Re: Marti RE: oxycodone

December 13, 2007

Hi Caroline, Thanks. I ended up taking all 3 hydrocodone (is that the same as

oxycodone?)during the day Tuesday and Wednesday. I think they helped. It's

hard to say since I was still in pain, but probably less pain than I would have

been in. The only place I didn't feel much relief was in my neck and shoulders,

but I think I use them too much while they are tensed.

He gave me one refill, so I guess you can refill them in CT. If I refill in

15 days, which I could according to the directions on the bottle, I would have

to go 45 days before I could get another perscription. So he obviously wants me

to take them in two 30 day increments. Maybe I can talk him into more after

this. Who knows? I'm just glad he gave me something, really did'nt bat an eye

this time just called in the script or rather sent it via his computer.

I take Klonopin generic too and I get plenty of refills on that. The only

thing I can't refill is my Ritalin. It has to be a written script every time,

can't even be called in. I think it is strange that every other thing I take I

can have called in and have refills on, except the Ritalin. I take other psych

drugs other than Klonopin and I take Provigil and have no trouble with those.

Luckily the hydrocodone doesn't upset my stomach much. It affects it, but

doesn't make me throw up. I experimented a little with taking it with food, but

found that it seems to work better if I don't. I have no idea why, unless it is

an absorption issue.

Anyway I'm glad I have them and if I wait the right amount of time to ask for

another script, maybe he will give me a higher dose. Don't want to look like a

" drug seeker. " hahaha He doesn't know me well since he has just been my PCP

since June, so I guess he has been warry. I need to try to find a rheumy or

someone to treat my fibro because my PCP says he knows about it, but doesn't

know enough to start prescribing for it.

My pulmonary doc who I see again right after Christmas treats my Sarcoidosis

and is pretty wise. He may know something about fibromyalgia, because he seems

to know a lot about everything. I'm going to ask him about it when I see him.

I see my eye specialist on the 21st (I'm hoping for a rest from the shots in

my eyes since it's so close to Christmas, but the left one has gotten pretty bad

looking) and he will probably drop the Prednizone, which I am having yucky side

effects to. He is going to try me on Methotrexate, as long as it doesn't

interfere with anything else I'm taking. I may even ask him about the fibro or

at least if he knows a good doctor for it. He seems to know a lot of people too

and he is a very caring doctor.

Thanks for your concern, Marti

oline Witte wrote:

Hi, first of all, congrats on getting some 'real' pain meds. The first

time(s) I took narcotic pain relievers I threw up a LOT!! Finally my doctor

suggested cutting them in half, and instead of taking one every 6 hours, take a

half every 3 hours. I think they were the oxycodone with aspirin, (Percodan)

