Re: Called the doctor - Soup

[Guest guest]

In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

where potassium is and begin limiting it?

I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

Hugs,

Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing well.

[Guest guest]

Here's the Nat'l Kidney Foundation page on potassium...

http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=103

For food labels...

http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=148

A dining out guide...

http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=42

You can visit their site www.kidney.org and search for potassium. They have

cookbooks, etc. there too.

saturn70006@... wrote:

In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

where potassium is and begin limiting it?

I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

Hugs,

Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing well.

[Guest guest]

Lori

You should ask your daughter's nephrologist if you need to limit her

potassium intake. If you're told you don't need to limit it, don't worry

about it. It means it's not a problem in her particular case. It's easy to

take these things way too far and too seriously when there's no need to do

so. Just because people like me on dialysis or people with advanced kidney

failure can't eat a bowl of tomato soup or eat a banana doesn't mean your

daughter shouldn't.

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

>

> When these soups get here won't it tell me about the potasumm?

>

> Lori

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It would be harmful to limit potassium when you don't have to. Potassium is

kept by the body within certain limits. Too low is almost as bad as too

high. Your nephrologist's will let you know if you have to limit potassium.

That's why they order blood work periodically. Otherwise, don't worry about

it, and if you are worried, ask your nephrologist. Unless a person does not

have enough kidney function to regulate potassium, there is NO advantage to

limiting potassium. It doesn't help the kidneys one bit.

BUT DON'T GO BY ME. ASK YOUR NEPHROLOGIST. I'm not shouting here, just

emphasizing the importance of this :-)

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

>

> In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

> where potassium is and begin limiting it?

>

> I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

>

> Hugs,

> Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing

well.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just to reiterate, Angel please do not limit potassium unless your son's Neph

asks you to.

You are doing a great job with his sodium already :-)

In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:17:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

saturn70006@... writes:

> In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

> where potassium is and begin limiting it?

>

> I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

>

> Hugs,

> Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing well.

[Guest guest]

Oh I am right there with you ! Oh to indulge in home grown

tomatoes...yummy!!!

I have real problems with my potassium and also have been called to report to

the ER. My worst was a 7.0 result. That was once. I have been 6.5 many many

times, and like you I am very diligent on the potassium intake, but do enjoy

a bite of some forbidden fruits every now and then.

Being able to eat all the high potassium foods will be the best part of a

transplant I think!

In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:27:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sarahandderek@... writes:

> Oh

> what I would give to eat fresh tomatoes, plates of them drizzled with good

> olive oil,

> and then whole cantalopes, followed up by dried white apricots. So I envy

> those that

> have no problems with their potassium. I'm happy to hear that post tx you're

> normal,

> eat some cantalope for me will ya?

>

> (Oh, as a side note, I'm not into refusing myself tastes of things, I will

> have a bite now

> and then of forbidden fruits, but gone are the days of indulgence)

>

> peace,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh I am right there with you ! Oh to indulge in home grown

tomatoes...yummy!!!

I have real problems with my potassium and also have been called to report to

the ER. My worst was a 7.0 result. That was once. I have been 6.5 many many

times, and like you I am very diligent on the potassium intake, but do enjoy

a bite of some forbidden fruits every now and then.

Being able to eat all the high potassium foods will be the best part of a

transplant I think!

In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:27:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sarahandderek@... writes:

> Oh

> what I would give to eat fresh tomatoes, plates of them drizzled with good

> olive oil,

> and then whole cantalopes, followed up by dried white apricots. So I envy

> those that

> have no problems with their potassium. I'm happy to hear that post tx you're

> normal,

> eat some cantalope for me will ya?

>

> (Oh, as a side note, I'm not into refusing myself tastes of things, I will

> have a bite now

> and then of forbidden fruits, but gone are the days of indulgence)

>

> peace,

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You are gooooood.

Cy

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> Here's the Nat'l Kidney Foundation page on potassium...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=103

>

> For food labels...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=148

>

> A dining out guide...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=42

>

> You can visit their site www.kidney.org and search for potassium. They

have cookbooks, etc. there too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> saturn70006@... wrote:

>

> In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

> where potassium is and begin limiting it?

>

> I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

>

> Hugs,

> Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing

well.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You are gooooood.

Cy

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> Here's the Nat'l Kidney Foundation page on potassium...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=103

>

> For food labels...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=148

>

> A dining out guide...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=42

>

> You can visit their site www.kidney.org and search for potassium. They

have cookbooks, etc. there too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> saturn70006@... wrote:

>

> In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

> where potassium is and begin limiting it?

>

> I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

>

> Hugs,

> Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing

well.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You are gooooood.

