Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 In a message dated 3/21/05 3:20:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, jhaney92@... writes: > >I wish it were in a pill form >>>>>>> Well, Symlin is only for type 1s and type 2s who are already using insulin, so if you're already giving yourself shots, what's a few more? At this time they're saying it can't be mixed with insulin, and is only to be used just before you start eating. It doesn't cause hypos on its own, even at very high doses, but it also doesn't do anything without insulin. One needs to inject or pump a bolus of insulin and inject this stuff. It apparently flattens the curve of PP BG, and reports are that it does what it claims to do. It probably isn't indicated for people who eat low carb, but rather is meant for people who don't eat low carb, as it's for use for substantial meals, not snacks and such. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 In a message dated 3/21/05 3:30:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, kulas1@... writes: I don't know how excited you should be. Did you read the article associated with your link? It seems that SEVERE HYPOS are associated with taking symlin at around three hours after injecting this new wonder drug. The company was very open about this little hiccup in using this drug, even going so far as admitting that driving a car or operating machinery could be a problem while using this drug. Yes, that's why people are instructed to use half as much bolus insulin when they're using symlin. Plus to make sure to eat immediately after taking it. Driving a car when using insulin or a sulf could be a problem too, cured by frequent testing and careful titration. >I am not a sciene type but the article seems to indicate that symlin >would be used like a bolus insulin (though it is not an insulin) adding >to smaller doses of bolus insulin and in using less bolus insulin would >result in weight loss. >>>>>>> The weight loss they mention is less than 2 lbs in 6 months and may or may not be associated with nausea that a lot of people suffer when starting to use it. It's questionable whether using less inslin leads to weight loss in any case, as it depends on so many factors. >I have to say that as a type I these points, including weight loss, make >me see red flags all over the place. I think I'll wait for the jury to >check in before I get excited. >>>>>> On another list I am on, for insulin pumpers, one of the study participants is a member and he will continue to use it as it definitely lowered PP BG and kept spikes down. He also used much less insulin. It's a hormone that also comes from the pancreas, along with several others that are thought to be defective in both type 1 and type 2 diabetics. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 In looking at the charts about hypos, they mention the percentages of people who had hypos and how severe they were. It's not like using insulin alone means you're not subject to hypos, so an important comparison would be hypos before symlin and hypos with it, not a comparison of zero hypos to symlin hypos. Symlin alone doesn't cause hypos, it's the use of it with insulin that causes them. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 In a message dated 3/21/05 4:22:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, kulas1@... writes: >Cured? Stacey you aren't saying that hypos can be guaranteed to disappear >while tightening control are you? You speak as if you are a type II. Oh heaven forbid, I might be a type 2. And a type 2 doesn't konw anything about hypos. I am a type 2. Cured was a bad choice of words perhaps. But if you read the drug monograph that comes with insulin, you'll see the same warnings. Insulin can cause hypos. Hypos can be dangerous, especially if you are driving or operating heavy machinery, which is why insulin using diabetics aren't allowed to do certain jobs. But the fact is that frequent testing mitigates frequent hypos. That means before driving and at intervals while on the road. Might there be some occasions when they aren't caught, sure. Stuff happens, but frequent testing makes it unlikely or much less likely, if you prefer. It's the insulin that causes the hypo, not this new symlin. Would I recommend using the new stuff with your insulin then going out for a three hour drive without testing and seeing how you react to it? Uh, no. I think anyone using a sulf or insulin who is even remotied tightly controled should test a minimum of before driving and at regular, say hourly, intervals while driving. I think anyone starting insulin use should stay close to home at first, even if starting slowly, to see what happens. Insulin can be an extremely dangerous substance. >thought that type IIs also had hypos without rhymn or reason as well as >>hypos with an easily determined reasons. The all have reasons, we just can't always figure out what the reasons are - and the reasons run tha gamut from overdosing a meal, delayed absorption of insulin, stress, illness, you name it. But they don't come out of thin air, so to speak. >The tighter the control the more >likely hypos will visit with abandom. I've had hypos at the most >illogical times and if the manufacturer brings this up as a potential >problem with using this drug then there is substantial evidence that it >is a problem that is not cured by titration or anything else. >>>>> It makes me very nervous to hear you say this. I hope you don't drive under these conditions. I don't agree that tight control means that hypos will visit with abandon. I think that if you are having a lot of hypos, then your control isn't very good. That's my view, of course, so make of it what you will. I think that there are things we can't control with this disease, but there is a lot we can control, and if I were having a lot of hypos that I coudln't find a cause for at odd times, I would be very leery of getting behind the whell of a car and putting other's and my life in danger. And the manufacturer brings this up as an issue just as any maker of insulin brings it up. Insulin causes hypos. Read the lantus monograph or the humalog monograph. They all have long sections on hypoglycemia, how to recognize it, what causes it, what to do about it, the dangers of it. This is not new, whether for this new stuff or for insulin. >.Actually, >.it makes me nervous when someone uses the word cure and DM in the same >>>>sentence. If it was so easy to " cure " hypos, no one would have them. >>>>>. Sorry to have offended you by using the word cure. Bad choice of words on my part. But the fact is that there are plenty of type 1s and type 2s who don't have many, if any, hypos but who are also tightly controlled. Some are luckier in that their diabetes is easier to control, others have a harder time. We all make adjustments according to our own disease. The purpose of this drug is not just to have you use less insulin, but also to flatten BG peaks, which are now thought to be much more important than previously. YMMV of course. