RE: OK, I've been lurking and going to take the plunge!

[Guest guest]

Hi Charlene,

I am new too, but one of my mantras is not to over analyze this plan and

JUST DO IT!! I just prepared my Winning Outcomes statement and I told

myself to just go with the flow. I record EVERYTHING I eat online - no

matter what it is. I told myself that I selected this plan and I am

going to do this plan and that is that. I tend to over analyze, over

read something and I just want to take it easy. I want to have all

kinds of food options available to me and eat within my point range each

day.

FOR ME - KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid. SO many people have had great

results with this plan and I figure I just might as well be one of them

too!!

Good Luck, Robbie

OK, I've been lurking and going to

take the plunge!

Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing to

deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you could

say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband is

thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

I don't know where to start, but thought someone might have some

thoughts to help me out. I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years ago and

lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

couldn't lose any more try as I might. I obviously quit as it was

really expensive to keep going month after month and not lose anything.

I tried a different program last year for several months and really

didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did follow

the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

I signed up for WW online about a month ago. I read the materials, find

recipes to try, and think about it and think about it. I even try to

keep my points and keep track for days here and there. Somehow, I think

I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem to

just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't believe

it will even happen any more.

It probably sounds weird, but I had done WW a really long time ago when

they used to have a whole different way of doing things, they'd tell you

you get a certain number of proteins, breads, fruits, veggies, etc.

Somehow, it's hard to get into this points thing for me. Guess it's

just a whole different way of thinking about it.

I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds like it

was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

Thanks for being there and for listening!

Aloha,

Charlene

-----O

[Guest guest]

YUP, it's often the BLTs (Bites, Licks and Tastes) that do people in. We

often forget about the grocery store samples or tasting the food as we cook

to make sure it's just right. Or sneaking that piece of candy from the

candy jar on the co-worker's desk.

Gymmie in Cali

The difference between fit and fat is " I "

What you eat between Thanksgiving and Christmas isn't as important as what

you eat between Christmas and Thanksgiving

God loves us in good times and in bad times. But He is even more real in

our lives when we are having tough times. Coach Joe Gibbs

-- RE: OK, I've been lurking and going to

take the plunge!

I record EVERYTHING I eat online - no

matter what it is.

[Guest guest]

Welcome Charlene )!!!!!!!!!

Gymmie in Cali

HBHYGI

There are no friends at 200 MPH

#3 gone, but not forgotten

#45 & #42 gone too young, too soon

Go #62

Go #15

Go #8

God loves us in good times and in bad times. But He is even more real in

our lives when we are having tough times. Coach Joe Gibbs

-- OK, I've been lurking and going to take

the plunge!

My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you could

say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband is

thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

[Guest guest]

Welcome Charlene,

I can remember trying everything out there to lose weight too, I

would just go from one diet to another, I would lose, but I could not

keep it off, without following some plan. Of course I always wanted

the quick fix ones. But they never do much to keep it off, if they

are denying some foods. I have stuck with WW since Oct of 2002. Mind

you I lost very slow, but it has had the staying power.

You say you tried WW way back, I think you will like this new plan.

It really is laid out quite simple. I think the hardest part of

having to lose a lot of weight is we often think of the long term

time frame, and we know right away that it is not going to happen

overnight, that it will take months.. but just think of how fast the

months fly by anyway. I always thought of mine as 10 pounds at a

time. That way I could see the results faster. Some may even do 5

pounds at a time.

Just remember its all about YOU!. Be realistic, make small changes at

a time including your level of activity. This way you wont't feel so

overwhelmed all of a sudden. I can surely feel what you mean when you

say " you just don't believe it's going to happen " It's the *if I

could just get started syndrome* as I call it. If you fall and have

one bad day, you just start right over again, do not wait. I have had

my share of these bad times.. and conquered most pretty quick

compared to my past times, the main thing was sticking with it..I

have had some post here where I was just doing real awful at times,

and the group is so good at getting one to pick up their slack..

You already signed up with WW, so now let us watch you go girl!!!

