Re: faisselle...the same as DCC? I just move to France

[Guest guest]

At 12:52 PM 4/3/2009, you wrote:

I just moved to France and I

cant figure out if Faisselle is the same as DCC/ Farmers cheese. I have

looked all over the internet and cant figure it out! I just made some

cheese cake out of it and it doesnt look right and now my throat hurts

(which happens to me sometimes when i have dairy). Does anyone

know!??

http://www.regimegs.com/

may help you. It's a French language web site for SCD.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Very helpful...and sad-- it says that DCC is impossible to find in Europe, which

means whatever i just ate is NOT compliant no wonder Im feeling VERY brain foggy

right now. Grrr

> >I just moved to France and I cant figure out if

> >Faisselle is the same as DCC/ Farmers cheese. I

> >have looked all over the internet and cant

> >figure it out! I just made some cheese cake out

> >of it and it doesnt look right and now my throat

> >hurts (which happens to me sometimes when i have dairy). Does anyone know!??

>

> http://www.regimegs.com/

>

> may help you. It's a French language web site for SCD.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

At 01:08 PM 4/3/2009, you wrote:

Very helpful...and sad-- it says

that DCC is impossible to find in Europe, which means whatever i just ate

is NOT compliant no wonder Im feeling VERY brain foggy right now.

Grrr

You can, however, substitute well-drained SCD yogurt for DCCC in any

recipe -- I did it for four years when I started the diet.

And... at least you now have a French-language site to help you with

local questions. BEFORE you eat something illegal!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Hello and welcome to France :)I have been living here for a good year now (i am in Normandy). And yes, in Europe we can't find DCC, faiselle has carbohydrates inside. I have been making big quantities of dripped yogurt like Marilyn in Excalibur to compensate this lack of DCC.

I am thrilled that there is anotehr SCD-er here in France, we are not a lot In fact i feel quite lonely here, so i am happy you came :)Don't hesitate to ask if you have any other question about legal products here.

Janja

[Guest guest]

I am really surprised that you can't find farmer's cheese in Europe. My grandmother (deceased) was from Czechoslovakia (pre WWII), and they only used farmer cheese in cooking. She was pleased to find it in NYC when she came here and used to put it on her delicious fruit dumplings with melted butter and sugar.

I'm wondering if fromage blanc ( in France) may be an alternative. I'll have to research it to see if it is aged and lactose free.

Terry

Re: faisselle...the same as DCC? I just move to France

Very helpful...and sad-- it says that DCC is impossible to find in Europe, which means whatever i just ate is NOT compliant no wonder Im feeling VERY brain foggy right now. Grrr> >I just moved to France and I cant figure out if > >Faisselle is the same as DCC/ Farmers cheese. I > >have looked all over the internet and cant > >figure it out! I just made some cheese cake out > >of it and it doesnt look right and now my throat > >hurts (which happens to me sometimes when i have dairy). Does anyone know!??> > http://www.regimegs.com/> > may help you. It's a French language web site for SCD.> > > - Marilyn> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001> Darn Good SCD Cook> No Human Children> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund>

[Guest guest]

>Hi Janja,

I accidentally used some cream this week because i thought it was milk, it

lable looked ok-- it just read cream lait and some vitamins after I realized it

was cream I went and got some milk and have made that. Do you know which brands

of yogurt, or juice are ok to use? This has been driving me crazy, I dont want

my mistakes to harm my health. I bought a yogurt named " nature " that looked

ok...but again I'm just trying my best. If you have any favorites or

recommendations it would really help me out.

Thanks!

Whitney

> Hi Janja,

>

> I know, I just researched fromage blanc and it has carbs in it--darn!

> I also was so happy when I found out we could use farmer cheese on SCD because

I had such fond memories of it from when I was a child and my grandmother

brought it to us.

>

> But, you know, I'm sure the dripped cream yogurt ( or make your own half and

half with milk and cream )will be delicious. perhaps with time you might find

something available there. I use Lucy's starter and it makes great yogurt.

> I'm jealous you get to have all those wonderful French cheeses!

>

> Bonne chance!

> Terry

>

> Message -----

>

> To: BTVC-SCD <mailto:BTVC-SCD >

> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: faisselle...the same as DCC? I just move to

France

>

>

> Hi Terry,

>

>

>

> I am really surprised that you can't find farmer's cheese in Europe. My

grandmother (deceased) was from Czechoslovakia (pre WWII), and they only used

farmer cheese in cooking. She was pleased to find it in NYC when she came here

and used to put it on her delicious fruit dumplings with melted butter and

sugar.

