Multi-Strain probiotic ?

[Guest guest]

My son just got his Organic Acid Test back. For yeast/fungal he tested

high on 3-oxoglutaric and tartaric (the other 6 were normal). In the

interpretation it says " Elevated yeast/fungal metabolites, indicating a

yeast/fungal overgrowth of the gastrointestinal tract. Perscription or

natural anti-fungals, along with suplementation of high potency multi-

strain probiotics (20-50 billion cfu's), may reduce yeast fungal levals.

My question is how do I give a multi-strain probiotic when SCD only

allows acidophilus? My son has been SCD for 2 years and he has gotten

SCDophilus and S.Boulardii from GIPro Health.

[Guest guest]

I did quite well eliminating a yeast overgrowth when I first started SCD and couldn't tolerate probiotics nor antifungals. I chose SCD-legal foods that wouldn't also feed the yeast. Took a while, but after 4 months I was able to introduce small amounts of acidophilus, and continued to improve. So the key for me was choosing foods that wouldn't also feed the candida/yeast.

I either eliminated some foods, or severely limited others. I stayed at a very drastic level for about 4 months, then over the next year I slowly, and I mean slowly, added in some of the yeast trigger foods. By 18 months I had my yeast levels back under control. I couldn't convince my doctor to order a test for me, so I just used my symptoms as a guide. I had a lot of yeast-related symptoms.

There's a folder in our group files discussing yeast/candida and SCD. The basics are to limit or avoid legal foods that are high in sugars, starches, molds and are fermented. Fruit, honey, high-carb veggies, mushrooms, cheese, wine, vinegar are all foods that your son might need to cut back on or avoid for a few months.

If your son can handle antifungals once in a while that will also help speed up the process. But there is die-off to get through with an antifungal. My body reacts violently to antifungals, so I just used food choices to clear up my overgrowth.

I also don't eat much of the foods my digestion can't cope with. Anytime I experience more fermentation means a surge in yeast. Dealing with high yeast levels comes with having poor digestion. Since my digestive disorders are functional, I have to accept that I always need to take care.

Kim M.

SCD 5 years

[Guest guest]

That's similar to the protocol i'm on ( from my nd) & I use high dose acidophilus (instead of the multi strain) plus low carb/fructose scd, rotating natural anti-fungals. Seems to be working so far ( I'm in month 2, my boss/nd says to stay with it 6 months minimum) ...so i would "sub" in straight acidophilus for the multi strain, but follow their other recommendations. hth, gisele

[Guest guest]

Kim,

When fighting a yeast overgrowth, are you allowed to have the SCD

yogurt? Or should one avoid that totally because it is fermented?

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> I did quite well eliminating a yeast overgrowth when I first

started SCD and couldn't tolerate probiotics nor antifungals. I

chose SCD-legal foods that wouldn't also feed the yeast. Took a

while, but after 4 months I was able to introduce small amounts of

acidophilus, and continued to improve. So the key for me was

choosing foods that wouldn't also feed the candida/yeast.

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> I either eliminated some foods, or severely limited others. I

stayed at a very drastic level for about 4 months, then over the

next year I slowly, and I mean slowly, added in some of the yeast

trigger foods. By 18 months I had my yeast levels back under

control. I couldn't convince my doctor to order a test for me, so I

just used my symptoms as a guide. I had a lot of yeast-related

symptoms.

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> There's a folder in our group files discussing yeast/candida and

SCD. The basics are to limit or avoid legal foods that are high in

sugars, starches, molds and are fermented. Fruit, honey, high-carb

veggies, mushrooms, cheese, wine, vinegar are all foods that your

son might need to cut back on or avoid for a few months.

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> If your son can handle antifungals once in a while that will also

help speed up the process. But there is die-off to get through with

an antifungal. My body reacts violently to antifungals, so I just

used food choices to clear up my overgrowth.

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> I also don't eat much of the foods my digestion can't cope with.

Anytime I experience more fermentation means a surge in yeast.

Dealing with high yeast levels comes with having poor digestion.

Since my digestive disorders are functional, I have to accept that I

always need to take care.

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> Kim M.

> SCD 5 years

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[Guest guest]

You certainly want to use the 24-hour fermented yogurt, especially

when fighting a yeast/candida overgrowth. If your body will tolerate

it. Yes, the milk is fermented/coagulated, but the sugar source

(lactose) is removed and the beneficial bacteria will replace the

yeast as they are killed off.

If you're not tolerating yogurt, you can try an acidophilus

supplement. If your immune system still responds to the acidophilus,

just stick to the yeast elimination diet for a few months and try

introducing a low dose of acidophilus periodically. Eventually you

should be able to tolerate acidophilus and/or yogurt.

Fermented foods that should be avoided while dealing with high yeast

levels are wine (and even vinegar for some people) and beer and other

grain alcohols (some of which aren't permitted on SCD anyway).

Kim M.

SCD 5 years

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> Kim,

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> When fighting a yeast overgrowth, are you allowed to have the SCD

> yogurt? Or should one avoid that totally because it is fermented?

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