Now just picture yourself beside that skinny hubby of yours and

looking pretty skinny yourself!! It can happen and will happen, just

give yourself time. Remember you will be going down in weight and not

up...just forget about the time frame ...Yeah this is something I had

to learn also.. Keep posting, and let us all know how you do...

~~~Kallie~

-------------------------------------------------------------------

In Serious-Weight-Watchers , " Charlene Ota "

<cota@h...> wrote:

> Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

> there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing to

> deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

>

> My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you

could

> say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband

is

> thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

>

> I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years ago and

> lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

> couldn't lose any more try as I might. > I tried a different

program last year for several months and really

> didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did

follow

> the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

>

> I signed up for WW online about a month ago. Somehow, I think

> I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem to

> just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

> weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't

believe

> it will even happen any more.

> I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds like

it

> was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

>

> Thanks for being there and for listening!

>

> Aloha,

> Charlene

>

> -----O

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I too am an all or nothing and it's bitten me in the face in the past. I got

to goal (with 57 lost) about 14 years ago before I had my kids and then

gained it back, floundering while having really young kids. Then I hit goal

in May 2001 with 87 lost and thought I had it down as to how to

maintain--WRONG, that all or nothing junk rose its head again and even

though I was at goal I still was hard on myself. So guess what?? I gained 70

back and now I'm doing try #3 with 45 lost so far. BUT, this time around I'm

really looking at that behavior and taking things easier (but seriously too

of course)--I'm really working it so I can bounce right back if I have an

off day and am trying not to think that I'll have ONLY good days.

So far it's working and even helping me to endure a sort of plateua right

now. I tell myself that I don't want to gain anything back at all and even

if I stay the same for awhile I've really not been unsuccessful. My clothes

fit and they fit last week and last month and all that--something that

didn't always happen for me when I'd get discourage.

Hang in there and think of it as a commitment and not a goal. I looked at it

like that last week and sort of awed myself with the power of what it was, a

whole life commitment to good health and looking good and fit. I made a

commitment to both my marriage and my kids and I wouldn't walk away from

them if anything went wrong would I?? No, I said, so why would I walk away

from my weight program??

Good luck okay?? Take deep breaths and be happy for the successes today and

vow to keep them instead of letting some bad days take them away!!!!!!!

RE: OK, I've been lurking and going

to take the plunge!

Robbie, thanks for your post. I too over analyze things. It is either all

or nothing with me and when I do something just not right I feel like I

failed and I stop. Instead of just doing it, I get all hot and heavy into

it (only eating certain foods, giving myself horrible restrictions) and bam

I hit the brick wall. Right now I am just taking it day by day and

hopefully I will talk myself out of over analyzing things.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I too am an all or nothing and it's bitten me in the face in the past. I got

to goal (with 57 lost) about 14 years ago before I had my kids and then

gained it back, floundering while having really young kids. Then I hit goal

in May 2001 with 87 lost and thought I had it down as to how to

maintain--WRONG, that all or nothing junk rose its head again and even

though I was at goal I still was hard on myself. So guess what?? I gained 70

back and now I'm doing try #3 with 45 lost so far. BUT, this time around I'm

really looking at that behavior and taking things easier (but seriously too

of course)--I'm really working it so I can bounce right back if I have an

off day and am trying not to think that I'll have ONLY good days.

So far it's working and even helping me to endure a sort of plateua right

now. I tell myself that I don't want to gain anything back at all and even

if I stay the same for awhile I've really not been unsuccessful. My clothes

fit and they fit last week and last month and all that--something that

didn't always happen for me when I'd get discourage.

Hang in there and think of it as a commitment and not a goal. I looked at it

like that last week and sort of awed myself with the power of what it was, a

whole life commitment to good health and looking good and fit. I made a

commitment to both my marriage and my kids and I wouldn't walk away from

them if anything went wrong would I?? No, I said, so why would I walk away

from my weight program??

Good luck okay?? Take deep breaths and be happy for the successes today and

vow to keep them instead of letting some bad days take them away!!!!!!!

RE: OK, I've been lurking and going

to take the plunge!

Robbie, thanks for your post. I too over analyze things. It is either all

