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Bev, and everyone

no, brandon is not doing well . today the dr called and after seeing him

today and how labored his breathing is now, she was ordering blood gases to

be tested, his co2 level is above 40% in which a child his age/weight/height

should only be 15-20% . so the tranfer in his lungs are not properly

working, and that is another reason his breathing is like this.

his lungs are in worse shape than before , when we went to st louis.

she told us to get the ball rolling for transplant.

my husband made some calls today, north carolina and pittsburgh.(i think

thats all) before when we were looking into it, we felt it would be a few

years down the road, well it will be sooner .

with brandon not doing his treatments as he should, thats not what is

causing this.

its the whole big picture.

we have no idea what will happen tomorrow.

dr said he will be in hospital for 3 weeks now. 7/21/01 long way away.

i have missed so much time at work, but they say if i need the time i can

go.

thanks everyone.

chris

On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:14:52 -0400, cfparents wrote:

> After reading this second post, I realized isn't doing as well as

> may be, so will be thinking about him and hope this will work well for

him

> as he starts repair:):) and complies with his routine that's necessary

to

> stay well. Best of all to you all,

> LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV

>

> brandon update

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but he

is

> still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

gets

> off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't handle

> being off of it.

>

> his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

he

> is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not like

> his chest hurting like that.

>

> finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

treatments.

> i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

himself

> did it though.

>

> but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

will

> see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

>

> he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> that " normal " kid better go away.

>

> thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making so

> many mistakes.

>

> on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

worse

> shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> he won't be home until the 12th.

>

> thanks everyone.

>

> chris

> mom of 3

> brandon 12 yrs w cf

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

> Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

>

>

>

>

> PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

>

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> --------------------------------------------------

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Bev, and everyone

no, brandon is not doing well . today the dr called and after seeing him

today and how labored his breathing is now, she was ordering blood gases to

be tested, his co2 level is above 40% in which a child his age/weight/height

should only be 15-20% . so the tranfer in his lungs are not properly

working, and that is another reason his breathing is like this.

his lungs are in worse shape than before , when we went to st louis.

she told us to get the ball rolling for transplant.

my husband made some calls today, north carolina and pittsburgh.(i think

thats all) before when we were looking into it, we felt it would be a few

years down the road, well it will be sooner .

with brandon not doing his treatments as he should, thats not what is

causing this.

its the whole big picture.

we have no idea what will happen tomorrow.

dr said he will be in hospital for 3 weeks now. 7/21/01 long way away.

i have missed so much time at work, but they say if i need the time i can

go.

thanks everyone.

chris

On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:14:52 -0400, cfparents wrote:

> After reading this second post, I realized isn't doing as well as

> may be, so will be thinking about him and hope this will work well for

him

> as he starts repair:):) and complies with his routine that's necessary

to

> stay well. Best of all to you all,

> LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV

>

> brandon update

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but he

is

> still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

gets

> off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't handle

> being off of it.

>

> his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

he

> is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not like

> his chest hurting like that.

>

> finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

treatments.

> i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

himself

> did it though.

>

> but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

will

> see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

>

> he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> that " normal " kid better go away.

>

> thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making so

> many mistakes.

>

> on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

worse

> shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> he won't be home until the 12th.

>

> thanks everyone.

>

> chris

> mom of 3

> brandon 12 yrs w cf

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

> Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

>

>

>

>

> PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

>

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

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I am so sorry to hear this.It is sooooo hard to see your precious little one

soooo sick and not be able to " make it all better " ....When you were

mentioning TX ctrs. I know your trying to be the closet , etc., BUT

Al -Birmingham has a great one too. In fact Florida has several. The One in

Gainesville at Shands Hospital is excellent & has a good record too. Many of

my friends have had theirs at that one. Also in AL.

several on this list had their TX in AL. Burroughs, Summer Katz, &

more. The docs are getting very capable and used to doing this surgery now

and they move about & teach each other as well. I think you can possibly be

listed at two places --check that out. I wasn't aware of that and someone

mentioned that to me at a meeting. I hadn't heard that before..at least not

listed at the same time ...........But

that sure would up his waiting time. Check It out.. i have a booklet that

was used for patients in San Diego preparing for TX. what happens, what

meds, etc. If you would like , I will send one to you . But I need your

mailing address.

Love & Hugs,

GrandmomBEV

xoxoxoxoxoxox

brandon update

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but he

is

> still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

gets

> off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't handle

> being off of it.