> I'm wondering if fromage blanc ( in France) may be an alternative. I'll have

to research it to see if it is aged and lactose free.

>

> As i said i am in France for one year already but i am from Slovenia

(another slav country) where we also use 'farmers cheese' in almost anything,

every second recipe I used to make preSCD used these cheese inside. So when i

started SCD i thought great, i would be able to use this (in slovenia we call it

skuta or fresh cheese) so i wrote to few dairy companies to sadly discover that

it always had carbohydrates inside, it is not the same fabrication as for US

DCC. Despite that the taste might be the same (your grandmother could easily

substitute it because she didn't need to look after those carbohydrates/lactose

inside) it is definitely not legal. In France even worse, the fromage blanc is

quite liquid, it is like DCC mixed with yogurt. In textuire faisselle is more

similar to DCC. But as i already said, here we can't find legal farmers cheese,

at least i haven't discovered it yet.

>

> Another thing 'celiacwhits' (i don't know your real name as you didn't sign

your post), don't try to search for half and half because it doesn't exsist

here. And it is very hard to find legal cream that doesn't contain carragheans

to make our own half and half or legal creme fraiche. I also did a minor study

on this while searching So there is only one legal brand of pasteurized cream

we can buy in France, and then there is also option to buy cream from farmers

that is also sold in supermarkets (called creme crue or creme fermiere crue)

which is what i am buying because in my town i can't get that legal pasteurized

cream.

> Also i think that French Danone natural yogurt isn't the same as you have in

US, here it doesn't have acidophilus inside and it has many other additives so i

am using 2 other brands of natural yogurts and i order yogurt starter from

Lucy's kitchen.

>

> Janja

> UC from july 2007

> SCD from august 2007

> no meds

>

[Guest guest]

>Hi Janja,

I accidentally used some cream this week because i thought it was milk, it

lable looked ok-- it just read cream lait and some vitamins after I realized it

was cream I went and got some milk and have made that. Do you know which brands

of yogurt, or juice are ok to use? This has been driving me crazy, I dont want

my mistakes to harm my health. I bought a yogurt named " nature " that looked

ok...but again I'm just trying my best. If you have any favorites or

recommendations it would really help me out.

Thanks!

Whitney

> Hi Janja,

>

> I know, I just researched fromage blanc and it has carbs in it--darn!

> I also was so happy when I found out we could use farmer cheese on SCD because

I had such fond memories of it from when I was a child and my grandmother

brought it to us.

>

> But, you know, I'm sure the dripped cream yogurt ( or make your own half and

half with milk and cream )will be delicious. perhaps with time you might find

something available there. I use Lucy's starter and it makes great yogurt.

> I'm jealous you get to have all those wonderful French cheeses!

>

> Bonne chance!

> Terry

>

> Message -----

>

> To: BTVC-SCD <mailto:BTVC-SCD >

> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: faisselle...the same as DCC? I just move to

France

>

>

> Hi Terry,

>

>

>

> I am really surprised that you can't find farmer's cheese in Europe. My

grandmother (deceased) was from Czechoslovakia (pre WWII), and they only used

farmer cheese in cooking. She was pleased to find it in NYC when she came here

and used to put it on her delicious fruit dumplings with melted butter and

sugar.

> I'm wondering if fromage blanc ( in France) may be an alternative. I'll have

to research it to see if it is aged and lactose free.

>

> As i said i am in France for one year already but i am from Slovenia

(another slav country) where we also use 'farmers cheese' in almost anything,

every second recipe I used to make preSCD used these cheese inside. So when i

started SCD i thought great, i would be able to use this (in slovenia we call it

skuta or fresh cheese) so i wrote to few dairy companies to sadly discover that

it always had carbohydrates inside, it is not the same fabrication as for US

DCC. Despite that the taste might be the same (your grandmother could easily

substitute it because she didn't need to look after those carbohydrates/lactose

inside) it is definitely not legal. In France even worse, the fromage blanc is

quite liquid, it is like DCC mixed with yogurt. In textuire faisselle is more

similar to DCC. But as i already said, here we can't find legal farmers cheese,

at least i haven't discovered it yet.

