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, since I have no © on it, go right ahead. I think that anything that a

" normal " person can understand works. I also made up an " average " workday with

points (like the spoon story) that I have adults take. After they give me their

score, I say " OK, now take away half your points and let's see what you're

willing to give up. " I tell them that is a decision " we " need to make everyday -

what we can and cannot do just because we don't have all that energy.

W4JC@... wrote:

Hi ,

Thank you so much for all you are doing to raise awareness. I really like the

analogy of standing in line to watch a movie! That is something everyone can

understand. I think I will borrow that analogy for people I talk to if you

don't mind, but I will give you credit for coming up with the idea :-)

In a message dated 12/20/2004 9:25:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, Cohen

writes:

>

>Amy:

>

>That's great that you are working to raise awareness. I've done a couple of

presentations to groups, and one to Bar/Bat Mitzvah candidates who have to do a

Mitzvah (good deed) project, hoping that one would choose organ donation

awareness as their project.

>

>Talking to people, I ask them who likes to wait on line, like at the movies. No

one volunteers. So then I say what if you didn't see the movie, you could die,

who would wait on line. Most, if not all, raise their hands. Then I ask them how

they would feel if the line for movie was 5 years long, and everyday they

waited, they might not make it, or they'd have to spend time hooked to a

machine. I tell that that is what it is like everyday for someone waiting on the

organ list. I got a lot of comments from parents in the room asking how to

become a donor.

>

>

>

>Amy Griswold wrote:

>Kathleen,

> I think you are on to something here. I also think that those of us in our

late 20's to early 40's tend to have young kids or aspirations of having

children. When we get hit with our diagnosis and the sometimes daily side

effects of medications or the disease it's rough. We are set in our life

pattern of working, taking care of children and house, and paying off the debt

we incurred in our early 20's. A major life change hits us older people hard

due to the responsibilities we already carry and the worry that we won't be able

to continue with them. I know my initial reaction is " How is this going to

affect my kids? " " What will happen to them if something happens to me? " As a

teen diagnosed there are problems to deal with but once you settle into the

routine it becomes part of your life and you build the responsibilities in your

life already adjusted to the fact that you have this disease.

> I also talk about my disease to anyone who wants to know about it.

Partially to raise the awareness of live donor transplants since whenever you

say " I'm a kidney patient " the first question you get is " Are you on dialysis? "

and " What will happen when your kidneys fail? " I find this is a great

opportunity to educate people on live donor transplants....I know quite a few

people I've spoken with didn't even realize they did live donor kidney

transplants. I was being measured by the woman at Curves the other day and she

asked the " What will happen if your kidneys fail? " question. I answered, in a

very relaxed tone, " I'll either have a transplant from a live donor or cadaver

or go on dialysis. " She just looked at me and was in amazement...she said " Just

like that, you sound like it's second hand. " I think just letting people know

it's just part of our life now, yes a major disease but just part of our life

none the less, is helpful in combating the " pity " factor. Perhaps it's

> just the teacher in me but I think it's good to educate people about diseases

they have no idea exist. Think about it, if the 100,000 or so people diagnosed

each year with IgAN told just 5 people each about this disease, that adds up to

500,000 people knowing about it's existence and about live donor transplant

opportunities. My hope is that it helps someone else down the road.

>

>Amy G.

> Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

>

>

>

> Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

>

> I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

> much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

> much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

> time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

> life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

> dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

> when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

> diagnosis.

>

> The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

> " pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

> about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

> to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

> waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

> co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

> really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

> because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

> very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

> sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

> average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

> needed to be able to manage my health care.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

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> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

>

> Thank you

>

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, since I have no © on it, go right ahead. I think that anything that a

" normal " person can understand works. I also made up an " average " workday with

points (like the spoon story) that I have adults take. After they give me their

score, I say " OK, now take away half your points and let's see what you're

willing to give up. " I tell them that is a decision " we " need to make everyday -

what we can and cannot do just because we don't have all that energy.

W4JC@... wrote:

Hi ,

Thank you so much for all you are doing to raise awareness. I really like the

analogy of standing in line to watch a movie! That is something everyone can

understand. I think I will borrow that analogy for people I talk to if you

don't mind, but I will give you credit for coming up with the idea :-)

In a message dated 12/20/2004 9:25:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, Cohen

writes:

>

>Amy:

>

>That's great that you are working to raise awareness. I've done a couple of

presentations to groups, and one to Bar/Bat Mitzvah candidates who have to do a

Mitzvah (good deed) project, hoping that one would choose organ donation

awareness as their project.