>

> his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

he

> is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not like

> his chest hurting like that.

>

> finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

treatments.

> i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

himself

> did it though.

>

> but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

will

> see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

>

> he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> that " normal " kid better go away.

>

> thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making so

> many mistakes.

>

> on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

worse

> shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> he won't be home until the 12th.

>

> thanks everyone.

>

> chris

> mom of 3

> brandon 12 yrs w cf

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

> Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

>

>

>

>

> PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

>

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

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I am so sorry to hear this.It is sooooo hard to see your precious little one

soooo sick and not be able to " make it all better " ....When you were

mentioning TX ctrs. I know your trying to be the closet , etc., BUT

Al -Birmingham has a great one too. In fact Florida has several. The One in

Gainesville at Shands Hospital is excellent & has a good record too. Many of

my friends have had theirs at that one. Also in AL.

several on this list had their TX in AL. Burroughs, Summer Katz, &

more. The docs are getting very capable and used to doing this surgery now

and they move about & teach each other as well. I think you can possibly be

listed at two places --check that out. I wasn't aware of that and someone

mentioned that to me at a meeting. I hadn't heard that before..at least not

listed at the same time ...........But

that sure would up his waiting time. Check It out.. i have a booklet that

was used for patients in San Diego preparing for TX. what happens, what

meds, etc. If you would like , I will send one to you . But I need your

mailing address.

Love & Hugs,

GrandmomBEV

xoxoxoxoxoxox

brandon update

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but he

is

> still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

gets

> off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't handle

> being off of it.

>

> his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

he

> is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not like

> his chest hurting like that.

>

> finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

treatments.

> i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

himself

> did it though.

>

> but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

will

> see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

>

> he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> that " normal " kid better go away.

>

> thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making so

> many mistakes.

>

> on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

worse

> shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> he won't be home until the 12th.

>

> thanks everyone.

>

> chris

> mom of 3

> brandon 12 yrs w cf

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

> Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

>

>

>

>

> PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

>

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

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I am so sorry to hear this.It is sooooo hard to see your precious little one

soooo sick and not be able to " make it all better " ....When you were

mentioning TX ctrs. I know your trying to be the closet , etc., BUT

Al -Birmingham has a great one too. In fact Florida has several. The One in

Gainesville at Shands Hospital is excellent & has a good record too. Many of

my friends have had theirs at that one. Also in AL.

several on this list had their TX in AL. Burroughs, Summer Katz, &

more. The docs are getting very capable and used to doing this surgery now

and they move about & teach each other as well. I think you can possibly be

listed at two places --check that out. I wasn't aware of that and someone

mentioned that to me at a meeting. I hadn't heard that before..at least not

listed at the same time ...........But

that sure would up his waiting time. Check It out.. i have a booklet that

was used for patients in San Diego preparing for TX. what happens, what

meds, etc. If you would like , I will send one to you . But I need your

mailing address.

Love & Hugs,

GrandmomBEV

xoxoxoxoxoxox

brandon update

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but he

is

> still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

gets

> off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't handle

> being off of it.

>

> his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

he

> is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not like

> his chest hurting like that.

>

> finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

treatments.

> i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

himself

> did it though.

>

> but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

will

> see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

>

> he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> that " normal " kid better go away.

>

> thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making so

> many mistakes.

>

> on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

worse

> shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> he won't be home until the 12th.

>

> thanks everyone.

>

> chris

> mom of 3

> brandon 12 yrs w cf

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

> Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

>

>

>

>

> PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

>

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

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Just read this one. I'm sorry 's not doing that good. Is there any

chance it will improve? I don't know much about the technical side of

transplants but know about 8 people that have had them and all except one is

doing well. I really hope that if he does need it you'll find some terrific

doctor to do it. I remember you mentioning that's it's not centralities

like it is here and you were looking around. Do you have to find your own

hsp. to do it or will the clinic sort that out?

brandon update

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but

he

> is

> > still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

> gets

> > off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't

handle

> > being off of it.

> >

> > his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> > he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

> he

> > is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not

like

> > his chest hurting like that.

> >

> > finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

> treatments.

> > i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

> himself

> > did it though.

> >

> > but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

> will

> > see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

> >

> > he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> > though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> > enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> > that " normal " kid better go away.

> >

> > thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making

so

> > many mistakes.

> >

> > on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

> worse

> > shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> > he won't be home until the 12th.