or nothing with me and when I do something just not right I feel like I

failed and I stop. Instead of just doing it, I get all hot and heavy into

it (only eating certain foods, giving myself horrible restrictions) and bam

I hit the brick wall. Right now I am just taking it day by day and

hopefully I will talk myself out of over analyzing things.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I too am an all or nothing and it's bitten me in the face in the past. I got

to goal (with 57 lost) about 14 years ago before I had my kids and then

gained it back, floundering while having really young kids. Then I hit goal

in May 2001 with 87 lost and thought I had it down as to how to

maintain--WRONG, that all or nothing junk rose its head again and even

though I was at goal I still was hard on myself. So guess what?? I gained 70

back and now I'm doing try #3 with 45 lost so far. BUT, this time around I'm

really looking at that behavior and taking things easier (but seriously too

of course)--I'm really working it so I can bounce right back if I have an

off day and am trying not to think that I'll have ONLY good days.

So far it's working and even helping me to endure a sort of plateua right

now. I tell myself that I don't want to gain anything back at all and even

if I stay the same for awhile I've really not been unsuccessful. My clothes

fit and they fit last week and last month and all that--something that

didn't always happen for me when I'd get discourage.

Hang in there and think of it as a commitment and not a goal. I looked at it

like that last week and sort of awed myself with the power of what it was, a

whole life commitment to good health and looking good and fit. I made a

commitment to both my marriage and my kids and I wouldn't walk away from

them if anything went wrong would I?? No, I said, so why would I walk away

from my weight program??

Good luck okay?? Take deep breaths and be happy for the successes today and

vow to keep them instead of letting some bad days take them away!!!!!!!

RE: OK, I've been lurking and going

to take the plunge!

Robbie, thanks for your post. I too over analyze things. It is either all

or nothing with me and when I do something just not right I feel like I

failed and I stop. Instead of just doing it, I get all hot and heavy into

it (only eating certain foods, giving myself horrible restrictions) and bam

I hit the brick wall. Right now I am just taking it day by day and

hopefully I will talk myself out of over analyzing things.

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Charlene! It's so good to have you!

in OKC <><

238/197.4/194

> Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

> there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing

to

> deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

>

> My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you

could

> say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my

husband is

> thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

>

> I don't know where to start, but thought someone might have some

> thoughts to help me out. I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years

ago and

> lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

> couldn't lose any more try as I might. I obviously quit as it was

> really expensive to keep going month after month and not lose

anything.

> I tried a different program last year for several months and really

> didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did

follow

> the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

>

> I signed up for WW online about a month ago. I read the

materials, find

> recipes to try, and think about it and think about it. I even try

to

> keep my points and keep track for days here and there. Somehow, I

think

> I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem

to

> just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

> weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't

believe

> it will even happen any more.

>

> It probably sounds weird, but I had done WW a really long time ago

when

> they used to have a whole different way of doing things, they'd

tell you

> you get a certain number of proteins, breads, fruits, veggies, etc.

> Somehow, it's hard to get into this points thing for me. Guess

it's

> just a whole different way of thinking about it.

>

> I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds

like it

> was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

>

> Thanks for being there and for listening!

>

> Aloha,

> Charlene

>

> -----O

[Guest guest]

I'm an all or nothing type myself, but the changes I've made in my life

are helping me to be more flexible. I'm trying to redefine " all " to mean

" You give it your all to get to your goal or stay at your goal. " That

means if I flounder, I get up and get going again and call that " giving

it my all. " That doesn't mean I'm completely perfect. BUT it also

doesn't mean I allow myself to make excuses or play the " just this once "

or " today is a special occasion " game. Nope. No way. This is for life

and forever and if I'm dedicated I am not going to INTENTIONALLY

sabotage myself. However if I slip up, I move forward...never backwards.

I think the only way you can move backwards is to quit.

> RE: OK, I've been lurking

> and going to take the plunge!

>

>

> Robbie, thanks for your post. I too over analyze things. It

> is either all or nothing with me and when I do something just

> not right I feel like I failed and I stop. Instead of just

> doing it, I get all hot and heavy into it (only eating

> certain foods, giving myself horrible restrictions) and bam I

> hit the brick wall. Right now I am just taking it day by day