Cy

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> Here's the Nat'l Kidney Foundation page on potassium...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=103

>

> For food labels...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=148

>

> A dining out guide...

>

> http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=42

>

> You can visit their site www.kidney.org and search for potassium. They

have cookbooks, etc. there too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> saturn70006@... wrote:

>

> In my ten yr. old sons case, would it help or harm if I started noticing

> where potassium is and begin limiting it?

>

> I get the feeling potassium is like sodium....its everywhere...sigh

>

> Hugs,

> Angel....who's hoping everyone is not only hanging in there, but doing

well.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I can relate to being K crazy. Last year after a routine set of labs I was

called by a doc

in the Kaiser ER telling me to go to the ER right away, (my K was 6.4) that I

might

need to take some of the icky stuff if my potassium was still too high. I knew

it was

on the high side normally but that day certainly got my attention. The crappy

part is I

was already a stickler about it, so then I just went nuts. I've mellowed, I'm

better at

keeping track and at knowing what's what, that worse thing now is jealousy!!! Oh

what I would give to eat fresh tomatoes, plates of them drizzled with good olive

oil,

and then whole cantalopes, followed up by dried white apricots. So I envy those

that

have no problems with their potassium. I'm happy to hear that post tx you're

normal,

eat some cantalope for me will ya?

(Oh, as a side note, I'm not into refusing myself tastes of things, I will have

a bite now

and then of forbidden fruits, but gone are the days of indulgence)

peace,

> Well, I gues that I can be a little " K Crazy " ....

>

> I would certainly agree that you should always consult your doctors before

making

any changes to your diet. In my case, potassium was my big issue - just a little

bit too

much and my level would go nuts. Now, post-tx, I am perfectly normal, but I

still tend

to watch that one the most.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I can relate to being K crazy. Last year after a routine set of labs I was

called by a doc

in the Kaiser ER telling me to go to the ER right away, (my K was 6.4) that I

might

need to take some of the icky stuff if my potassium was still too high. I knew

it was

on the high side normally but that day certainly got my attention. The crappy

part is I

was already a stickler about it, so then I just went nuts. I've mellowed, I'm

better at

keeping track and at knowing what's what, that worse thing now is jealousy!!! Oh

what I would give to eat fresh tomatoes, plates of them drizzled with good olive

oil,

and then whole cantalopes, followed up by dried white apricots. So I envy those

that

have no problems with their potassium. I'm happy to hear that post tx you're

normal,

eat some cantalope for me will ya?

(Oh, as a side note, I'm not into refusing myself tastes of things, I will have

a bite now

and then of forbidden fruits, but gone are the days of indulgence)

peace,

> Well, I gues that I can be a little " K Crazy " ....

>

> I would certainly agree that you should always consult your doctors before

making

any changes to your diet. In my case, potassium was my big issue - just a little

bit too

much and my level would go nuts. Now, post-tx, I am perfectly normal, but I

still tend

to watch that one the most.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I can relate to being K crazy. Last year after a routine set of labs I was

called by a doc

in the Kaiser ER telling me to go to the ER right away, (my K was 6.4) that I

might

need to take some of the icky stuff if my potassium was still too high. I knew

it was

on the high side normally but that day certainly got my attention. The crappy

part is I

was already a stickler about it, so then I just went nuts. I've mellowed, I'm

better at

keeping track and at knowing what's what, that worse thing now is jealousy!!! Oh

what I would give to eat fresh tomatoes, plates of them drizzled with good olive

oil,

and then whole cantalopes, followed up by dried white apricots. So I envy those

that

have no problems with their potassium. I'm happy to hear that post tx you're

normal,

eat some cantalope for me will ya?

(Oh, as a side note, I'm not into refusing myself tastes of things, I will have

a bite now

and then of forbidden fruits, but gone are the days of indulgence)

peace,

> Well, I gues that I can be a little " K Crazy " ....

>

> I would certainly agree that you should always consult your doctors before

making

any changes to your diet. In my case, potassium was my big issue - just a little

bit too

much and my level would go nuts. Now, post-tx, I am perfectly normal, but I

still tend

to watch that one the most.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Potassium is one of those blood tests that are very prone to

falsely-elevated results. It's very easy to mishandle the blood during the

blood draw and afterwards, and that can make the result way higher than it

really is. My doctor once did the blood draw himself in his office and when

he got the results from the lab, it was 9!. He didn't even bother to call

me, because he knew that was impossible.

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> Boy , can I relate to that. I had the misfortune of getting labs done

a day or two after Halloween one year. I had a couple of those mini-Hershey

bars (ok, a few), and my K went nuts! I had not had a full size Chocolate

Bar before my tx for like 5 or 6 years.