> >

> > thanks everyone.

> >

> > chris

> > mom of 3

> > brandon 12 yrs w cf

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________________________________

> > Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------------

> >

> >

> > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> > IN NO WAY

> > be construed as medical advice.

> >

> > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

> TREATMENTS.

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

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Just read this one. I'm sorry 's not doing that good. Is there any

chance it will improve? I don't know much about the technical side of

transplants but know about 8 people that have had them and all except one is

doing well. I really hope that if he does need it you'll find some terrific

doctor to do it. I remember you mentioning that's it's not centralities

like it is here and you were looking around. Do you have to find your own

hsp. to do it or will the clinic sort that out?

brandon update

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > well talked with the dr and they say he is getting better slowly but

he

> is

> > still on oxygen, 3 litres but he can get off of it if he feels ok. he

> gets

> > off for about 20 minutes and then back on for an hour or so. can't

handle

> > being off of it.

> >

> > his dr came back from vacation and he got an ear full from her.

> > he finally said he has learned his lesson. he will do his treatment as

> he

> > is suppose to do. he said he likes to be able to breath and did not

like

> > his chest hurting like that.

> >

> > finally he is getting it out of his head he can't slack on doing

> treatments.

> > i guess mom and dad telling him wasn't good enough. almost killing

> himself

> > did it though.

> >

> > but he say he's learned, after 1 or so of us telling him. i guess we

> will

> > see after he comes home and in his normal routine.

> >

> > he has to learn on his own, we can't be right next to him forever even

> > though we try we can't be. and he is old enough to now better and wise

> > enough to now better but that " normal " kid wants out.

> > that " normal " kid better go away.

> >

> > thanks torsten, i have so many things going on and i have been making

so

> > many mistakes.

> >

> > on monday they will do pft's and we will find out if his lungs are in

> worse

> > shape or if did any damage. hope they are ok.

> > he won't be home until the 12th.

> >

> > thanks everyone.

> >

> > chris

> > mom of 3

> > brandon 12 yrs w cf

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________________________________

> > Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------------

> >

> >

> > The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> > IN NO WAY

> > be construed as medical advice.

> >

> > PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

> TREATMENTS.

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Bev,

Can you tell me what a live donor is re;cf. In Australia they do

transplants in Melbourne and the person who needs it wears a beeper and they

get the ambulance plane to take them there. All within a couple of hours

from beeper sounding to the op. starts. I'm thankful they are so good her

with transplants and I really hope gets a great doctor.

update

>

>

> bev,

> when we were in st louis, we learned ALOT. saometimes i think to much

> when you list and it gets close to the time, you must move there so i

don't

> see how you can be listed in 2 different cities. who knows?

> we figured we would like to stay on the east coast side but if we must we

> would go wherever.

> we still have the info from st louis.

> thanks for the info.

>

> chris

>

> On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 20:37:55 -0400, cfparents wrote:

>

> > I am so sorry to hear this.It is sooooo hard to see your precious

little

> one

> > soooo sick and not be able to " make it all better " ....When you were

> > mentioning TX ctrs. I know your trying to be the closet , etc., BUT

> > Al -Birmingham has a great one too. In fact Florida has several. The

One

> in

> > Gainesville at Shands Hospital is excellent & has a good record too.

Many

> of

> > my friends have had theirs at that one. Also in AL.

> > several on this list had their TX in AL. Burroughs, Summer Katz, &

> > more. The docs are getting very capable and used to doing this surgery

> now

> > and they move about & teach each other as well. I think you can

possibly

> be

> > listed at two places --check that out. I wasn't aware of that and

someone

> > mentioned that to me at a meeting. I hadn't heard that before..at

least

> not

> > listed at the same time ...........But

> > that sure would up his waiting time. Check It out.. i have a booklet

that

> > was used for patients in San Diego preparing for TX. what happens, what

> > meds, etc. If you would like , I will send one to you . But I need your

> > mailing address.

> >

> > Love & Hugs,

> > GrandmomBEV

> > xoxoxoxoxoxox

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

> Send a cool gift with your E-Card

> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

>

>

>

>

> PLEASE do not post religious emails to the list.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

>

> The opinions and information exchanged on this list should

> IN NO WAY

> be construed as medical advice.

>

> PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

TREATMENTS.

>

> --------------------------------------------------

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yes, that was pretty much what I was saying in my post about not having to

live at all the TX places all the time , or at least not until the time when

you are close to top on list.