> and hopefully I will talk myself out of over analyzing things.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm an all or nothing type myself, but the changes I've made in my life

are helping me to be more flexible. I'm trying to redefine " all " to mean

" You give it your all to get to your goal or stay at your goal. " That

means if I flounder, I get up and get going again and call that " giving

it my all. " That doesn't mean I'm completely perfect. BUT it also

doesn't mean I allow myself to make excuses or play the " just this once "

or " today is a special occasion " game. Nope. No way. This is for life

and forever and if I'm dedicated I am not going to INTENTIONALLY

sabotage myself. However if I slip up, I move forward...never backwards.

I think the only way you can move backwards is to quit.

> RE: OK, I've been lurking

> and going to take the plunge!

>

>

> Robbie, thanks for your post. I too over analyze things. It

> is either all or nothing with me and when I do something just

> not right I feel like I failed and I stop. Instead of just

> doing it, I get all hot and heavy into it (only eating

> certain foods, giving myself horrible restrictions) and bam I

> hit the brick wall. Right now I am just taking it day by day

> and hopefully I will talk myself out of over analyzing things.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm an all or nothing type myself, but the changes I've made in my life

are helping me to be more flexible. I'm trying to redefine " all " to mean

" You give it your all to get to your goal or stay at your goal. " That

means if I flounder, I get up and get going again and call that " giving

it my all. " That doesn't mean I'm completely perfect. BUT it also

doesn't mean I allow myself to make excuses or play the " just this once "

or " today is a special occasion " game. Nope. No way. This is for life

and forever and if I'm dedicated I am not going to INTENTIONALLY

sabotage myself. However if I slip up, I move forward...never backwards.

I think the only way you can move backwards is to quit.

> RE: OK, I've been lurking

> and going to take the plunge!

>

>

> Robbie, thanks for your post. I too over analyze things. It

> is either all or nothing with me and when I do something just

> not right I feel like I failed and I stop. Instead of just

> doing it, I get all hot and heavy into it (only eating

> certain foods, giving myself horrible restrictions) and bam I

> hit the brick wall. Right now I am just taking it day by day

> and hopefully I will talk myself out of over analyzing things.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Charlene,

Welcome to the group sweets! I think first off you have to get to a place

that you believe that you are worth doing this for yourself and that you

will be successful at becoming a healthy person. Tell yourself that enough

until you believe it and it will just become who you are. (I am working on

this one)

One way to look at this program being so different and new to you is that

you have done it other ways and while it worked it wasn't something that

you could stick with. You know the saying " If you always do what you have

always done, you will get what you always got " This is something new for

you and you will have new results!

For me the thing that is making this work is you can babystep your way

into the lifestyle change. You don't have to immediately overhaul your

whole entire way of eating to lose weight. You don't all of sudden have to

start cooking if you never did before or totally stop eating out to stick

the program. There are some habits that you will have to tweek but you

don't have to overhaul your life immediately. You can gradually get to a

place where all of a sudden your a just living a new healthy lifestyle that

fits your life and that you can keep up forever. I did Craig which

is similar to Nutrisystem and it worked wonderfully while I was working the

program but from the moment that I first stepped out of that office I had

to immediately overhaul my whole entire life. I wasn't able to keep that

up and for me when it started to get in the way of the way I wanted to live

my life. I was literally missing out on things because I had to have all

this packaged food with me on days I would be out and couldn't be

spontaneous with my weekends. I didn't learn how to eat and be healthy in

the real world. I just learned how to do it under perfect

circumstances. For me WW is teaching me how to still do all the stuff that

I love and still take care of myself. Making me a lot more fun to be around.

If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

Smiles,

Ang

At 03:04 PM 3/7/2004 -1000, Charlene Ota wrote:

> Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

>there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing to

>deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

>

>My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you could

>say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband is

>thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

>

>I don't know where to start, but thought someone might have some

>thoughts to help me out. I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years ago and

>lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

>couldn't lose any more try as I might. I obviously quit as it was

>really expensive to keep going month after month and not lose anything.

>I tried a different program last year for several months and really

>didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did follow

>the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

>

>I signed up for WW online about a month ago. I read the materials, find