>

>Talking to people, I ask them who likes to wait on line, like at the movies. No

one volunteers. So then I say what if you didn't see the movie, you could die,

who would wait on line. Most, if not all, raise their hands. Then I ask them how

they would feel if the line for movie was 5 years long, and everyday they

waited, they might not make it, or they'd have to spend time hooked to a

machine. I tell that that is what it is like everyday for someone waiting on the

organ list. I got a lot of comments from parents in the room asking how to

become a donor.

>

>

>

>Amy Griswold wrote:

>Kathleen,

> I think you are on to something here. I also think that those of us in our

late 20's to early 40's tend to have young kids or aspirations of having

children. When we get hit with our diagnosis and the sometimes daily side

effects of medications or the disease it's rough. We are set in our life

pattern of working, taking care of children and house, and paying off the debt

we incurred in our early 20's. A major life change hits us older people hard

due to the responsibilities we already carry and the worry that we won't be able

to continue with them. I know my initial reaction is " How is this going to

affect my kids? " " What will happen to them if something happens to me? " As a

teen diagnosed there are problems to deal with but once you settle into the

routine it becomes part of your life and you build the responsibilities in your

life already adjusted to the fact that you have this disease.

> I also talk about my disease to anyone who wants to know about it.

Partially to raise the awareness of live donor transplants since whenever you

say " I'm a kidney patient " the first question you get is " Are you on dialysis? "

and " What will happen when your kidneys fail? " I find this is a great

opportunity to educate people on live donor transplants....I know quite a few

people I've spoken with didn't even realize they did live donor kidney

transplants. I was being measured by the woman at Curves the other day and she

asked the " What will happen if your kidneys fail? " question. I answered, in a

very relaxed tone, " I'll either have a transplant from a live donor or cadaver

or go on dialysis. " She just looked at me and was in amazement...she said " Just

like that, you sound like it's second hand. " I think just letting people know

it's just part of our life now, yes a major disease but just part of our life

none the less, is helpful in combating the " pity " factor. Perhaps it's

> just the teacher in me but I think it's good to educate people about diseases

they have no idea exist. Think about it, if the 100,000 or so people diagnosed

each year with IgAN told just 5 people each about this disease, that adds up to

500,000 people knowing about it's existence and about live donor transplant

opportunities. My hope is that it helps someone else down the road.

>

>Amy G.

> Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

>

>

>

> Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

>

> I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

> much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

> much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

> time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

> life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

> dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

> when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

> diagnosis.

>

> The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

> " pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

> about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

> to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

> waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

> co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

> really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

> because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

> very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

> sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

> average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

> needed to be able to manage my health care.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

>

> To unsubcribe via email,

> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by

donations. If you would like to help, go to:

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>

> Thank you

>

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Well, I am always up for a trip to CA, especially the bay area. Just give me

enought notice and I'd be more than happy to fly out there (especially since

that's where the wife grew up).

PS - of course she'd be with me - and junior too.

Cy Webb wrote:

,

What an awesome analogy. We just wrapped up Mitzvah Day at 's School.

How I wish we had you & Barb here for presentations!

Cy

Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

>

>

>

> Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

>

> I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

> much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

> much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

> time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

> life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

> dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

> when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

> diagnosis.

>

> The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

> " pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

> about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

> to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

> waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

> co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

> really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

> because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

> very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

> sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

> average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

> needed to be able to manage my health care.

>

> Kathleen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

>

> To unsubcribe via email,

> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely

supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to:

> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

>

> Thank you

>

>

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Great analogy ...I'll have to use that one when I get those blank stares, ya

know the ones that say " I have no clue what that might feel like " . I hope it

brought some realization into the minds of the kids that were there too. Making

organ donation a common thing would be wonderful.

Amy G.

Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

diagnosis.

The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

" pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

needed to be able to manage my health care.

Kathleen

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I'd say I came out a winner on all you are allowing me to plagiarize from you

:-)

In a message dated 12/21/2004 9:07:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,

garymattcohen@... writes:

>

> Well, OK I guess. I mean, since I " borrowed " it from " The Fairly Oddparents "

> on Nick, I don't think that I can stake a claim on that one either.

>

> Barb's daughter is also a 'Tink girl.

>

>

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Thanks Amy.

It was a spur of the moment thing... the speaker before me was awesome, and I

felt like if I just talked about donation I would get the hook....

Amy Griswold wrote:

Great analogy ...I'll have to use that one when I get those blank stares, ya

know the ones that say " I have no clue what that might feel like " . I hope it

brought some realization into the minds of the kids that were there too. Making

organ donation a common thing would be wonderful.