A live donor is when someone else donated their organ(lobes) to the person

with CF. It has been done here a great deal and VERY successful. As I

mentioned in my post , I have 2 such gals in my support group. BOTH doing

very nicely. Kristi had a lobe from her mum & her dad..That was 9 years ago

..She was the 4th in the world. Dr Starnes did her's in CA, USA. Sheryl had

hers done 4 years ago (in Ca too), and she received lobes from her brother &

her sister.All parties involved had no side effects or pull down in their

health . As I mentioned in that post both gals are doing really well. . It

is done here in USA quite often.With great success. Nothing is 100 % but

sure beats not having one when you need it:):):)

happy weekend to you and great health ahead

LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV

Re: update

Bev,

Can you tell me what a live donor is re;cf. In Australia they do

transplants in Melbourne and the person who needs it wears a beeper and they

get the ambulance plane to take them there. All within a couple of hours

from beeper sounding to the op. starts. I'm thankful they are so good her

with transplants and I really hope gets a great doctor.

update

>

>

> bev,

> when we were in st louis, we learned ALOT. saometimes i think to much

> when you list and it gets close to the time, you must move there so i

don't

> see how you can be listed in 2 different cities. who knows?

> we figured we would like to stay on the east coast side but if we must we

> would go wherever.

> we still have the info from st louis.

> thanks for the info.

>

> chris

>

> On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 20:37:55 -0400, cfparents wrote:

>

> > I am so sorry to hear this.It is sooooo hard to see your precious

little

> one

> > soooo sick and not be able to " make it all better " ....When you were

> > mentioning TX ctrs. I know your trying to be the closet , etc., BUT

> > Al -Birmingham has a great one too. In fact Florida has several. The

One

> in

> > Gainesville at Shands Hospital is excellent & has a good record too.

Many

> of

> > my friends have had theirs at that one. Also in AL.

> > several on this list had their TX in AL. Burroughs, Summer Katz, &

> > more. The docs are getting very capable and used to doing this surgery

> now

> > and they move about & teach each other as well. I think you can

possibly

> be

> > listed at two places --check that out. I wasn't aware of that and

someone

> > mentioned that to me at a meeting. I hadn't heard that before..at

least

> not

> > listed at the same time ...........But

> > that sure would up his waiting time. Check It out.. i have a booklet

that

> > was used for patients in San Diego preparing for TX. what happens, what

> > meds, etc. If you would like , I will send one to you . But I need your

> > mailing address.

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I'm so sorry that isn't doing better. I know it has to be

nervewracking for you. Just want you to know that I am thinking of

and you and your husband.

Hang in there!

a

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Hang in there Ken!!!! My kids got a rash when they got strep. It wasn't from the

medicine, it was the strep coming out through the skin. If you look it up on

Medline, they will tell you that sometimes a rash comes with strep throat!

(Sorry about that, but maybe it is not your medicine!)

Storm will probably be starting Gh soon. (We are waiting on the insurance to

approve it. We were told it should take 6 to 8 weeks.)

Carmen

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Ken,

I had that problem in January. I had an allergic reaction to the

antibiotic which caused me to break out in hives from top to bottom.

Try an oatmeal bath, it does help with the itching. Hope you solve

your housing/school problems soon. Hang in there.

Judith, Steve, (RSS) and (non RSS) 25 mo twins

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Gosh Ken when it rains it pours. I really admire you and your wife's

willingness to move to another school district to benefit your son.

It's a shame that we have to take such drastic measures in this great

country of ours.... Good luck and keep on fighting!

F.

> Hi everyone,

>

> had a pedo endo visti yesterday and so I thought this was a

good

> time to give an update.

>

> mentioned that she had received some advice about not

waiting

> for the other shoe to drop. Well, for us at the moment it is

raining

> shoes. Anybody need some size 16 sneakers?

>

> First, if anyone needs to put their child in an environment where

> there is a lot of talking, send them to my wife. She never stops. I

> can't seem to find the off switch. Any suggestions?

>

>

> Well back to .

>

> Our school troubles continue. 's private preschool has

basically

> said they cannot meet our sons needs and have told us to not bring

him

> back in September. I'm glad they told us this 2 days after we gave

> them our nonrefundable deposit (We did get it back). They also said

he

> should repeat preschool. We have had a couple of educational

> evaluations done since and both have said without hesitation, he

> should be in kindergarten next year. He is at or slightly beyond

where

> he needs to be for kindergarten. His socialization problems come

> mostly from him being an only child.