>recipes to try, and think about it and think about it. I even try to

>keep my points and keep track for days here and there. Somehow, I think

>I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem to

>just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

>weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't believe

>it will even happen any more.

>

>It probably sounds weird, but I had done WW a really long time ago when

>they used to have a whole different way of doing things, they'd tell you

>you get a certain number of proteins, breads, fruits, veggies, etc.

>Somehow, it's hard to get into this points thing for me. Guess it's

>just a whole different way of thinking about it.

>

>I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds like it

>was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

>

>Thanks for being there and for listening!

>

>Aloha,

>Charlene

>

>-----O

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tory and all.

I rejoined this list a few months ago but never participated , but after

reading your response yesterday Tory it really got me thinking. I have been

going to WW for 1 /12 years and I was doing great until last fall. I started to

slip and never really got out of it. I am going backwards and need to stop. I

have even been making excuses not to go to my meetings because I was always

going up instead of down. Anyway the reason I'm writing is because of something

Tory said in a post yesterday.

" However if I slip up, I move forward...never backwards. I think the only way

you can move backwards is to quit. "

I read this before going to work this morning and that's all I could think of

all day. It really hit home to me, it's like I have quit even though I'm still

attending meetings. I'm slipping right back into my old ways little by little

and have now gained back 20# of the 53# I had lost. I can't even fit into the

jeans that I was wearing last summer anymore. I am getting so disgusted with my

self and I want to end it before I regain it all. I haven't journaled in a long

time and am not really drinking al the water I should be. I'm not even paying

attention to my points not even in my heard. When I was losing the weight I

jourmaled everything that went into my mouth. After doing a lot of thinking

today I've decided that today is a new day and am going to treat it like it was

my fist day on program. I have journaled everything and now have almost 80 oz of

water in for the day.

I'm so sorry that this is so long but I really needed to write it. I was like a

break through from one litle comment. Thanks Tory !!!

Theresa

I'm an all or nothing type myself, but the changes I've made in my life

are helping me to be more flexible. I'm trying to redefine " all " to mean

" You give it your all to get to your goal or stay at your goal. " That

means if I flounder, I get up and get going again and call that " giving

it my all. " That doesn't mean I'm completely perfect. BUT it also

doesn't mean I allow myself to make excuses or play the " just this once "

or " today is a special occasion " game. Nope. No way. This is for life

and forever and if I'm dedicated I am not going to INTENTIONALLY

sabotage myself. However if I slip up, I move forward...never backwards.

I think the only way you can move backwards is to quit.

[Guest guest]

,

This is a GREAT POST and maybe you should send this out every week.

This is finally the place I have come - I need to LOVE MYSELF ENOUGH to

do this. This is not punishment!!

I did Craig too a long time ago and yes I had great results, but I

still look at frozen meals like punishment!! I was hungry for two

months on their plan.

I am only in my first week, but I know deep down I will be successful

following ww - I JUST KNOW IT! I know there will be bad weeks, but I am

ready to go through it. I am doing this for ME because I think I

finally love myself to do it. Gee, I am 42 years old . . took me long

enough!

Thanks again, Robbie

Re: OK, I've been lurking and going

to take the plunge!

Charlene,

Welcome to the group sweets! I think first off you have to get to a

place

that you believe that you are worth doing this for yourself and that you

will be successful at becoming a healthy person. Tell yourself that

enough

until you believe it and it will just become who you are. (I am working

on

this one)

One way to look at this program being so different and new to you is

that

you have done it other ways and while it worked it wasn't something that

you could stick with. You know the saying " If you always do what you

have

always done, you will get what you always got " This is something new

for

you and you will have new results!

For me the thing that is making this work is you can babystep your way

into the lifestyle change. You don't have to immediately overhaul your

whole entire way of eating to lose weight. You don't all of sudden have

to

start cooking if you never did before or totally stop eating out to

stick

the program. There are some habits that you will have to tweek but you

don't have to overhaul your life immediately. You can gradually get to

a

place where all of a sudden your a just living a new healthy lifestyle

that

fits your life and that you can keep up forever. I did Craig

which

is similar to Nutrisystem and it worked wonderfully while I was working

the

program but from the moment that I first stepped out of that office I

had

to immediately overhaul my whole entire life. I wasn't able to keep

that

up and for me when it started to get in the way of the way I wanted to

live

my life. I was literally missing out on things because I had to have

all

this packaged food with me on days I would be out and couldn't be