anyway, they were for my migraines. It took a long time for my body to adjust to

them. Once I had adjusted I never threw up again from them, even if I went

months in between prescriptions. Oh, for those days...a small prescription would

last for months. The migraines were the only severe pain I had. Now I'm taking

one 10 mg oxycontin 2X a day, plus 5mg oxycodone for break-through pain. Even at

that I still don't get down much below a 5 in pain level. A wonderful day for me

is a 4!!! I can ignore that for hours!! Only, THINKING about exactly what level

I'm at makes it hurt worse. Now, I just know when I'm cringing it's time for a

pill, if I'm not, just don't think

about it. Anyway, I never throw up from pain meds any more. I also find coffee

along with my meds make them more effective, and when I really hurt, I add in a

couple of Excedrin. The pain meds I take don't have any added tylenol or

aspirin,(in other words, they're NOT percodans or percocets) It can be more

dangerous to take the percodans or percocets, cos you will be taking too much

aspirin or tylenol if you have to take an extra tablet. So...I do hope they work

for you, but I must say he's being very stingy prescribing them. Still, it's a

start. My doctor prescribes 60 of the oxycontin and 200 of the oxycodone each

month. I know I won't come near to using all of the oxycodones, but that one

prescription will probably last me at LEAST 2 months or longer now that I have

the oxycontin. However, at least I won't run out. I can stash some away for a

'rainy day'. I know he will be 'proud' of me if I don't have to refill the

oxycodone next month!! Can you get the refill in 15

days or not till next month? In AZ it's against the law to write refills on

narcotics, or any drugs in that class. Even my 'pep pills' have to be re-written

each month. My Klonopin, however, don't. My psych doctor usually writes 6

refills each time, I don't know how they work things here. I would think the

Klonopin would be the same 'class' of drugs. It's not cos it's a psych refill,

cos she's the one who writes the ADD script too. Who knows? I do know that part

of the pharm laws are federal, and then the state can add even more restrictions

if they want. Keep me posted as to how they are working for you.

Peace and Love

Caroline

> Hi Caroline,

> I went to my PCP this morning and he gave me a script for

> 5mg hydrocodone either 3xday or 3 at one time, to last for

> one month with one refill. So now I finally have pain pills.

> I will be interested in seeing how it works.

> Is anyone else taking hydrocodone? How is it working for

> you? I took one today and think I've noticed a little difference,

> I hurt so badly it is hard to tell, but I think it may have. I'm going

> to take another one soon I think. I didn't want to start with 3 at a

> time. What kind of side effects does anyone have from this.

> Any answers are appreciated.

> Marti

>

> Caroline Witte wrote:

> Marti, I hope you DO camp out on his doorstep. It is cruel and

> unusual punishment, really, if he will not give you something for pain.

> In Washington, it was a LAW that pain must be treated! A doctor who

> refused to treat it in any effective manner could be sued. Now,

> Washington does NOT have a higher rate of narcotics addicts than any

> other state. I remember the law being passed, I think it was in the 80's,

> but could be wrong about that. I just know that most doctors in

> Washington treated pain aggressively for as long as I lived there.

> Apparently not all of them did, or there would have been no reason to

> pass a law about it. I always assumed other states would have the

> samesort of laws by now, but found out the hard way it isn't the case.

> You might want to check your laws. Maybe there is one like the Washington

> one. This law is posted in hospitals and doctors offices. Part of the law

> says it must be posted in plain sight. There is, of course, a system of

> checks and

> balances in effect, for instance all pharmacies must report all narcotic

> prescriptions through a central clearing-house, to keep track of how many

> doctors might be prescibing for the same person, they even check out of

> state to keep tabs. But, as long as the patient is being prescribed by

> only one doctor there are no limits as to what is prescribed. Of course,

> there are allowences made for travel, etc. It's time we make our feelings

> known to our lawmakers. All states should have this law. I can't remember

> off-hand what it's called, maybe just the 'pain law'.

>

> I hope you get some relief soon. Keeping you in my prayers.

>

> Peace and Love

> Caroline

>

>> Thank you for your post. Can use all the hugs and support I can get and

>> I

>> do appreciate it. It is one of the more painful cancers, but right now

>> it's a toss up as to which is more painful, that or the fibro. They are

>> different types of pain. The first is more sharp, while the fibro is

>> more achey. I'm hoping when I go to the doctor tomorrow I can get

>> something for the pain. My fibro fog has lifted somewhat for today,

>> which is great, but the pain not so much. I think I will camp out on his

>> doorstep until he gives me something. He's a young doctor and I don't

>> know if that's a plus or a minus. He could either not be worried about

>> what he prescribes or be a scared little wimp. I'm certainly hoping for

>> the former.

>> Thanks again,

>> Marti

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December 16, 2007

I'm sorry I'm so far behind on posts...345 left right now. I started at the top

and am working backwards. Hydrocodone isn't the same as oxycodone...hydrocodone

is Vicodin and oxycodone is Percocet. I just take the generic without the added

aspirin or tylenol. Oxycodones are stronger. My doctor prescribes 200 5 mg per

month for me, but since I have also got the oxycontin for long-lasting pain

relief...10 mgs 2X daily, I don't need as many of the oxycodones. This

prescription should last about 2 months. Anyway, if you tell him later that they

do help, but they wear off too quickly and you would like to take them a little

more often, maybe he would do it. I really didn't ask for the oxycodones, it was

my doctor's suggestion. All I asked for was 'something' for the pain.