>

> Given that 's current preschool doesn't want him back in

> September, We have decide to switch him to another private

preschool

> for the rest of this term and for the summer. We have already

enrolled

> him. went for a tour with my wife. He loved it there. While

my

> wife was filling out forms, he spent 45 minutes on the play ground

> playing hide and seek and tag. Something he would never do at his

> current school. He hardly socialized at all at his current school.

>

> We have also talked to a couple of educational advocates and

learned

> that our city has a terrible track record with all kids, especially

> special needs children. They said the schools in our city have a

long

> history of pushing all kids on to the next grade and getting them

out

> of the system as fast as possible while doing as little as possible

> with special needs kids. Right now the schools are having a

terrible

> time with kids showing up in high school who can't read and can't

pass

> the new mandatory standardized testing. We have been advised by at

> least 2 advocates to move. So we are now getting ready to put our

> house up for sale. We have narrowed our search down to 3 towns. The

> best school system is in a very upscale town where the basic home

sits

> on 2+ acres and is about 3000 to 4000 sq ft. Basically 1/2 to 1

> million dollar homes. We think we can afford a tent there or maybe

> even a double wide trailer ( if they let it cross the town line).

We

> maybe able to get into that school system through a backdoor. A

> neighboring town is too small to have its own school system. So all

> the kids there go to the schools in this very wealthy town. So we

can

> move there ( way out in the woods of NH ) and get our son into this

> school system. We are still investigating this and considering if

we

> want to live in such a remote area.

>

> Yesterday, we took to his pedo endo. Developmentally he is

right

> on track. He still needs speech, and o/t and maybe p/t. Howver, he

has

> lost almost a pound and a half since we took him off periactin in

mid

> December. His height is still right on track for the 5th percentile

> but his weight is falling off. So we are going to give him a month

> more to see if recovers some of his weight. If not then we will

start

> back on the periactin for lunch. If that doesn't work then his

doctor

> admitted she is stumped since his height seems to be fine (

projected

> adult height of 5 ft. 2 " or better). So maybe then we can start

growth

> hormone.

>

> Last, unrelated to , about amonth ago I had strep throat. I

was

> given some antibiotics. A week ago I developed a rash. Sunday, my

> strep came back. I went to the doctor again. He confirmed, yes I

have

> strep again but I got the bonus version. I am having an allergic

> reaction to antibiotics. He gave me a different antibiotic but it

is

> making my rash even worse. At this rate I should be just one big

red

> scab by the end of the week. Also, I am getting real tired of

chicken

> noodle soup and flat gingerale.

>

> Well, that is about all for now. If you really need to get in touch

> with me, just call Davy Crocket. He was a pretty good woodsman. He

> should be able to find us. -- just kidding

>

> Ken M

> :)

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Hi Carmen,

Thanks for info on strep and a rash. I too looked it up and thought

the same thing. I discussed it with my doctor. The rash started 14

days after I was off the antibiotics. He said that is when an

allergic reaction to antibiotics shows up 14 to 21 days after

stopping the medication. I had this rash over a week before my

strep throat returned. Now as I take more antibiotics, the rash is

getting worse. So I am pretty convinced this reash is

medication induced.

Good Luck with your insurance company. I hope you get a speedy

approval.

Ken M

:)

> Hang in there Ken!!!! My kids got a rash when they got strep. It

wasn't from the medicine, it was the strep coming out through the

skin. If you look it up on Medline, they will tell you that sometimes

a rash comes with strep throat! (Sorry about that, but maybe it is not

your medicine!)

> Storm will probably be starting Gh soon. (We are waiting on the

insurance to approve it. We were told it should take 6 to 8 weeks.)

> Carmen

>

>

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Ken,

I hope your rash clears up soon...and that you can get over this strep. Yikes,

it's probably hard to tell which problem is the worst one to have! You sure

have had quite a wild ride for the past bit, and it sounds like with the

potential move it will be awhile before life settles down. is so lucky to

have you & Janet as parents - relocating to get him into the best school

situation possible is something many people wouldn't / couldn't do for their

child.

