Re: For Esther - Re: New/Old and Effective RA Treatment

February 5, 2008

Hi....

which program do you mean ?.. the hormone treatment ? this list is a support

site for the antibiotic protocol therapy.

if you give us your name, we can write back to you.

Leonie

rheumatic For Esther - Re: New/Old and Effective RA Treatment

Hello;

I just joined to find out more about this program while we wait for

the books.

I am some what surprized by the comments on hormone therapy as it

clearly states ... item j. Are there hormonal imbalances that need

correcting?

In addition it says to test for: 2 - possible low levels of DHEA and

testosterone

So wouldn't hormonal testing be a basic part of this program?

Also one of the side effects of the recommended antibiotics is that

of reducing the effectiveness of birth control pills, it doesn't say

exactly why. does anyone know?

How many people actually had all the recommended tests done before

beginning the program?

Thanks

>

> Although this is just surmise on my part, this would beg the

question...by

> supplementing with hormones, natural or otherwise, are we feeding

the mycos and

> just keeping them happy? This would be much like the whole Vit D

controversy.

>

> Peace, Maz

>

February 5, 2008

Hello;

I just joined to find out more about this program while we wait for

the books.ANSWERS ARE IN LARGE PRINT IN YOUR NOTE.

I am some what surprized by the comments on hormone therapy as it

clearly states ... item j. Are there hormonal imbalances that need

correcting? SOME PEOPLE FEEL THI IS SO. I ONLY TAKE HORMONES BECAUSE I HAVE

STARTED HOT FLASHES AT AGE 60.

In addition it says to test for: 2 - possible low levels of DHEA and

testosterone SORRY I DON'T KNOW MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WILL HELP YOU HERE.

So wouldn't hormonal testing be a basic part of this program?

NO. THIS ANTIBIOTIC PROGRAM IS BASED ON ANTIBIOTICS FOR " AUTO IMMUNE "

DISEASES.

Also one of the side effects of the recommended antibiotics is that

of reducing the effectiveness of birth control pills, it doesn't say

exactly why. does anyone know?

THERE ARE A LOT OF MEDS THAT REDUCE THE POTENCY OF BIRTH COMTROL. IT MEANS

THAT YOU SHOULD BE SURE AND USE OTHER PROTECTION WHEN ON THEM.

How many people actually had all the recommended tests done before

beginning the program?

MOST OF US HAVE HAD THE TESTS DONE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TO RHEUMATOLOGISTS

THAT DO THEM ON A ROUTINE BASIS. AS FOR THE MYCOPLASMA TESTING I THINK YOU

WILL FIND THAT MOST PEOPLE JUST START THE ANTIBIOTICS.

YOUR VERY WELCOME. ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT DOING ANTIBIOTICS? For what

disease? Is your doctor in favor of the program?

Cooky ap 10 years

Thanks

>

> Although this is just surmise on my part, this would beg the

question...by

> supplementing with hormones, natural or otherwise, are we feeding

the mycos and

> just keeping them happy? This would be much like the whole Vit D

controversy.

>

> Peace, Maz

>

February 5, 2008

Hi, Wiccan. I don't know about your experience ... but when it comes

to hormones, my experience is that most doctors don't have a clue. I'm

pretty sure they do not teach hormones in med school. Regular doctors

do not know how to test hormones. They don't know anything about what

symptoms mean (like hot flashes).

One of my doctors says that hormone stuff should be taught in high

school, especially for women because we start & stop at certain points

that put some of us in radical swings. Men in general aren't prone to

swing this way. Anyway, I have to go to hormone doctors (that's what I

call them) because endocrinologists & mainstream haven't the foggiest.

Even with the hormone doctors, I found that I needed to be educated

FIRST! The hormone docs tend to over prescribe, which will screw you up

as much as anything. ... oh don't get me started there!!

I realize that the rheumatic.org (on which this group was founded)

recommends that we correct hormonal imbalances. It is pretty far down

on the list... the first focus being AP of course. I don't know if

others had hormone problems like me... but I'm guessing many of their

doctors are like the mainstream that I know... doctors who do not

consider hormone testing to be relevant. The only reason I'm on the

hormone path is because it was the first fire I came upon I found out

that my thyroid died ... and then I started looking at the other

hormones & found those were close to zero. I'm just busy putting out

fires.

Amy

wiccantwinpaths wrote:

>

> Hello;

>

> I just joined to find out more about this program while we wait for

> the books.

>

> I am some what surprized by the comments on hormone therapy as it

> clearly states ... item j. Are there hormonal imbalances that need

> correcting?

>

> In addition it says to test for: 2 - possible low levels of DHEA and

> testosterone

>

> So wouldn't hormonal testing be a basic part of this program?

>

> Also one of the side effects of the recommended antibiotics is that

> of reducing the effectiveness of birth control pills, it doesn't say

> exactly why. does anyone know?

>

> How many people actually had all the recommended tests done before

> beginning the program?

>

> Thanks

>

> >

> > Although this is just surmise on my part, this would beg the

> question...by

> > supplementing with hormones, natural or otherwise, are we feeding

> the mycos and

> > just keeping them happy? This would be much like the whole Vit D

> controversy.

> >

> > Peace, Maz

> >

February 5, 2008

Hi Amy,

You sound like you really could use the book NATURAL HORMONE BALANCE

FOR WOMEN

by Uzzi Reiss, Md GYN. It gives you practical and useful advise to

adjust various hormones based

on the symptoms you experience instead of analyzing, paying and waiting

for the results.

My wife, nne, gave the book to her doctor and she was delighted.

Applying the recommendations,

nne really got well.