>

> I will have that tomato and canteloupe for you (although both crops this

year stink)....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Potassium is one of those blood tests that are very prone to

falsely-elevated results. It's very easy to mishandle the blood during the

blood draw and afterwards, and that can make the result way higher than it

really is. My doctor once did the blood draw himself in his office and when

he got the results from the lab, it was 9!. He didn't even bother to call

me, because he knew that was impossible.

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> Boy , can I relate to that. I had the misfortune of getting labs done

a day or two after Halloween one year. I had a couple of those mini-Hershey

bars (ok, a few), and my K went nuts! I had not had a full size Chocolate

Bar before my tx for like 5 or 6 years.

>

> I will have that tomato and canteloupe for you (although both crops this

year stink)....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pierre,

Yes the doc said it was possibly a bad draw even though the lab had checked to

see if the

cells had exploded or whatever it is they do with a bad draw. I read at about

5.6 when

retesed the day after so I didn't need to drink the icky stuff. My son was only

two and half

weeks old at the time, I'd had zero sleep and little to eat during those two and

a half

weeks, so the doc thought these things having caused a spike was as likely as a

false

reading.

It just infuriates me all the more that K isn't required to be on US food

labels. Boy howdy,

do I wish all my potassium readings were falsly elevated, I have been in the 5.4

to 5.7

range for a couple of years now.

peace,

> Potassium is one of those blood tests that are very prone to

> falsely-elevated results. It's very easy to mishandle the blood during the

> blood draw and afterwards, and that can make the result way higher than it

> really is. My doctor once did the blood draw himself in his office and when

> he got the results from the lab, it was 9!. He didn't even bother to call

> me, because he knew that was impossible.

>

> Pierre

>

> Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

>

> >

> > Boy , can I relate to that. I had the misfortune of getting labs done

> a day or two after Halloween one year. I had a couple of those mini-Hershey

> bars (ok, a few), and my K went nuts! I had not had a full size Chocolate

> Bar before my tx for like 5 or 6 years.

> >

> > I will have that tomato and canteloupe for you (although both crops this

> year stink)....

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Pierre,

Yes the doc said it was possibly a bad draw even though the lab had checked to

see if the

cells had exploded or whatever it is they do with a bad draw. I read at about

5.6 when

retesed the day after so I didn't need to drink the icky stuff. My son was only

two and half

weeks old at the time, I'd had zero sleep and little to eat during those two and

a half

weeks, so the doc thought these things having caused a spike was as likely as a

false

reading.

It just infuriates me all the more that K isn't required to be on US food

labels. Boy howdy,

do I wish all my potassium readings were falsly elevated, I have been in the 5.4

to 5.7

range for a couple of years now.

peace,

> Potassium is one of those blood tests that are very prone to

> falsely-elevated results. It's very easy to mishandle the blood during the

> blood draw and afterwards, and that can make the result way higher than it

> really is. My doctor once did the blood draw himself in his office and when

> he got the results from the lab, it was 9!. He didn't even bother to call

> me, because he knew that was impossible.

>

> Pierre

>

> Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

>

> >

> > Boy , can I relate to that. I had the misfortune of getting labs done

> a day or two after Halloween one year. I had a couple of those mini-Hershey

> bars (ok, a few), and my K went nuts! I had not had a full size Chocolate

> Bar before my tx for like 5 or 6 years.

> >

> > I will have that tomato and canteloupe for you (although both crops this

> year stink)....

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Pierre,

Yes the doc said it was possibly a bad draw even though the lab had checked to

see if the

cells had exploded or whatever it is they do with a bad draw. I read at about

5.6 when

retesed the day after so I didn't need to drink the icky stuff. My son was only

two and half

weeks old at the time, I'd had zero sleep and little to eat during those two and

a half

weeks, so the doc thought these things having caused a spike was as likely as a

false

reading.

It just infuriates me all the more that K isn't required to be on US food

labels. Boy howdy,

do I wish all my potassium readings were falsly elevated, I have been in the 5.4

to 5.7

range for a couple of years now.

peace,

> Potassium is one of those blood tests that are very prone to

> falsely-elevated results. It's very easy to mishandle the blood during the

> blood draw and afterwards, and that can make the result way higher than it

> really is. My doctor once did the blood draw himself in his office and when

> he got the results from the lab, it was 9!. He didn't even bother to call

> me, because he knew that was impossible.

>

> Pierre

>

> Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

>

> >

> > Boy , can I relate to that. I had the misfortune of getting labs done

> a day or two after Halloween one year. I had a couple of those mini-Hershey

> bars (ok, a few), and my K went nuts! I had not had a full size Chocolate

> Bar before my tx for like 5 or 6 years.

> >

> > I will have that tomato and canteloupe for you (although both crops this

> year stink)....