We are in the midst of Charissa's 3-year review of continuing her IEP. The

meeting is going to be next Thursday. I was nervous for a bit - the school

psych was reporting to me the scores of the testing & it was a bit higher than I

expected. I thought she was scoring barely too high to qualify. But evidently

her " other health impared " designation...and the testimony of the 4 teachers

that work with her...was enough to keep her in the program. I'm not fooled

though - I'm going in armed with lots of info on specific accomodations I want

put in this time. No more of this " other accomodations as needed " stuff tacked

on to a couple of specifics! I've found that some of the teachers need to see

it detailed in the IEP or they won't make any adjustments. I know that you can

relate!

Chris

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Ken,

I hope your rash clears up soon...and that you can get over this strep. Yikes,

it's probably hard to tell which problem is the worst one to have! You sure

have had quite a wild ride for the past bit, and it sounds like with the

potential move it will be awhile before life settles down. is so lucky to

have you & Janet as parents - relocating to get him into the best school

situation possible is something many people wouldn't / couldn't do for their

child.

We are in the midst of Charissa's 3-year review of continuing her IEP. The

meeting is going to be next Thursday. I was nervous for a bit - the school

psych was reporting to me the scores of the testing & it was a bit higher than I

expected. I thought she was scoring barely too high to qualify. But evidently

her " other health impared " designation...and the testimony of the 4 teachers

that work with her...was enough to keep her in the program. I'm not fooled

though - I'm going in armed with lots of info on specific accomodations I want

put in this time. No more of this " other accomodations as needed " stuff tacked

on to a couple of specifics! I've found that some of the teachers need to see

it detailed in the IEP or they won't make any adjustments. I know that you can

relate!

Chris

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Ken,

The Pharmacia pen is sooooo easy to use!! and are both using

the Pharmacia pens and it has been a breeze!! Much easier to use than the

epi-pens for allergy reactions and gentler to the body. Post later and let us

know about the training.

This will definitely be a Kodak moment - don't forget your camera. It's amazing

to look back at 's face when she received her first injection - compared

to now - she can inject herself and not flinch. will eventually get to

that point.

Donna

kmerrith wrote: Hi everyone,

I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of stuff.

If it not work related it is blocked.

Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on Tuesday. It

was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one in

Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and Rhode

Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes with

's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a half

to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the Harvard

Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey Clinic (

to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to give

his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just love

drug and insurance companies.

We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying " You're

not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is going to

be fun.

I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access to

the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

nights again.

Ken M

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Ken,

I'll be thinking of you on Tuesday. Too bad you aren't closer to Debby B. in

Canada, I can just picture under the table or bed saying " NO SHOTS! "

joined by Adam (who was there not that long ago) who could coax him out!!!

That is amazing that nobody at any of those prestegious medical centers is

authorized to teach you to use the pen! Maybe you can now be their official

trainer there...it could be the start of a new career for you. It might pay

well (since nobody else can do it)...hey, this could be the answer to you being

able to afford that nice house in the good school district.(lol!)

(Charissa's mom)

> Subject: update

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

> company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

> sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

> bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

> They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of stuff.

> If it not work related it is blocked.

>

> Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on Tuesday. It

> was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one in

> Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and Rhode

> Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes with

> 's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

> hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a half

> to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the Harvard

> Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

> children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

> Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey Clinic (

> to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to give

> his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just love

> drug and insurance companies.

>

> We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying " You're

> not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is going to

> be fun.

>

> I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access to

> the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

> nights again.

>

> Ken M

> :)

>

>

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Ken,

I'll be thinking of you on Tuesday. Too bad you aren't closer to Debby B. in

Canada, I can just picture under the table or bed saying " NO SHOTS! "

joined by Adam (who was there not that long ago) who could coax him out!!!

That is amazing that nobody at any of those prestegious medical centers is

authorized to teach you to use the pen! Maybe you can now be their official

trainer there...it could be the start of a new career for you. It might pay

well (since nobody else can do it)...hey, this could be the answer to you being

able to afford that nice house in the good school district.(lol!)

(Charissa's mom)

> Subject: update

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

> company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

> sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

> bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

> They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of stuff.

> If it not work related it is blocked.

>

> Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on Tuesday. It

> was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one in

> Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and Rhode

> Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes with

> 's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

> hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a half

> to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the Harvard

> Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

> children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

> Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey Clinic (

> to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to give

> his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just love

> drug and insurance companies.

>

> We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying " You're

> not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is going to

> be fun.

>

> I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access to

> the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

> nights again.

>

> Ken M

> :)

>

>

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Oh boy, Ken, double whammy. I know how much you used to do for this

listserve while at work. If you have to do it at night at home,

Janet may get a wee bit PO'ed...... And now and his " I am NOT

going to get shots " . I'm telling you. Shots at night while they are

asleep has worked like a charm for us!!!

HEE HEE. I think it has simply become easier for me, than easier for

. She takes them just fine now while she is awake. But

trying to add her shot in to the bedtime chaos of teeth brushing,

etc. -- not for now. 2 hours later, after I have rested, is just

fine for me!!!!

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

> company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

> sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

> bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

> They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of stuff.

> If it not work related it is blocked.

>

> Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on Tuesday. It

> was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one in

> Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and Rhode

> Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes with

> 's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

> hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a half

> to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the Harvard

> Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

> children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

> Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey Clinic (

> to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to give

> his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just love

> drug and insurance companies.

>

> We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying " You're

> not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is going

to

> be fun.

>

> I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access to

> the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

> nights again.

>

> Ken M

> :)

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Ken,

We got a nice little training video with our Humatrope pen that

explains pretty well how to load it and use it. Actually, we didn't

even watch it until this past weekend. We've been giving

the shots for 2 weeks, but they're pretty straight-forward. This

weekend we had to re-load the pen with a new cartridge, so we

decided to watch the video first. It was pretty thorough, except for

one thing. It assumes you're starting with a brand new pen, but

we've already used ours for one cartridge. When we took the old

one off, there was this long metal screw sticking out of the pen

(which advances the " plunger " each time you give a new shot).

Nowhere in the training video or the nice color brochure that we

got with the pen do they explain how to retract that screw!

However we finally figured it out: there's a blue release button

you have to press, then you turn the dosage knob backwards

until the screw is completely retracted, THEN you install the new

cartridge.

I'd offer to loan you the video, but it sounds like you're using a

different pen. Maybe the drug company can send you one, if you

still haven't had someone come to train you.

As for saying he doesn't want the shots, I think you just

have to be firm about it. He's still too young to make his own

medical decisions. And I'll bet if he was old enough, he would

opt for the shots. Just think what you would say to him if he was

18 years old, less than 5 feet tall, and he asked you why you

didn't make him take the GH shots. (I'm not trying to put guilt on

anyone else on this list who decides against GH, just

suggesting you should be prepared to answer that question.)

Anyway, good luck with starting GH... tomorrow?!!! We'll say a

prayer for (and you and your wife!).

- Joe

PS- Gee, your company's web access policy is stricter than

mine, and I work for the Navy!

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

> company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

> sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

> bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

> They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of

stuff.

> If it not work related it is blocked.

>

> Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on Tuesday.

It

> was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one

in

> Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and Rhode

> Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes with

> 's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

> hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a

half

> to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the Harvard

> Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

> children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

> Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey

Clinic (

> to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to

give

> his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just

love

> drug and insurance companies.

>

> We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying " You're

> not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is going

to

> be fun.

>

> I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access

to

> the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

> nights again.

>

> Ken M

> :)

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Ken,

I understand that does not want these shots. He is probably

going to give you a big fight with it, too. I'd like to offer a few

suggestions that may help...

1-Let practice on a stuffed animal. He can do this after you

have given him his shot so you don't waste a precious needle.

2-Get to participate as much as you can. Let him choose the

site and wipe it with the alcohol swab. Don't forget to fan it with

your hand, or his, so the alcohol dries first.

3-Set up a sticker chart. Each night that gets his shot, give

him a sticker to add to his chart. When he reaches a certain

amount, like 7 'cause it's a week, then he can have a reward like a

trip for ice cream, or watching a special movie, or some other

pleasurable activity for him. You can also offer him a larger

reward when he gets up to 30 because that would represent a month.

This way he gets a small treat in a shorter period of time, but can

reach for the longer goal and be rewarded, too.

4-Remind that YOU are the parent and make the medical

decisions for him and this is what you have decided. Tell him that

you have to do this for at least three months and see if he grows -

to see that the medication is working. By the end of the three

months, he will be so used to it, it will not be a big deal anymore.

5-If all else fails, go the sleeping route. I don't think it's a

great idea to start out that way, but if after a period of time he

is really resisting, that may be your only choice. Also, I believe

it is okay to give the shots in the morning instead of at night.

Perhaps would be more agreeable in the morning when he is not

tired and cranky and wanting to go to bed.

