Canned Goods, was Digest Number 900

[Guest guest]

I asked the original question

about the tomatoes. We are three weeks into this with a celiac toddler

and the whole family is going SCD. It takes awhile to digest the

information and get the concepts behind the diet. We live in a " food

desert " and I like to have some canned goods on hand just as a back

up for bad weather, washed out roads, etc.

,

I live in hurricane country, so believe me, I understand the question of

emergency preparedness.

The standing rule of SCD is that no canned goods are permitted, unless

you canned them yourself, without added illegals.

However, Elaine allowed a few items after scrupulous research.

Basic rules:

1. No illegals on the label.

2. Contact the company to determine if there are any hidden illegals --

and this can be harder than you think. For example, someone on the

Pecanbread list asked about the Pacific brand vegetable broth. B.

answered pretty succinctly. " Not legal without a letter from the

manufacturer. As per FDA regulations, sub-ingredients do not have to be

listed. On the web site I visited, it mentions using two juice

concentrates (which may have unlisted sub-ingredients), garlic and onion

powders (both can have unlisted anti-caking agents) and tomato paste

(some brands of tomato paste have unlisted sub-ingredients including

gluten). I'll take a second to point out that vegetable stock is the

easiest thing to make -- only takes about an hour or so. Simmer, strain,

done! "

3. You must get the information in writing, on the company letterhead.

Basically, this is because you may get some know-nothing in the e-mail

department or on the phone lines who will tell you whatever they think

you want to hear in order to get you off the phone, and them on to the

next victim, er, customer. (Example: I called to ask about a brand of

chili powder which I had been using. They woman on the phone assured me

that they used only the finest ingredients, blah, blah, blah, but when I

asked her to send it to me in a physical letter, she refused, saying she

was not allowed to. I asked why. Turns out the company changes their

processing throughout the year, so what's in one batch may not be in

another -- yet they use the same label year-round. These " processing

aids " are not " ingredients " and do not have to be listed

on the label.

Be aware that what is put in one brand of a food in one part of the

country (or the world!), even if the same brand) may not be the same as

in another part. There is one brand of mustard (Maille?) which is legal

in Toronto, but the same brand, the same label (almost) contains illegals

in Atlanta.

4. If you, personally, do not react to the canned food after you have

verified it, then you may use it for your own purposes. BUT: if you do

not see the levels of healing that you would like to see, then the first

thing you should do is yank all commercially prepared foods. Failure to

heal while using commercial goods does not mean SCD has failed -- but it

may mean there is a flaw in your implementation of it.

BTW, please, when REPLYING to a digest, make sure you trim out everything

except what you are actually replying to.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

So sorry about replying to the " digest " !

Thanks for helping me understand this. Have very many people had

luck getting a letter from manufacturers? I am at that

initial " overwhelmed with all the cooking " stage and wondering how

worth the time it would be to contact different companies for the

items we are " hoping " to use.

We don't live in an area or climate where there is a lot of produce

lying around waiting to be canned .

Thanks again!

celiac toddler SCD Jan 2009

>

>

> >I asked the original question about the

> >tomatoes. We are three weeks into this with a

> >celiac toddler and the whole family is going

> >SCD. It takes awhile to digest the information

> >and get the concepts behind the diet. We live in

> >a " food desert " and I like to have some canned

> >goods on hand just as a back up for bad weather, washed out

roads, etc.

>

> ,

>

> I live in hurricane country, so believe me, I

> understand the question of emergency preparedness.

>

> The standing rule of SCD is that no canned goods

> are permitted, unless you canned them yourself, without added

illegals.

>

> However, Elaine allowed a few items after scrupulous research.

>

> Basic rules:

>

> 1. No illegals on the label.

>

> 2. Contact the company to determine if there are

> any hidden illegals -- and this can be harder

> than you think. For example, someone on the

> Pecanbread list asked about the Pacific brand

> vegetable broth. B. answered pretty

> succinctly. " Not legal without a letter from the

> manufacturer. As per FDA regulations,

> sub-ingredients do not have to be listed. On the

> web site I visited, it mentions using two juice

> concentrates (which may have unlisted

> sub-ingredients), garlic and onion powders (both

> can have unlisted anti-caking agents) and tomato

> paste (some brands of tomato paste have unlisted

> sub-ingredients including gluten). I'll take a

> second to point out that vegetable stock is the

> easiest thing to make -- only takes about an hour

> or so. Simmer, strain, done! "

>

> 3. You must get the information in writing, on

> the company letterhead. Basically, this is

> because you may get some know-nothing in the

> e-mail department or on the phone lines who will

> tell you whatever they think you want to hear in

> order to get you off the phone, and them on to

> the next victim, er, customer. (Example: I called

> to ask about a brand of chili powder which I had

> been using. They woman on the phone assured me

> that they used only the finest ingredients, blah,

> blah, blah, but when I asked her to send it to me

> in a physical letter, she refused, saying she was

> not allowed to. I asked why. Turns out the

> company changes their processing throughout the

> year, so what's in one batch may not be in

> another -- yet they use the same label

> year-round. These " processing aids " are not

> " ingredients " and do not have to be listed on the label.

>

> Be aware that what is put in one brand of a food

> in one part of the country (or the world!), even

> if the same brand) may not be the same as in

> another part. There is one brand of mustard

> (Maille?) which is legal in Toronto, but the same

> brand, the same label (almost) contains illegals in Atlanta.

>

> 4. If you, personally, do not react to the canned

> food after you have verified it, then you may use

> it for your own purposes. BUT: if you do not see

> the levels of healing that you would like to see,

> then the first thing you should do is yank all

> commercially prepared foods. Failure to heal

> while using commercial goods does not mean SCD

> has failed -- but it may mean there is a flaw in your

implementation of it.

>

> BTW, please, when REPLYING to a digest, make sure

> you trim out everything except what you are actually replying to.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

> I live in hurricane country, so believe me, I

> understand the question of emergency preparedness.

>

> The standing rule of SCD is that no canned goods

> are permitted, unless you canned them yourself, without added illegals.

Hi Marilyn,

Was that the original rule? I thought the rule was no canned

vegetables but some other things are OK. Canned fruits I thought were

OK " in its own juice " (although my son reacts to those so they're out

for us).

Canned tuna and salmon that are packed with salt, water, olive oil are

OK but you MUST READ labels. Tuna that says " packed in water " usually

is packed in broth.

Sardines are OK if in olive oil or water, NOT in soybean oil.

Please let me know if I'm wrong, of course.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

,

My apologies.... I was tired last night when I was writing that, and did

not make it as complete as it should have been. You are correct:

Fruits canned in their own juice (getting harder to find, as

" pineapple canned in pineapple juice " is not the same thing as

" pineapple canned in its own juice " ) are permitted. Fruits

canned in some other fruit juice, such as pears in white grape juice, are

not permitted.

Canned tuna and salmon that are packed with salt, water, olive oil are OK

but you MUST READ labels. Tuna that says " packed in water "

usually is packed in broth. And that " broth " is usually

chock-a-block full of msg and soy protein and all sorts of things to

" improve " the flavor, while rendering it undigestible.

Sardines are OK if in olive oil or water, NOT in soybean oil. Soybean oil

used to be acceptable -- not a favorite, but acceptable, until they

started being less careful with the oil production and leaving soy

proteins in to which many people react.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund