Re: Has anyone tried fasting for arthritis or researched food alergies causing it?

[Guest guest]

I was reviewing some of the latest and greatest understandings of how diet,

specifically deficiencies in the primary electrolytes (Mg, Ca, K, Na), may

contribute or cause the initial cascade of inflammation directly leading to

coronary artery plaque. This theory downplays cholesterol, but maintains that

the presence of a virus of bacteria kicks in the infection and the repair goes

awry without adequate magnesium (and therefore trouble follows with vitamin D,

Ca, K, etc). There is now a growing belief that it starts with a Mg (once

prevalent in the soil and in our diets) deficiency, which is needed for many

other reactions in the body, including normal cellular maintenance and repair.

Mg itself is a co-factor and responsible for the function of 325 enzymes; is an

absolute requirement for calcium to be incorporated into bone; keeps toxic

chemicals out of the brain; couples with calcium to create nerve impulses and

muscle impulses; keeps muscles relaxed, including the heart and blood vessels,

and triggers dozens of known health conditions if it is measurably deficient.

The control of these electrolytes in and out of our cells and our blood is known

to take up nearly half of all our resting energy requirements. That tells me how

important our bodies treat the balancing of these cations and how critical

electrolyte balance is to normal cell functions. Regarding the role of these

cations in the formation of coronary plaque, I do not know if it is all true,

though if so, clearly the condition could be addressed through diet and/or

supplementation.

While looking at this, I saw similar articles from studies looking at the

relationship between Mg and K and arthritis. Some again specifically pointing

to Mg deficiency as a cause, some citing it as a contribution factor in the

body's ability to control inflammation and repair tissue damage. Again, I do

not if these theories are true, though some specific correlations have been

established (maybe it's the horse vs cart argument) between the joint

inflammation process and Mg deficiency.

For certain though, fasting will upset that electrolyte balance on day one. The

kidneys continue to filter and excrete and since you would not be replacing,

cells at some point will be stressed and presto!....more inflammation, increased

BP, etc. I wonder if this could itself hinder or interfere with pinpointing the

presence of a particular allergy. Maybe not.

I think the author tosses in some other options (i.e. meditation) if the fasting

fails.......an editor would not have tolerated all her eggs in the same basket.

Jeff

rheumatic

From: jamesapetty@...

Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:38:16 +0000

Subject: rheumatic Has anyone tried fasting for arthritis or researched food

alergies causing it?

I bought a book called Conquering Arthritis by Barbara Allan

Overall I'm disappointed with the amount of material in the book but

the author had arthritis and found it's cause to be related to her

food allergies.

She recommends fasting and then slowly introducing food back into your

diet to figure out what might be causing you to react, thus causing

arthritis.

I guess I am having a hard time believing arthritis is caused by food

allergies after reading Henry Scammell. It sounds plausible to me for

a minority % of arthritis sufferers but not everyone.

Has anyone found arthritis to be directly linked to being

sensative/allergic to certain foods? I'm thinking of trying the fast

to see how I feel, she claims you will feel dramatically better after

the fast of 5-7 days. However she doesn't address what to do if you

do not feel better hehe.

Any thoughts you guys have before I try the fast would be greatly

appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

My experience is that certain foods just make everything MUCH worse

including RA. Granted, it seems likely that I have an extreme version

of this, whereas most others may have this in shades of gray.

Personally, I do not believe you need to fast. I think you can go a

week using foods that I do to get back into a better 'state'. What it

means is that certain foods are hard on the digestive tract & the body

is not able to process them well. It's like a person with celiac.

Therefore, one easy way I do this is to eat ONLY predigested rice

protein (daily), fish, chicken, potato or rice, gluten-free

bread/cereal, vegetables, fruit, almond or rice milk, bits of butter,

oil, seasonings.

I use vits & minerals. But also, I take a morning blend of free-form

amino's that seem to help to improve brain function. These things work

well to enhance the diet effect, and do not work at all if I do not do

the diet. Also, I've been using r-alpha lipoic acid to help manage

appetite & cravings. This also helps other nutrients to be better

utilized in the mitochondria.

Having said all this, I think RA results from a variety of conditions.

Not only food. Other things such as hormonal imbalance, mineral

imbalance are associated with myalgia. It's just that in my case, food

is definitely a piece of how I feel.

Amy

Petty wrote:

>

> I bought a book called Conquering Arthritis by Barbara Allan

>

> Overall I'm disappointed with the amount of material in the book but

> the author had arthritis and found it's cause to be related to her

> food allergies.

>

> She recommends fasting and then slowly introducing food back into your

> diet to figure out what might be causing you to react, thus causing

> arthritis.

>

> I guess I am having a hard time believing arthritis is caused by food

> allergies after reading Henry Scammell. It sounds plausible to me for

> a minority % of arthritis sufferers but not everyone.

>

> Has anyone found arthritis to be directly linked to being

> sensative/allergic to certain foods? I'm thinking of trying the fast

> to see how I feel, she claims you will feel dramatically better after

> the fast of 5-7 days. However she doesn't address what to do if you

> do not feel better hehe.

>

> Any thoughts you guys have before I try the fast would be greatly

> appreciated.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

 

I thought diet may be effecting my AS.  I read Scala's book " The New

Arthritis Diet " and initially felt better.  The book is basic,easy to read and

understand. I also went to an allergist who said " statistically there are no

proven facts relating diet to arthritis " also said " that doesn't mean there is

no relationship, just not statistically proven, you know yourself best " . I keep

a food diary and have noticed some foods do cause flair ups. I live in a cold

climate and the fall and spring have always been the worst time for pain, so

it's difficult to determine if the diet is really helping me with this cold,

damp weather. Overall the diet is a healthier one so I will stay on it.  Am

going to rheumatologist in two weeks to discuss AP.  I've tried the typical road

map the Dr's. lay out and I haven't been helped.

 

Grade yourself with your diet, I recommend a food diary. You may find subtle or

great improvements.  I hope it helps.

 

Deb

From: Petty <jamesapetty@...>

Subject: rheumatic Has anyone tried fasting for arthritis or researched food

allergies causing it?

rheumatic

Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 4:38 AM

I bought a book called Conquering Arthritis by Barbara Allan

Overall I'm disappointed with the amount of material in the book but

the author had arthritis and found it's cause to be related to her

food allergies.

She recommends fasting and then slowly introducing food back into your

diet to figure out what might be causing you to react, thus causing

arthritis.

I guess I am having a hard time believing arthritis is caused by food

allergies after reading Henry Scammell. It sounds plausible to me for

a minority % of arthritis sufferers but not everyone.

Has anyone found arthritis to be directly linked to being

sensative/allergic to certain foods? I'm thinking of trying the fast

to see how I feel, she claims you will feel dramatically better after

the fast of 5-7 days. However she doesn't address what to do if you

do not feel better hehe.

Any thoughts you guys have before I try the fast would be greatly

appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi, :

Foods can cause SEVERE arthritis, and I had symptoms so severe that I KNEW it

could not be 'arthritis;' it just had to be bone cancer or something more severe

than just arthritis--all caused by the wrong foods!

I have AS and not RA, but I fasted 20 days once and achieved very

lasting remission.  I was not able to explain why at that time, but

only years later learned about Professor Ebringer's work that also

explained why my arthritis came back, eventually.  Now I have been

essentially AS-symptom free for almost ten years.

Certainly, I have fasted many times to help eliminate symptoms, but 20 days was

my longest stretch.  It was starches in my diet that exacerbated my AS.

Good luck with it,

From: Petty <jamesapetty@...>

Subject: rheumatic Has anyone tried fasting for arthritis or researched food

alergies causing it?

rheumatic

Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 1:38 AM

I bought a book called Conquering Arthritis by Barbara Allan

Overall I'm disappointed with the amount of material in the book but

the author had arthritis and found it's cause to be related to her

food allergies.

She recommends fasting and then slowly introducing food back into your

diet to figure out what might be causing you to react, thus causing

arthritis.

I guess I am having a hard time believing arthritis is caused by food

allergies after reading Henry Scammell. It sounds plausible to me for

a minority % of arthritis sufferers but not everyone.

Has anyone found arthritis to be directly linked to being

sensative/allergic to certain foods? I'm thinking of trying the fast

to see how I feel, she claims you will feel dramatically better after

the fast of 5-7 days. However she doesn't address what to do if you

do not feel better hehe.

Any thoughts you guys have before I try the fast would be greatly

appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info . I am starting my fast today. One thing

that doesn't make sense at all to me in this book is she lists

nightshades such as tomatoes and potatoes as being very common foods

that cause arthritis symptoms.

Yet she specifically suggests using potatoes, cabbage, and carrots for

a broth to drink daily while fasting.

If potatoes are so allergenic why would she have people drinking them

in broth form everyday? According to her book it's because arthritis

makes you very acidic and potatoes help counter that but it just

doesn't make sense to me.

Anyone out there see something I don't?

>

> Hi, :

>

>

> Foods can cause SEVERE arthritis, and I had symptoms so severe that

I KNEW it could not be 'arthritis;' it just had to be bone cancer or

something more severe than just arthritis--all caused by the wrong foods!

>

>

> I have AS and not RA, but I fasted 20 days once and achieved very

> lasting remission.  I was not able to explain why at that time, but

> only years later learned about Professor Ebringer's work that also

> explained why my arthritis came back, eventually.  Now I have been

> essentially AS-symptom free for almost ten years.

>

> Certainly, I have fasted many times to help eliminate symptoms, but

20 days was my longest stretch.  It was starches in my diet that

exacerbated my AS.

>

> Good luck with it,

>

>