If I can think of any other ideas, I'll let you know. I'm

recovering from oral surgery, so the Percocet is kicking in and I'm

not thinking too clearly. Don't even ask me about the pain. It's

just awful.

Jodi

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Ken,

I understand that does not want these shots. He is probably

going to give you a big fight with it, too. I'd like to offer a few

suggestions that may help...

1-Let practice on a stuffed animal. He can do this after you

have given him his shot so you don't waste a precious needle.

2-Get to participate as much as you can. Let him choose the

site and wipe it with the alcohol swab. Don't forget to fan it with

your hand, or his, so the alcohol dries first.

3-Set up a sticker chart. Each night that gets his shot, give

him a sticker to add to his chart. When he reaches a certain

amount, like 7 'cause it's a week, then he can have a reward like a

trip for ice cream, or watching a special movie, or some other

pleasurable activity for him. You can also offer him a larger

reward when he gets up to 30 because that would represent a month.

This way he gets a small treat in a shorter period of time, but can

reach for the longer goal and be rewarded, too.

4-Remind that YOU are the parent and make the medical

decisions for him and this is what you have decided. Tell him that

you have to do this for at least three months and see if he grows -

to see that the medication is working. By the end of the three

months, he will be so used to it, it will not be a big deal anymore.

5-If all else fails, go the sleeping route. I don't think it's a

great idea to start out that way, but if after a period of time he

is really resisting, that may be your only choice. Also, I believe

it is okay to give the shots in the morning instead of at night.

Perhaps would be more agreeable in the morning when he is not

tired and cranky and wanting to go to bed.

If I can think of any other ideas, I'll let you know. I'm

recovering from oral surgery, so the Percocet is kicking in and I'm

not thinking too clearly. Don't even ask me about the pain. It's

just awful.

Jodi

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Hi Joe,

Thanks for the advice.

I watched the video we got and the one thing they left out was

how to remove the old cartridge. they assume you are starting

with a brand new pen that is empty.

Actually, does good with shots. We shall see how well he

does on daily shot.

This is going to be " fun " .

I'll keep you posted as best I can. This internet blocking at work

is a real pain.

Ken M

:)

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

> > company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

> > sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

> > bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

> > They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of

> stuff.

> > If it not work related it is blocked.

> >

> > Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on

Tuesday.

> It

> > was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one

> in

> > Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and

Rhode

> > Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes

with

> > 's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

> > hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a

> half

> > to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the

Harvard

> > Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

> > children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

> > Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey

> Clinic (

> > to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to

> give

> > his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just

> love

> > drug and insurance companies.

> >

> > We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying

" You're

> > not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is

going

> to

> > be fun.

> >

> > I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access

> to

> > the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

> > nights again.

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

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Hi Joe,

Thanks for the advice.

I watched the video we got and the one thing they left out was

how to remove the old cartridge. they assume you are starting

with a brand new pen that is empty.

Actually, does good with shots. We shall see how well he

does on daily shot.

This is going to be " fun " .

I'll keep you posted as best I can. This internet blocking at work

is a real pain.

Ken M

:)

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I have been unable to access messages for a few days. The

> > company I work for is blocking access to " unauthorized " web

> > sites. So I can no longer acces the list from work and fix any

> > bouncing problems. A lot of people aat work are quite upset.

> > They can't get their web based e-mail and a whole bunch of

> stuff.

> > If it not work related it is blocked.

> >

> > Any way back to . He starts growth hormone on

Tuesday.

> It

> > was supposed to be yesterday but apparently there is no one

> in

> > Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusettes and

Rhode

> > Island who can train us in how to use the pen that comes

with

> > 's growth hormone. Some one has to drive from Ct ( 3

> > hours ) to Boston to train us. We have to drive an hour and a

> half

> > to meet them. I find it hard to believe that no one in the

Harvard

> > Medical School, Tufts University school of medicine, Boston

> > children's hospital, The New England Floating Hospital for

> > Children, Deaconess, Brigham and Women's, and Lahey

> Clinic (

> > to name a few ) knows how to use the Pen 5 and train us to

> give

> > his shot. Nope, not a soul according Pharmacia. I just

> love

> > drug and insurance companies.

> >

> > We have been trying to prepare . He keeps saying

" You're

> > not listening to my words. I don't want the shots. " This is

going

> to

> > be fun.

> >

> > I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Also, I hope to get access

> to

> > the list from work. Otherwise, I am going to have some late

> > nights again.

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

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