Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Thank you so much Betsy! I do notice I feel much worse when eating protein too. This too shall pass... In a message dated 12/6/2004 6:38:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, bcabell@... writes: > Yes, the ability to eat anything and everything after transplant seems > to be one of the great thrills. My son went through 3 years of college > on the dreaded renal diet, which is completely opposite to the usual > college diet since you're not supposed to eat pizza, hamburgers, french > fries, potato chips, catsup, beer, Cokes, candy bars, and all those > staples of college life. However, by the last few months before the tx, > he could hardly eat anything and would just vomit if he ate more than a > couple of ounces of protein. However, he was ravenous almost > immediately after the surgery, and he loved everything they brought him > to eat in the hospital, and you know hospital food really isn't that > exciting. > > Here's hoping you and and Pierre and the others waiting get your > transplants soon - > Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Yes, the ability to eat anything and everything after transplant seems to be one of the great thrills. My son went through 3 years of college on the dreaded renal diet, which is completely opposite to the usual college diet since you're not supposed to eat pizza, hamburgers, french fries, potato chips, catsup, beer, Cokes, candy bars, and all those staples of college life. However, by the last few months before the tx, he could hardly eat anything and would just vomit if he ate more than a couple of ounces of protein. However, he was ravenous almost immediately after the surgery, and he loved everything they brought him to eat in the hospital, and you know hospital food really isn't that exciting. Here's hoping you and and Pierre and the others waiting get your transplants soon - Betsy > , > > Yes, I have lost a good bit of weight...about 70 pounds thus far. > This > would seem to me to be just fine as I was a fat*** at 275 and am now > down to > just 205 or so. You are bang-on about feeling better with zero > intake. My > neph was FURIOUS when I told her I hadn't eaten for a few days, I mean > really slamming stuff around, and prescribed all manner of > wunderpills to > manage this deficiency. Me, give me a B complex vitamin and let it > go. > > Their main argument appears to be, " once malnourished, always > malnourished, " > so again they are afraid that I will earn this designation. > > I need to noodle (pun intended) over a kidney friendly dietary > regimine of > amino acids, complex carbs, etc. that takes wastes, insomuch as this > is > possible, out of the picture. I don't enjoy food anymore, not > really, so > why not just drink an " Ensure-like, " potion that produces little waste > material, provides the needed calories, and yet keeps me feeling even > and > non-cruddy. Worth a bit of study, that. > > Good part is I love pasta & rice, so that works, but.....tomatoes! > Ah, > FIRST THING after transplant....I am going to call the Raghu people > and have > 10,000 jars of spaghetti sauce delivered...pour it all into my pool, > dive > in, and eat my way to the bottom! No one will want to see this. > So....decadant. So....Roman..... > > Here's to the Texas Chili Cookoff! > > cheers Bart > > Re: Soup bases - was NuSalt > > > > Good point Bart. I have been trying to decide between hemo and PD > lately > myself. I was sure about going with hemo until I learned that my job > would > not > work out well with hemo since I travel so much. I am the Regional > Business > Director for the Western region so I am on the road often. You can > always > tell > when I travel because on those days I don't get to the board until the > evening > :-) I think I will have to go PD to keep my job as it is. > > > > Why do they want you on a 2500+ calorie a day diet? Are you > struggling with > weight loss too? I have been sent to see the dietitian again in a > couple of > weeks and I am sure they are going to tell me to add calories too. > > I do force myself to eat, but boy, the appetite has definitely > diminished > and > it is not easy at all to get as many calories as they want. I also > find > that > when I do eat, I feel worse than when I don't eat. I guess that is > because > the kidneys are not cleaning the toxins from my blood as well. > > Just curious is that is why you are being asked to consume more > calories > too. > > > > In a message dated 12/6/2004 4:40:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, > bkhphd@... writes: > > > Another of the reasons I am leaning heavily toward PD when the time > > comes....all have told me the diet is much more liberal in > virtually all > > respects than the hemo diet... > > > > Speaking of which, the RD wants me to consume 2500+ calories a > day. If I > > make half that, I feel stuffed. Any ideas, aside from snarfing the > sugar > > bowl? All the high calorie options (i.e. ice cream, milkshakes, > apple > > cider) seem to be contraindicated....though I do pour on the olive > oil at > > every occasion.... > > > > Bart > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Hi Betsy Very nice of you and your son to think of us. Pierre Re: renal diet > > Thank you so much Betsy! > > I do notice I feel much worse when eating protein too. This too shall > pass... > > > > In a message dated 12/6/2004 6:38:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, > bcabell@... writes: > > > Yes, the ability to eat anything and everything after transplant seems > > to be one of the great thrills. My son went through 3 years of college > > on the dreaded renal diet, which is completely opposite to the usual > > college diet since you're not supposed to eat pizza, hamburgers, french > > fries, potato chips, catsup, beer, Cokes, candy bars, and all those > > staples of college life. However, by the last few months before the tx, > > he could hardly eat anything and would just vomit if he ate more than a > > couple of ounces of protein. However, he was ravenous almost > > immediately after the surgery, and he loved everything they brought him > > to eat in the hospital, and you know hospital food really isn't that > > exciting. > > > > Here's hoping you and and Pierre and the others waiting get your > > transplants soon - > > Betsy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 There's a guy I know who was diabetic since childhood before he reached esrd. He had never had a milk shake, and after his transplant, when he was allowed eat, that's the first thing he had - but he said it tasted awful and he doesn't know how come people can stand that stuff : ) Pierre Re: renal diet Yes, the ability to eat anything and everything after transplant seems to be one of the great thrills. My son went through 3 years of college on the dreaded renal diet, which is completely opposite to the usual college diet since you're not supposed to eat pizza, hamburgers, french fries, potato chips, catsup, beer, Cokes, candy bars, and all those staples of college life. However, by the last few months before the tx, he could hardly eat anything and would just vomit if he ate more than a couple of ounces of protein. However, he was ravenous almost immediately after the surgery, and he loved everything they brought him to eat in the hospital, and you know hospital food really isn't that exciting. Here's hoping you and and Pierre and the others waiting get your transplants soon - Betsy > , > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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