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Got it! NOW I completely understand. Thanks for the clarification. I did

not make the connection between flow rates and home hemo vs standard hemo.

Any news on your home hemo yet? I don't know how long it takes to come out

and inspect your apartment.

I hope they approve it before the winter hits really hard.

In a message dated 12/7/2004 6:00:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

pgl-groups@... writes:

> A catheter is never desirable for long term dialysis, because they can't

> handle a high enough flow compared to a fistula or gortex graft in order to

> provide good dialysis when doing the standard 3-4 hours 3 time a week. For

> home nocturnal hemodialysis or daily short hemodialysis, it might be Ok,

> because you don't need as high a flow for that. It's still not desireable

> for the long term though.

> Pierre

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A catheter is never desirable for long term dialysis, because they can't

handle a high enough flow compared to a fistula or gortex graft in order to

provide good dialysis when doing the standard 3-4 hours 3 time a week. For

home nocturnal hemodialysis or daily short hemodialysis, it might be Ok,

because you don't need as high a flow for that. It's still not desireable

for the long term though.

Pierre

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> That makes sense Marcia.

>

> Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

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Hi . I only see the doctor in charge of the home hemo program on the

15th. I have to be accepted into the program as a suitable candidate before

they come out to the apartment. I don't really know what their criteria

might be besides just the ability to pass the training. But whatever

happens, it would still take a while. It's my understanding that the program

can currently train only one patient at a time (it's 6 to 8 weeks

full-time), and I know there's one person scheduled for January. You have to

be really patient in this game : )

How this program came about is very interesting. They had a trial program in

Toronto first, which proved very successful (Toronto is in the same province

as Ottawa is. Toronto is the provincial capital, and Ottawa is the national

capital. There is great rivalry between Ottawa and Toronto, and it extends

to other things besides the rivalry between the NHL hockey Toronto Maple

Leafs and Ottawa Senators).

Apparently, the doctor I'm to see went out on a limb to start a small

nocturnal home hemo program in Ottawa a couple of years ago without official

government funding for it (roughly the same time I started dialysis). It was

done with funds that weren't earmarked for it specifically, hoping to

demonstrate the great advantages of this form of dialysis, as well as

showing that it would be cost advantageous for the system, to the point that

it wouldn't look good to stop it. Now, it's a going concern, though still

relatively a small program. At the time I started dialysis, getting into it

wasn't even really an option (there was a long waiting list), but over the

subsequent couple of years, it became more available without too many of us

already on hemodialysis knowing about it, and so now there isn't so much of

a waiting list for it.

Pierre

Re: Chest Catheter~

>

> Got it! NOW I completely understand. Thanks for the clarification. I did

> not make the connection between flow rates and home hemo vs standard hemo.

>

> Any news on your home hemo yet? I don't know how long it takes to come

out

> and inspect your apartment.

>

> I hope they approve it before the winter hits really hard.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/7/2004 6:00:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> pgl-groups@... writes:

>

> > A catheter is never desirable for long term dialysis, because they can't

> > handle a high enough flow compared to a fistula or gortex graft in order

to

> > provide good dialysis when doing the standard 3-4 hours 3 time a week.

For

> > home nocturnal hemodialysis or daily short hemodialysis, it might be Ok,

> > because you don't need as high a flow for that. It's still not

desireable

> > for the long term though.

> > Pierre

>

>

>

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Hi Pierre,

That is interesting how it came about. You have to let us know what you find

out on the 15th, and I put it on my prayer calendar too.

In a message dated 12/7/2004 7:34:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,

pgl-groups@... writes:

>

> Hi . I only see the doctor in charge of the home hemo program on the

> 15th. I have to be accepted into the program as a suitable candidate before

> they come out to the apartment. I don't really know what their criteria

> might be besides just the ability to pass the training. But whatever

> happens, it would still take a while. It's my understanding that the program

> can currently train only one patient at a time (it's 6 to 8 weeks

> full-time), and I know there's one person scheduled for January. You have to

> be really patient in this game : )

>

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