Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:48 AM, a K. Carlton wrote: > > However, I still have only moderate growth of good > bacteria and abundant growth of bacillus species, enterococcus species, and > Klebsiella species. I'm most intrigued by the Klebsiella, particularly if it's Klebsiella pneumoniae (Kp). Kp is indicted as an underlying cause for IBD and I can give you the whole theory if you don't already know it. What's your ailment and current symptoms? Kp feeds off particular branched polysaccharides. I assume you're on the SCD. How long and are you strict? -- Cheers, DF in MA UC June '07 SCD Nov '08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hi Doug, I'm not a, but am interested in your whole theory here, as I am not famaliar with it - I have Klebsiella pneumoniae overgrowth, and one of my sons has Klebsiella Oxytoca. I am interested in any info you can provide. Kind TIA for replying here - Kim in NJ, SBS due to bowel resection Feb 03 2 sons, almost 4, ADHD, SPD, leaky gut, klebsiella oxytoca & candida overgrowth All SCD Jan 1/09 > > > > However, I still have only moderate growth of good > > bacteria and abundant growth of bacillus species, enterococcus species, and > > Klebsiella species. > > I'm most intrigued by the Klebsiella, particularly if it's Klebsiella > pneumoniae (Kp). Kp is indicted as an underlying cause for IBD and I > can give you the whole theory if you don't already know it. What's > your ailment and current symptoms? > > Kp feeds off particular branched polysaccharides. I assume you're on > the SCD. How long and are you strict? > > -- > Cheers, > DF in MA > UC June '07 > SCD Nov '08 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 > The most bothersome symptom is abdominal distention - I literally look like I am pregnant - since 11/18/2008. It never goes away but definitely gets even worse after eating. I am also constipated but manage to have one bowel movement a day because I take magnesium citrate. I am gaining weight, too. And my food intolerances seem to have increased. Not to mention fatigue, headache, swollen eye lids, and more. > a WOW!!!! These are the exact same symptoms I have had since Thanksgiving when I ate broccoli. Some weeks are better but it's getting really bad. I have been strict SCD for 13 months and have had a few illegals on accident... NEVER on purpose. This is my current list of symptoms: * swollen abdomen, especially after eating * weight gain, but not out of control. actually, i'll gain from 124 to 130, go back down to 124, get back up to 130 all in a week's time. * swollen eyelids * water retention * extreme fatigue * constipation - i hardly have any bowels movements and i'm on elaine's C protocol. i can't take magnesium citrate because it makes me retain too much water and causes me to flare a little. i think i might have developed an intolerence to it at the beginning of the diet because i took it so much. * mild headaches, which i contributed to more caffeine intake * mild pain in my intestines * hemroid problems The fatigue is probably the thing that's plauging me the most right now. Without going to the doctor, does anyone know of a way to test for bacterial/yeast overgrowths. I can't afford the doctor let alone the tests i would need. Thanks, Misty Kimble cd - no meds scd - 13 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I forgot to add that I have had extreme dry mouth since all this started too. Thanks, Misty > > The most bothersome symptom is abdominal distention - I literally > look like I am pregnant - since 11/18/2008. It never goes away but > definitely gets even worse after eating. I am also constipated but > manage to have one bowel movement a day because I take magnesium > citrate. I am gaining weight, too. And my food intolerances seem to > have increased. Not to mention fatigue, headache, swollen eye lids, and > more. > > > a WOW!!!! These are the exact same symptoms I have had since Thanksgiving when I ate broccoli. Some weeks are better but it's getting really bad. I have been strict SCD for 13 months and have had a few illegals on accident... NEVER on purpose. This is my current list of symptoms: * swollen abdomen, especially after eating * weight gain, but not out of control. actually, i'll gain from 124 to 130, go back down to 124, get back up to 130 all in a week's time. * swollen eyelids * water retention * extreme fatigue * constipation - i hardly have any bowels movements and i'm on elaine's C protocol. i can't take magnesium citrate because it makes me retain too much water and causes me to flare a little. i think i might have developed an intolerence to it at the beginning of the diet because i took it so much. * mild headaches, which i contributed to more caffeine intake * mild pain in my intestines * hemroid problems The fatigue is probably the thing that's plauging me the most right now. Is there a home test to test for bacterial/yeast overgrowths. I can't afford the doctor let alone the tests i would need. Thanks, Misty Kimble cd - no meds scd - 13 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Doug, I'm also interested your knowledge of KP, so hope you will post to the group. My teenage son was found to have KP overgrowth through a Genova stool test. Genova tests sensitivity of the pathogens they found, and reported Cipro would work against it, along with natural agents that included Berberine, Oregano, Plant Tannins and Uva-Ursi, all of which showed mid range inhibition levels. Our holistic doctor recommended the Cipro and it worked really well in terms of decreasing frequency and firming up the stool. But my son has had C-diff issues, and after awhile, the doctor felt the Cipro may have been contributing to the C-diff recurring, so we stopped that. We are likely moving on to the natural agents at this point. Certainly interested to learn from you. Thank you. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Misty, can you tolerate any other forms of magnesium? A fellow SCDer who works at a health store recommended I take magnesium malate. I've also got some magnesium glycinate (which is chelated). Have you tried the beet brownies for constipation? They taste pretty darn good! The only thing I don't like about them is that they are way more moist than just plain pecan butter brownies. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 i can't take magnesium citrate because it makes me retain > too much water and causes me to flare a little. i think i might have > developed an intolerence to it at the beginning of the diet because i > took it so much. > Misty Kimble > cd - no meds > scd - 13 months > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.