Amy G.

Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

diagnosis.

The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

" pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

needed to be able to manage my health care.

Kathleen

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Thanks Amy.

It was a spur of the moment thing... the speaker before me was awesome, and I

felt like if I just talked about donation I would get the hook....

Amy Griswold wrote:

Great analogy ...I'll have to use that one when I get those blank stares, ya

know the ones that say " I have no clue what that might feel like " . I hope it

brought some realization into the minds of the kids that were there too. Making

organ donation a common thing would be wonderful.

Amy G.

Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

diagnosis.

The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

" pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

needed to be able to manage my health care.

Kathleen

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home page:

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The way I see it - if plagarism gets us one more donor, it's worth it ;-).

W4JC@... wrote:

I'd say I came out a winner on all you are allowing me to plagiarize from you

:-)

In a message dated 12/21/2004 9:07:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,

garymattcohen@... writes:

>

> Well, OK I guess. I mean, since I " borrowed " it from " The Fairly Oddparents "

> on Nick, I don't think that I can stake a claim on that one either.

>

> Barb's daughter is also a 'Tink girl.

>

>

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- Amy - terrific posts. Sorry I'm so late in catching up!

LOVE your movie analogy !

Cohen wrote:

Amy:

That's great that you are working to raise awareness. I've done a couple of

presentations to groups, and one to Bar/Bat Mitzvah candidates who have to do a

Mitzvah (good deed) project, hoping that one would choose organ donation

awareness as their project.

Talking to people, I ask them who likes to wait on line, like at the movies. No

one volunteers. So then I say what if you didn't see the movie, you could die,

who would wait on line. Most, if not all, raise their hands. Then I ask them how

they would feel if the line for movie was 5 years long, and everyday they

waited, they might not make it, or they'd have to spend time hooked to a

machine. I tell that that is what it is like everyday for someone waiting on the

organ list. I got a lot of comments from parents in the room asking how to

become a donor.

Amy Griswold wrote:

Kathleen,

I think you are on to something here. I also think that those of us in our

late 20's to early 40's tend to have young kids or aspirations of having

children. When we get hit with our diagnosis and the sometimes daily side

effects of medications or the disease it's rough. We are set in our life

pattern of working, taking care of children and house, and paying off the debt

we incurred in our early 20's. A major life change hits us older people hard

due to the responsibilities we already carry and the worry that we won't be able

to continue with them. I know my initial reaction is " How is this going to

affect my kids? " " What will happen to them if something happens to me? " As a

teen diagnosed there are problems to deal with but once you settle into the

routine it becomes part of your life and you build the responsibilities in your

life already adjusted to the fact that you have this disease.

I also talk about my disease to anyone who wants to know about it.

Partially to raise the awareness of live donor transplants since whenever you

say " I'm a kidney patient " the first question you get is " Are you on dialysis? "

and " What will happen when your kidneys fail? " I find this is a great

opportunity to educate people on live donor transplants....I know quite a few

people I've spoken with didn't even realize they did live donor kidney

transplants. I was being measured by the woman at Curves the other day and she

asked the " What will happen if your kidneys fail? " question. I answered, in a

very relaxed tone, " I'll either have a transplant from a live donor or cadaver

or go on dialysis. " She just looked at me and was in amazement...she said " Just

like that, you sound like it's second hand. " I think just letting people know

it's just part of our life now, yes a major disease but just part of our life

none the less, is helpful in combating the " pity " factor. Perhaps it's

just the teacher in me but I think it's good to educate people about diseases

they have no idea exist. Think about it, if the 100,000 or so people diagnosed

each year with IgAN told just 5 people each about this disease, that adds up to

500,000 people knowing about it's existence and about live donor transplant

opportunities. My hope is that it helps someone else down the road.

Amy G.

Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

diagnosis.

The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

" pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

needed to be able to manage my health care.

Kathleen

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Thanks Rita. And it's free for anyone to use.

Rita Nucciarone wrote:

- Amy - terrific posts. Sorry I'm so late in catching up!

LOVE your movie analogy !

Cohen wrote:

Amy:

That's great that you are working to raise awareness. I've done a couple of

presentations to groups, and one to Bar/Bat Mitzvah candidates who have to do a

Mitzvah (good deed) project, hoping that one would choose organ donation

awareness as their project.

Talking to people, I ask them who likes to wait on line, like at the movies. No

one volunteers. So then I say what if you didn't see the movie, you could die,

who would wait on line. Most, if not all, raise their hands. Then I ask them how

they would feel if the line for movie was 5 years long, and everyday they

waited, they might not make it, or they'd have to spend time hooked to a

machine. I tell that that is what it is like everyday for someone waiting on the

organ list. I got a lot of comments from parents in the room asking how to

become a donor.