spontaneous with my weekends. I didn't learn how to eat and be healthy

in

the real world. I just learned how to do it under perfect

circumstances. For me WW is teaching me how to still do all the stuff

that

I love and still take care of myself. Making me a lot more fun to be

around.

If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

Smiles,

Ang

At 03:04 PM 3/7/2004 -1000, Charlene Ota wrote:

> Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

>there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing to

>deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

>

>My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you

could

>say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband is

>thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

>

>I don't know where to start, but thought someone might have some

>thoughts to help me out. I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years ago

and

>lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

>couldn't lose any more try as I might. I obviously quit as it was

>really expensive to keep going month after month and not lose anything.

>I tried a different program last year for several months and really

>didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did follow

>the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

>

>I signed up for WW online about a month ago. I read the materials,

find

>recipes to try, and think about it and think about it. I even try to

>keep my points and keep track for days here and there. Somehow, I

think

>I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem to

>just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

>weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't believe

>it will even happen any more.

>

>It probably sounds weird, but I had done WW a really long time ago when

>they used to have a whole different way of doing things, they'd tell

you

>you get a certain number of proteins, breads, fruits, veggies, etc.

>Somehow, it's hard to get into this points thing for me. Guess it's

>just a whole different way of thinking about it.

>

>I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds like it

>was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

>

>Thanks for being there and for listening!

>

>Aloha,

>Charlene

>

>-----O

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, one more thing. This week my first baby step is to follow the plan

and not worry about exercise and anything else. Not even what I eat as

long as it falls in my target point range. One step at a time . . . .

Hugs, Robbie

Re: OK, I've been lurking and going

to take the plunge!

Charlene,

Welcome to the group sweets! I think first off you have to get to a

place

that you believe that you are worth doing this for yourself and that you

will be successful at becoming a healthy person. Tell yourself that

enough

until you believe it and it will just become who you are. (I am working

on

this one)

One way to look at this program being so different and new to you is

that

you have done it other ways and while it worked it wasn't something that

you could stick with. You know the saying " If you always do what you

have

always done, you will get what you always got " This is something new

for

you and you will have new results!

For me the thing that is making this work is you can babystep your way

into the lifestyle change. You don't have to immediately overhaul your

whole entire way of eating to lose weight. You don't all of sudden have

to

start cooking if you never did before or totally stop eating out to

stick

the program. There are some habits that you will have to tweek but you

don't have to overhaul your life immediately. You can gradually get to

a

place where all of a sudden your a just living a new healthy lifestyle

that

fits your life and that you can keep up forever. I did Craig

which

is similar to Nutrisystem and it worked wonderfully while I was working

the

program but from the moment that I first stepped out of that office I

had

to immediately overhaul my whole entire life. I wasn't able to keep

that

up and for me when it started to get in the way of the way I wanted to

live

my life. I was literally missing out on things because I had to have

all

this packaged food with me on days I would be out and couldn't be

spontaneous with my weekends. I didn't learn how to eat and be healthy

in

the real world. I just learned how to do it under perfect

circumstances. For me WW is teaching me how to still do all the stuff

that

I love and still take care of myself. Making me a lot more fun to be

around.

If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

Smiles,

Ang

At 03:04 PM 3/7/2004 -1000, Charlene Ota wrote:

> Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

>there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing to

>deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

>

>My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you

could

>say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband is

>thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

>

>I don't know where to start, but thought someone might have some

>thoughts to help me out. I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years ago

and

>lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

>couldn't lose any more try as I might. I obviously quit as it was

>really expensive to keep going month after month and not lose anything.

>I tried a different program last year for several months and really

>didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did follow

>the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

>