>

> Another thing 'celiacwhits' (i don't know your real name as you didn't sign

your post), don't try to search for half and half because it doesn't exsist

here. And it is very hard to find legal cream that doesn't contain carragheans

to make our own half and half or legal creme fraiche. I also did a minor study

on this while searching So there is only one legal brand of pasteurized cream

we can buy in France, and then there is also option to buy cream from farmers

that is also sold in supermarkets (called creme crue or creme fermiere crue)

which is what i am buying because in my town i can't get that legal pasteurized

cream.

> Also i think that French Danone natural yogurt isn't the same as you have in

US, here it doesn't have acidophilus inside and it has many other additives so i

am using 2 other brands of natural yogurts and i order yogurt starter from

Lucy's kitchen.

>

> Janja

> UC from july 2007

> SCD from august 2007

> no meds

>

[Guest guest]

>Hi Janja,

I accidentally used some cream this week because i thought it was milk, it

lable looked ok-- it just read cream lait and some vitamins after I realized it

was cream I went and got some milk and have made that. Do you know which brands

of yogurt, or juice are ok to use? This has been driving me crazy, I dont want

my mistakes to harm my health. I bought a yogurt named " nature " that looked

ok...but again I'm just trying my best. If you have any favorites or

recommendations it would really help me out.

Thanks!

Whitney

> Hi Janja,

>

> I know, I just researched fromage blanc and it has carbs in it--darn!

> I also was so happy when I found out we could use farmer cheese on SCD because

I had such fond memories of it from when I was a child and my grandmother

brought it to us.

>

> But, you know, I'm sure the dripped cream yogurt ( or make your own half and

half with milk and cream )will be delicious. perhaps with time you might find

something available there. I use Lucy's starter and it makes great yogurt.

> I'm jealous you get to have all those wonderful French cheeses!

>

> Bonne chance!

> Terry

>

> Message -----

>

> To: BTVC-SCD <mailto:BTVC-SCD >

> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: faisselle...the same as DCC? I just move to

France

>

>

> Hi Terry,

>

>

>

> I am really surprised that you can't find farmer's cheese in Europe. My

grandmother (deceased) was from Czechoslovakia (pre WWII), and they only used

farmer cheese in cooking. She was pleased to find it in NYC when she came here

and used to put it on her delicious fruit dumplings with melted butter and

sugar.

> I'm wondering if fromage blanc ( in France) may be an alternative. I'll have

to research it to see if it is aged and lactose free.

>

> As i said i am in France for one year already but i am from Slovenia

(another slav country) where we also use 'farmers cheese' in almost anything,

every second recipe I used to make preSCD used these cheese inside. So when i

started SCD i thought great, i would be able to use this (in slovenia we call it

skuta or fresh cheese) so i wrote to few dairy companies to sadly discover that

it always had carbohydrates inside, it is not the same fabrication as for US

DCC. Despite that the taste might be the same (your grandmother could easily

substitute it because she didn't need to look after those carbohydrates/lactose

inside) it is definitely not legal. In France even worse, the fromage blanc is

quite liquid, it is like DCC mixed with yogurt. In textuire faisselle is more

similar to DCC. But as i already said, here we can't find legal farmers cheese,

at least i haven't discovered it yet.

>

> Another thing 'celiacwhits' (i don't know your real name as you didn't sign

your post), don't try to search for half and half because it doesn't exsist

here. And it is very hard to find legal cream that doesn't contain carragheans

to make our own half and half or legal creme fraiche. I also did a minor study

on this while searching So there is only one legal brand of pasteurized cream

we can buy in France, and then there is also option to buy cream from farmers

that is also sold in supermarkets (called creme crue or creme fermiere crue)

which is what i am buying because in my town i can't get that legal pasteurized

cream.

> Also i think that French Danone natural yogurt isn't the same as you have in

US, here it doesn't have acidophilus inside and it has many other additives so i

am using 2 other brands of natural yogurts and i order yogurt starter from

Lucy's kitchen.

>

> Janja

> UC from july 2007

> SCD from august 2007

> no meds

>

[Guest guest]

HI Marilyn,

Thanks for your help. Although the site is all in French and doesnt have a

whole lot of detail, it more or less outlines the diet...which I already know.

But it did say no DCC in France, so that did help.

> >Very helpful...and sad-- it says that DCC is

> >impossible to find in Europe, which means

> >whatever i just ate is NOT compliant no wonder

> >Im feeling VERY brain foggy right now. Grrr

>

> You can, however, substitute well-drained SCD

> yogurt for DCCC in any recipe -- I did it for

> four years when I started the diet.

>

> And... at least you now have a French-language

> site to help you with local questions. BEFORE you eat something illegal!

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>