Hope you can get a dosage worked out to help keep you comfy.

Peace and Love

Caroline

> Hi Caroline, Thanks. I ended up taking all 3 hydrocodone (is that the

> same as oxycodone?)during the day Tuesday and Wednesday. I think they

> helped. It's hard to say since I was still in pain, but probably less

> pain than I would have been in. The only place I didn't feel much relief

> was in my neck and shoulders, but I think I use them too much while they

> are tensed.

> He gave me one refill, so I guess you can refill them in CT. If I

> refill in 15 days, which I could according to the directions on the

> bottle, I would have to go 45 days before I could get another

> perscription. So he obviously wants me to take them in two 30 day

> increments. Maybe I can talk him into more after this. Who knows? I'm

> just glad he gave me something, really did'nt bat an eye this time just

> called in the script or rather sent it via his computer.

> I take Klonopin generic too and I get plenty of refills on that. The

> only thing I can't refill is my Ritalin. It has to be a written script

> every time, can't even be called in. I think it is strange that every

> other thing I take I can have called in and have refills on, except the

> Ritalin. I take other psych drugs other than Klonopin and I take Provigil

> and have no trouble with those.

>

> Luckily the hydrocodone doesn't upset my stomach much. It affects it,

> but doesn't make me throw up. I experimented a little with taking it

> with food, but found that it seems to work better if I don't. I have no

> idea why, unless it is an absorption issue.

> Anyway I'm glad I have them and if I wait the right amount of time to

> ask for another script, maybe he will give me a higher dose. Don't want

> to look like a " drug seeker. " hahaha He doesn't know me well since he

> has just been my PCP since June, so I guess he has been warry. I need to

> try to find a rheumy or someone to treat my fibro because my PCP says he

> knows about it, but doesn't know enough to start prescribing for it.

> My pulmonary doc who I see again right after Christmas treats my

> Sarcoidosis and is pretty wise. He may know something about

> fibromyalgia, because he seems to know a lot about everything. I'm going

> to ask him about it when I see him.

> I see my eye specialist on the 21st (I'm hoping for a rest from the

> shots in my eyes since it's so close to Christmas, but the left one has

> gotten pretty bad looking) and he will probably drop the Prednizone,

> which I am having yucky side effects to. He is going to try me on

> Methotrexate, as long as it doesn't interfere with anything else I'm

> taking. I may even ask him about the fibro or at least if he knows a

> good doctor for it. He seems to know a lot of people too and he is a

> very caring doctor.

> Thanks for your concern, Marti

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December 16, 2007

Hi Caroline,

Not to worry about being behind on posts. I am too. I have to skim some of

them.

Thanks for the infor on the meds. The hydrocodone the doc gave me is 5mg

3Xday and I'm assuming that since it is the generic it doesn't have any aspirin

or tylenol. I guess Vicodin and Percocet do. Thanks for letting me know that

oxycodone is stronger.

This dosage is helping some, but is definitely not taking all the pain away or

even making it more bearable at times. I will talk to him when I see him next.

I think I need to find a fibro specialist instead of just going to my PCP for

pain meds. I might need to try Lyrica or one of the others and my PCP doesn't

know much about fibro - does any doctor. Oh yeah, you have one. Can you send

him my way?

Thanks,

Marti

Caroline Witte wrote:

I'm sorry I'm so far behind on posts...345 left right now. I started

at the top and am working backwards. Hydrocodone isn't the same as

oxycodone...hydrocodone is Vicodin and oxycodone is Percocet. I just take the

generic without the added aspirin or tylenol. Oxycodones are stronger. My doctor

prescribes 200 5 mg per month for me, but since I have also got the oxycontin

for long-lasting pain relief...10 mgs 2X daily, I don't need as many of the

oxycodones. This prescription should last about 2 months. Anyway, if you tell

him later that they do help, but they wear off too quickly and you would like to

take them a little more often, maybe he would do it. I really didn't ask for the

oxycodones, it was my doctor's suggestion. All I asked for was 'something' for

the pain.