Good Luck

Amy wrote:

>

> Hi, Wiccan. I don't know about your experience ... but when it comes

> to hormones, my experience is that most doctors don't have a clue. I'm

> pretty sure they do not teach hormones in med school. Regular doctors

> do not know how to test hormones. They don't know anything about what

> symptoms mean (like hot flashes).

>

> One of my doctors says that hormone stuff should be taught in high

> school, especially for women because we start & stop at certain points

> that put some of us in radical swings. Men in general aren't prone to

> swing this way. Anyway, I have to go to hormone doctors (that's what I

> call them) because endocrinologists & mainstream haven't the foggiest.

>

> Even with the hormone doctors, I found that I needed to be educated

> FIRST! The hormone docs tend to over prescribe, which will screw you up

> as much as anything. ... oh don't get me started there!!

>

> I realize that the rheumatic.org (on which this group was founded)

> recommends that we correct hormonal imbalances. It is pretty far down

> on the list... the first focus being AP of course. I don't know if

> others had hormone problems like me... but I'm guessing many of their

> doctors are like the mainstream that I know... doctors who do not

> consider hormone testing to be relevant. The only reason I'm on the

> hormone path is because it was the first fire I came upon I found out

> that my thyroid died ... and then I started looking at the other

> hormones & found those were close to zero. I'm just busy putting out

> fires.

> Amy

>

> wiccantwinpaths wrote:

> >

> > Hello;

> >

> > I just joined to find out more about this program while we wait for

> > the books.

> >

> > I am some what surprized by the comments on hormone therapy as it

> > clearly states ... item j. Are there hormonal imbalances that need

> > correcting?

> >

> > In addition it says to test for: 2 - possible low levels of DHEA and

> > testosterone

> >

> > So wouldn't hormonal testing be a basic part of this program?

> >

> > Also one of the side effects of the recommended antibiotics is that

> > of reducing the effectiveness of birth control pills, it doesn't say

> > exactly why. does anyone know?

> >

> > How many people actually had all the recommended tests done before

> > beginning the program?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > >

> > > Although this is just surmise on my part, this would beg the

> > question...by

> > > supplementing with hormones, natural or otherwise, are we feeding

> > the mycos and

> > > just keeping them happy? This would be much like the whole Vit D

> > controversy.

> > >

> > > Peace, Maz

> > >

February 6, 2008

PS: Dr.Reiss recognized early that every women may have a different

hormone requirement. For this reason the

dose should not x mg/day, rather observe your body's reaction and

optimize according to symptyms.

He tells you for every hormone the symptoms of too low or too high.

For example estrogen: Too low, results in night sweats, Anxiety,

Depressed, fatigue, weight gain

Too high, gives you tender breasts

and water retention.

Wiesboeck wrote:

>

> Hi Amy,

> You sound like you really could use the book NATURAL HORMONE BALANCE

> FOR WOMEN

> by Uzzi Reiss, Md GYN. It gives you practical and useful advise to

> adjust various hormones based

> on the symptoms you experience instead of analyzing, paying and waiting

> for the results.

> My wife, nne, gave the book to her doctor and she was delighted.

> Applying the recommendations,

> nne really got well.

>

> Good Luck

>

> Amy wrote:

> >

> > Hi, Wiccan. I don't know about your experience ... but when it comes

> > to hormones, my experience is that most doctors don't have a clue. I'm

> > pretty sure they do not teach hormones in med school. Regular doctors

> > do not know how to test hormones. They don't know anything about what

> > symptoms mean (like hot flashes).

> >

> > One of my doctors says that hormone stuff should be taught in high

> > school, especially for women because we start & stop at certain points

> > that put some of us in radical swings. Men in general aren't prone to

> > swing this way. Anyway, I have to go to hormone doctors (that's what I

> > call them) because endocrinologists & mainstream haven't the foggiest.

> >

> > Even with the hormone doctors, I found that I needed to be educated

> > FIRST! The hormone docs tend to over prescribe, which will screw you up

> > as much as anything. ... oh don't get me started there!!

> >

> > I realize that the rheumatic.org (on which this group was founded)

> > recommends that we correct hormonal imbalances. It is pretty far down

> > on the list... the first focus being AP of course. I don't know if

> > others had hormone problems like me... but I'm guessing many of their

> > doctors are like the mainstream that I know... doctors who do not

> > consider hormone testing to be relevant. The only reason I'm on the

> > hormone path is because it was the first fire I came upon I found out

> > that my thyroid died ... and then I started looking at the other

> > hormones & found those were close to zero. I'm just busy putting out

> > fires.

> > Amy

> >

> > wiccantwinpaths wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello;

> > >

> > > I just joined to find out more about this program while we wait for

> > > the books.

> > >

> > > I am some what surprized by the comments on hormone therapy as it

> > > clearly states ... item j. Are there hormonal imbalances that need

> > > correcting?

> > >

> > > In addition it says to test for: 2 - possible low levels of DHEA and

> > > testosterone

> > >

> > > So wouldn't hormonal testing be a basic part of this program?

> > >

> > > Also one of the side effects of the recommended antibiotics is that

> > > of reducing the effectiveness of birth control pills, it doesn't say

> > > exactly why. does anyone know?

> > >

> > > How many people actually had all the recommended tests done before

> > > beginning the program?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Although this is just surmise on my part, this would beg the

> > > question...by

> > > > supplementing with hormones, natural or otherwise, are we feeding

> > > the mycos and

> > > > just keeping them happy? This would be much like the whole Vit D

> > > controversy.

> > > >

> > > > Peace, Maz

> > > >

February 6, 2008

Hi all,

As soon as I saw the title below, I checked for the book at my public

library and it is there! So I'm going to check it out and see what Dr.

Reiss has to say. Thanks for the lead. El

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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:01 AM

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