>I signed up for WW online about a month ago. I read the materials,

find

>recipes to try, and think about it and think about it. I even try to

>keep my points and keep track for days here and there. Somehow, I

think

>I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem to

>just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

>weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't believe

>it will even happen any more.

>

>It probably sounds weird, but I had done WW a really long time ago when

>they used to have a whole different way of doing things, they'd tell

you

>you get a certain number of proteins, breads, fruits, veggies, etc.

>Somehow, it's hard to get into this points thing for me. Guess it's

>just a whole different way of thinking about it.

>

>I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds like it

>was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

>

>Thanks for being there and for listening!

>

>Aloha,

>Charlene

>

>-----O

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Believe me Robbie for me in my post I am telling myself these things as

much as you, LOL. I have all the knowledge that I need to make this work

it is just putting into action what I know and believing in myself. I

think once I have all the mental stuff worked out all the rest will be easy )

Ang

At 07:21 PM 3/8/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>,

>

>

>

>This is a GREAT POST and maybe you should send this out every week.

>This is finally the place I have come - I need to LOVE MYSELF ENOUGH to

>do this. This is not punishment!!

>

>

>

>I did Craig too a long time ago and yes I had great results, but I

>still look at frozen meals like punishment!! I was hungry for two

>months on their plan.

>

>

>

>I am only in my first week, but I know deep down I will be successful

>following ww - I JUST KNOW IT! I know there will be bad weeks, but I am

>ready to go through it. I am doing this for ME because I think I

>finally love myself to do it. Gee, I am 42 years old . . took me long

>enough!

>

>

>

>Thanks again, Robbie

>

>

>

> Re: OK, I've been lurking and going

>to take the plunge!

>

>

>

>Charlene,

>

>Welcome to the group sweets! I think first off you have to get to a

>place

>that you believe that you are worth doing this for yourself and that you

>

>will be successful at becoming a healthy person. Tell yourself that

>enough

>until you believe it and it will just become who you are. (I am working

>on

>this one)

>One way to look at this program being so different and new to you is

>that

>you have done it other ways and while it worked it wasn't something that

>

>you could stick with. You know the saying " If you always do what you

>have

>always done, you will get what you always got " This is something new

>for

>you and you will have new results!

> For me the thing that is making this work is you can babystep your way

>

>into the lifestyle change. You don't have to immediately overhaul your

>whole entire way of eating to lose weight. You don't all of sudden have

>to

>start cooking if you never did before or totally stop eating out to

>stick

>the program. There are some habits that you will have to tweek but you

>don't have to overhaul your life immediately. You can gradually get to

>a

>place where all of a sudden your a just living a new healthy lifestyle

>that

>fits your life and that you can keep up forever. I did Craig

>which

>is similar to Nutrisystem and it worked wonderfully while I was working

>the

>program but from the moment that I first stepped out of that office I

>had

>to immediately overhaul my whole entire life. I wasn't able to keep

>that

>up and for me when it started to get in the way of the way I wanted to

>live

>my life. I was literally missing out on things because I had to have

>all

>this packaged food with me on days I would be out and couldn't be

>spontaneous with my weekends. I didn't learn how to eat and be healthy

>in

>the real world. I just learned how to do it under perfect

>circumstances. For me WW is teaching me how to still do all the stuff

>that

>I love and still take care of myself. Making me a lot more fun to be

>around.

>If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

>

>Smiles,

>Ang

>

>

>At 03:04 PM 3/7/2004 -1000, Charlene Ota wrote:

> > Hi, Everyone! I've watched this list for a bit and see that

> >there are some great supporters out there, people who are willing to

> >deal with the issues and give some really helpful feedback.

> >

> >My name is Charlene, am married and have two cats that I guess you

>could

> >say are our kids. I've got about 100 pounds to lose and my husband is

> >thin as a rail! Not fair! (smile!)

> >

> >I don't know where to start, but thought someone might have some

> >thoughts to help me out. I was on Nutrisystem a couple of years ago

>and

> >lost a little over 30 pounds and then hit the wall and literally

> >couldn't lose any more try as I might. I obviously quit as it was

> >really expensive to keep going month after month and not lose anything.

> >I tried a different program last year for several months and really

> >didn't accomplish anything there either even though I really did follow

> >the program, just lost a few pounds and then nothing.

> >

> >I signed up for WW online about a month ago. I read the materials,

>find

> >recipes to try, and think about it and think about it. I even try to

> >keep my points and keep track for days here and there. Somehow, I

>think

> >I really don't believe it's going to happen or something. I seem to

> >just have no willpower and it's so weird because I want to get this

> >weight off shoot BAD ! I think part of it is like that I don't believe