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:12:29 PM Central Standard Time,

garymattcohen@... writes:

Just to reiterate, Angel please do not limit potassium unless your son's

Neph

> asks you to.

>

> You are doing a great job with his sodium already :-)

>

>

Thanks, !

Angel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:12:29 PM Central Standard Time,

garymattcohen@... writes:

Just to reiterate, Angel please do not limit potassium unless your son's

Neph

> asks you to.

>

> You are doing a great job with his sodium already :-)

>

>

Thanks, !

Angel

[Guest guest]

You mean not everybody has the periodic table memorized????

I was a chem minor in college and remember well those fun chem labs, but I

can't recall anyone setting themselves on fire. Guess our labs were not as

exciting as you guys with fires and chlorine gas clouds ;-)

In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:19:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,

garymattcohen@... writes:

> No Cy, it was meant to be funny. Wow, my wife should realize how lucky she

> is - after all how many husbands make jokes using the Periodic Table? On

> second thought, maybe that can be our little secret...

>

[Guest guest]

The last guy I remember who made a joke involving the Periodic Table of the

Elements was my desk partner for a chemistry experiment in grade 12 high

school. Then he accidentally leaned over too close to the bunsen burner and

his shirt caught fire... a scene which is indelibly engraved in my memory

:-)

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> No Cy, it was meant to be funny. Wow, my wife should realize how lucky she

is - after all how many husbands make jokes using the Periodic Table? On

second thought, maybe that can be our little secret...

>

> So I moved my computer, I started checking e-mails, and then my hard drive

froze. So I quite only part way through last night (had to watch " Desperate

Housewives " to see what Eva Longoria (sp?) was wearing or not wearing). Now

I am fairly technically savvy, so I have a few things to try first (like

opening it up and checkiing connections), but last night I used the ol'tried

and true method - I smacked it.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pierre:

That reminds me of my freshman chem lab. My bench partner and I decided

that instead of reading the lab the night before, that we should have a couple

of beers and go to the movies. Well, doing the lab on the fly (his reading, my

mixing) we were moving around the lab grabbing stuff. He told me (reading as we

went) to mix the two beakers in my hands. So I did that. No sooner had I done

that then he says " Caution: Mixing will create chlorine gas. Mix only under a

hood. " So here we are, running through the lab trying to get under a hood,

releasing chlorine gas. Well, let's just say that we were not the teaher's pets

after that...

Pierre Lachaine wrote:

The last guy I remember who made a joke involving the Periodic Table of the

Elements was my desk partner for a chemistry experiment in grade 12 high

school. Then he accidentally leaned over too close to the bunsen burner and

his shirt caught fire... a scene which is indelibly engraved in my memory

:-)

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> No Cy, it was meant to be funny. Wow, my wife should realize how lucky she

is - after all how many husbands make jokes using the Periodic Table? On

second thought, maybe that can be our little secret...

>

> So I moved my computer, I started checking e-mails, and then my hard drive

froze. So I quite only part way through last night (had to watch " Desperate

Housewives " to see what Eva Longoria (sp?) was wearing or not wearing). Now

I am fairly technically savvy, so I have a few things to try first (like

opening it up and checkiing connections), but last night I used the ol'tried

and true method - I smacked it.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You got to go to the exciting class. Amazing what you can do with that chapter

on exothermic reactions and clothing items!

Reminds me of the time I came home from organic lab with a sealed cannister of

benzene, inadvertently left it on the piano at my parents house and took off for

six months. Apparently it had them so terrified that they spoke in lowered

voices whenever they were in the room for fear it would detonate. Boy, did I

ever hear about that one!

Cy

Lachaine wrote:

The last guy I remember who made a joke involving the Periodic Table of the

Elements was my desk partner for a chemistry experiment in grade 12 high

school. Then he accidentally leaned over too close to the bunsen burner and

his shirt caught fire... a scene which is indelibly engraved in my memory

:-)

Pierre

Re: Called the doctor - Soup

>

> No Cy, it was meant to be funny. Wow, my wife should realize how lucky she

is - after all how many husbands make jokes using the Periodic Table? On

second thought, maybe that can be our little secret...

>

> So I moved my computer, I started checking e-mails, and then my hard drive

froze. So I quite only part way through last night (had to watch " Desperate

Housewives " to see what Eva Longoria (sp?) was wearing or not wearing). Now

I am fairly technically savvy, so I have a few things to try first (like

opening it up and checkiing connections), but last night I used the ol'tried

and true method - I smacked it.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I think you nailed that one on the head Cy :-)

In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:51:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

cyashleywebb@... writes:

,

I think they have those stories BECAUSE they weren't chem majors. I'm sure

that you and I have much better ones. I know most of mine are not

repeatable here!

Cy