Amy Griswold

wrote:

Kathleen,

I think you are on to something here. I also think that those of us in our late

20's to early 40's tend to have young kids or aspirations of having children.

When we get hit with our diagnosis and the sometimes daily side effects of

medications or the disease it's rough. We are set in our life pattern of

working, taking care of children and house, and paying off the debt we incurred

in our early 20's. A major life change hits us older people hard due to the

responsibilities we already carry and the worry that we won't be able to

continue with them. I know my initial reaction is " How is this going to affect

my kids? " " What will happen to them if something happens to me? " As a teen

diagnosed there are problems to deal with but once you settle into the routine

it becomes part of your life and you build the responsibilities in your life

already adjusted to the fact that you have this disease.

I also talk about my disease to anyone who wants to know about it. Partially to

raise the awareness of live donor transplants since whenever you say " I'm a

kidney patient " the first question you get is " Are you on dialysis? " and " What

will happen when your kidneys fail? " I find this is a great opportunity to

educate people on live donor transplants....I know quite a few people I've

spoken with didn't even realize they did live donor kidney transplants. I was

being measured by the woman at Curves the other day and she asked the " What will

happen if your kidneys fail? " question. I answered, in a very relaxed tone,

" I'll either have a transplant from a live donor or cadaver or go on dialysis. "

She just looked at me and was in amazement...she said " Just like that, you sound

like it's second hand. " I think just letting people know it's just part of our

life now, yes a major disease but just part of our life none the less, is

helpful in combating the " pity " factor. Perhaps it's

just the teacher in me but I think it's good to educate people about diseases

they have no idea exist. Think about it, if the 100,000 or so people diagnosed

each year with IgAN told just 5 people each about this disease, that adds up to

500,000 people knowing about it's existence and about live donor transplant

opportunities. My hope is that it helps someone else down the road.

Amy G.

Kidney disease young, vs. later in life

Ruminating about Pierre's latest posting...

I find those of us who develop kidney disease at a younger age are

much more " well adjusted " to it than someone who is faced with it at a

much later stage in life - more accepting, maybe? Generally by the

time we know what's going on and what it means for the rest of our

life, we've gotten used to the protocol, doctor visits, meds, and

dietary restrictions, etc., etc. So it doesn't seem so earth shaking

when we're going through the first stages of the disease and it's

diagnosis.

The one thing that does bother me, however, is (what I call) the

" pitying attitude " of others. And having CKD for so long, and looking

about 10 years younger than I really am, I see it a lot. It's gotten

to the point where I don't strike up conversations in the patient

waiting room at the nephrologists anymore and don't mention it to

co-workers and friends unless it's absolutely necessary or I know them

really, really well. Most seem to feel that it's a death sentance,

because they don't know much about kidney disease, or they only see

very sick and worn out people on dialysis. Rather than being a death

sentance for me, it's helped me to appreciate life more than the

average person does. Plus, I was taught at a very young age that I

needed to be able to manage my health care.

Kathleen

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Hi Kathleen,

I'm Josh's Mom whose story is posted in the Files Personal Stories

section. I haven't been on the site much as my son has been quite

stable for the last couple of years.

However, I am planning to do a speech at our Toastmaster's club on

organ transplant. I'm wondering if you have any more info or ideas

on how to impact a variety of people in their 30-50's? I'd love to

have them all whip out their driver's licenses and sign the back as

the finale to the talk.

Thanks for any ideas you have.

Erna T

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Hi Kathleen,

I'm Josh's Mom whose story is posted in the Files Personal Stories

section. I haven't been on the site much as my son has been quite

stable for the last couple of years.

However, I am planning to do a speech at our Toastmaster's club on

organ transplant. I'm wondering if you have any more info or ideas

on how to impact a variety of people in their 30-50's? I'd love to

have them all whip out their driver's licenses and sign the back as

the finale to the talk.

Thanks for any ideas you have.

Erna T

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Hi Kathleen,

I'm Josh's Mom whose story is posted in the Files Personal Stories

section. I haven't been on the site much as my son has been quite

stable for the last couple of years.

However, I am planning to do a speech at our Toastmaster's club on

organ transplant. I'm wondering if you have any more info or ideas

on how to impact a variety of people in their 30-50's? I'd love to

have them all whip out their driver's licenses and sign the back as

the finale to the talk.

Thanks for any ideas you have.

Erna T

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