> >it will even happen any more.

> >

> >It probably sounds weird, but I had done WW a really long time ago when

> >they used to have a whole different way of doing things, they'd tell

>you

> >you get a certain number of proteins, breads, fruits, veggies, etc.

> >Somehow, it's hard to get into this points thing for me. Guess it's

> >just a whole different way of thinking about it.

> >

> >I remember back in the early '80's when I got rid of 40 pounds like it

> >was nothing. Why does it have to be so terribly hard now!!!!

> >

> >Thanks for being there and for listening!

> >

> >Aloha,

> >Charlene

> >

> >-----O

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Robbie wrote:

> I am doing this for ME because I think I

> finally love myself to do it. Gee, I am 42 years old . . took me long

> enough!

It's so awesome you got it!!! Some people go through their whole lives

and never get it. I strongly believe that you can't hate yourself into

healthy changes. It all comes from love.

---

Debra

Down 51.6 pounds

9.8 pounds left of my Season Pass Challenge

[Guest guest]

Robbie wrote:

> I am doing this for ME because I think I

> finally love myself to do it. Gee, I am 42 years old . . took me long

> enough!

It's so awesome you got it!!! Some people go through their whole lives

and never get it. I strongly believe that you can't hate yourself into

healthy changes. It all comes from love.

---

Debra

Down 51.6 pounds

9.8 pounds left of my Season Pass Challenge

[Guest guest]

Amen Debra! I love that! " You can't hate yourself into healthy changes! "

And yet isn't that how most people start? " I hate myself like this. I'm

going to lose weight! "

It seems like it SHOULD be a good motivator, but ultimately it isn't.

Why? Because there comes a point when you just can't muster enough care

and respect for yourself to continue to do what's right for your body.

Or I've seen people get nearly to goal and think " Wow, I don't hate

myself any more... " and then the motivation is gone. If you're doing it

out of a sense of self respect and love, that motivation doesn't go.

It's like if you have a child, you love that child no matter what. Even

when he does the most bonehead thing in the world that has you seriously

considering locking him in a box and throwing away the key, you love

him. You let the mistakes go and you continue to feed, nurture,

encourage, and believe in him. Well give yourself the same respect and

you cannot go wrong!

> RE: OK, I've been lurking

> and going to take the plunge!

>

>

> Robbie wrote:

> > I am doing this for ME because I think I

> > finally love myself to do it. Gee, I am 42 years old . .

> took me long

> > enough!

>

> It's so awesome you got it!!! Some people go through their

> whole lives and never get it. I strongly believe that you

> can't hate yourself into healthy changes. It all comes from love.

>

> ---

> Debra

> Down 51.6 pounds

> 9.8 pounds left of my Season Pass Challenge

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tory,

I think that is what it was with me. I was 20# to my goal of 75# and that's when

I lost all my motivation. I loved the way I looked (then even tho I had more to

lose) and hearing all the great comments from people was great and then I just

stopped everything. I am doing it for myself and my health and not for anyone

else but it is still very hard at times.

Theresa

" Or I've seen people get nearly to goal and think " Wow, I don't hate

myself any more... " and then the motivation is gone. "

[Guest guest]

Sure it's hard Theresa...that's what makes it so wonderful when you

attain it!

When I start to make excuses (and trust me, I do) I remind myself that

most people won't do this. A typical person won't get up and exercise. A

typical person won't count their calories. A typical person won't give

up something high in calories for something high in nutrients. Then I

ask myself, " Do you want to be typical? "

No way!

So it is hard, but that's part of what makes it so rewarding!

> Re: OK, I've been lurking

> and going to take the plunge!

>

>

> Tory,

> I think that is what it was with me. I was 20# to my goal of

> 75# and that's when I lost all my motivation. I loved the

> way I looked (then even tho I had more to lose) and hearing

> all the great comments from people was great and then I just

> stopped everything. I am doing it for myself and my health

> and not for anyone else but it is still very hard at times.

> Theresa

>

> " Or I've seen people get nearly to goal and think " Wow, I

> don't hate myself any more... " and then the motivation is gone. "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I LOVE THIS POST - I am going to print this one. So thoughtful and insightful.

Thanks!! Robbie

>

>

> Date: 2004/03/10 Wed AM 12:36:39 EST

> To: <Serious-Weight-Watchers >

> Subject: RE: OK, I've been lurking and going to

take the plunge!

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are so right Tory, I'm going to have to start thinking that way too ! But

then some times I think--- Why can't I just be some one who is skinny and

doesn't even have to work at it. Life just isn't fair some times.. Ok I'll stop

whinning :-))

Theresa

Sure it's hard Theresa...that's what makes it so wonderful when you

attain it!

When I start to make excuses (and trust me, I do) I remind myself that

most people won't do this. A typical person won't get up and exercise. A

typical person won't count their calories. A typical person won't give

up something high in calories for something high in nutrients. Then I

ask myself, " Do you want to be typical? "

No way!

So it is hard, but that's part of what makes it so rewarding!