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 In a message dated 3/21/05 4:22:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, kulas1@... writes: >Cured? Stacey you aren't saying that hypos can be guaranteed to disappear >while tightening control are you? You speak as if you are a type II. Oh heaven forbid, I might be a type 2. And a type 2 doesn't konw anything about hypos. I am a type 2. Cured was a bad choice of words perhaps. But if you read the drug monograph that comes with insulin, you'll see the same warnings. Insulin can cause hypos. Hypos can be dangerous, especially if you are driving or operating heavy machinery, which is why insulin using diabetics aren't allowed to do certain jobs. But the fact is that frequent testing mitigates frequent hypos. That means before driving and at intervals while on the road. Might there be some occasions when they aren't caught, sure. Stuff happens, but frequent testing makes it unlikely or much less likely, if you prefer. It's the insulin that causes the hypo, not this new symlin. Would I recommend using the new stuff with your insulin then going out for a three hour drive without testing and seeing how you react to it? Uh, no. I think anyone using a sulf or insulin who is even remotied tightly controled should test a minimum of before driving and at regular, say hourly, intervals while driving. I think anyone starting insulin use should stay close to home at first, even if starting slowly, to see what happens. Insulin can be an extremely dangerous substance. >thought that type IIs also had hypos without rhymn or reason as well as >>hypos with an easily determined reasons. The all have reasons, we just can't always figure out what the reasons are - and the reasons run tha gamut from overdosing a meal, delayed absorption of insulin, stress, illness, you name it. But they don't come out of thin air, so to speak. >The tighter the control the more >likely hypos will visit with abandom. I've had hypos at the most >illogical times and if the manufacturer brings this up as a potential >problem with using this drug then there is substantial evidence that it >is a problem that is not cured by titration or anything else. >>>>> It makes me very nervous to hear you say this. I hope you don't drive under these conditions. I don't agree that tight control means that hypos will visit with abandon. I think that if you are having a lot of hypos, then your control isn't very good. That's my view, of course, so make of it what you will. I think that there are things we can't control with this disease, but there is a lot we can control, and if I were having a lot of hypos that I coudln't find a cause for at odd times, I would be very leery of getting behind the whell of a car and putting other's and my life in danger. And the manufacturer brings this up as an issue just as any maker of insulin brings it up. Insulin causes hypos. Read the lantus monograph or the humalog monograph. They all have long sections on hypoglycemia, how to recognize it, what causes it, what to do about it, the dangers of it. This is not new, whether for this new stuff or for insulin. >.Actually, >.it makes me nervous when someone uses the word cure and DM in the same >>>>sentence. If it was so easy to " cure " hypos, no one would have them. >>>>>. Sorry to have offended you by using the word cure. Bad choice of words on my part. But the fact is that there are plenty of type 1s and type 2s who don't have many, if any, hypos but who are also tightly controlled. Some are luckier in that their diabetes is easier to control, others have a harder time. We all make adjustments according to our own disease. The purpose of this drug is not just to have you use less insulin, but also to flatten BG peaks, which are now thought to be much more important than previously. YMMV of course. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 In a message dated 3/21/05 4:22:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, kulas1@... writes: >Cured? Stacey you aren't saying that hypos can be guaranteed to disappear >while tightening control are you? You speak as if you are a type II. Oh heaven forbid, I might be a type 2. And a type 2 doesn't konw anything about hypos. I am a type 2. Cured was a bad choice of words perhaps. But if you read the drug monograph that comes with insulin, you'll see the same warnings. Insulin can cause hypos. Hypos can be dangerous, especially if you are driving or operating heavy machinery, which is why insulin using diabetics aren't allowed to do certain jobs. But the fact is that frequent testing mitigates frequent hypos. That means before driving and at intervals while on the road. Might there be some occasions when they aren't caught, sure. Stuff happens, but frequent testing makes it unlikely or much less likely, if you prefer. It's the insulin that causes the hypo, not this new symlin. Would I recommend using the new stuff with your insulin then going out for a three hour drive without testing and seeing how you react to it? Uh, no. I think anyone using a sulf or insulin who is even remotied tightly controled should test a minimum of before driving and at regular, say hourly, intervals while driving. I think anyone starting insulin use should stay close to home at first, even if starting slowly, to see what happens. Insulin can be an extremely dangerous substance. >thought that type IIs also had hypos without rhymn or reason as well as >>hypos with an easily determined reasons. The all have reasons, we just can't always figure out what the reasons are - and the reasons run tha gamut from overdosing a meal, delayed absorption of insulin, stress, illness, you name it. But they don't come out of thin air, so to speak. >The tighter the control the more >likely hypos will visit with abandom. I've had hypos at the most >illogical times and if the manufacturer brings this up as a potential >problem with using this drug then there is substantial evidence that it >is a problem that is not cured by titration or anything else. >>>>> It makes me very nervous to hear you say this. I hope you don't drive under these conditions. I don't agree that tight control means that hypos will visit with abandon. I think that if you are having a lot of hypos, then your control isn't very good. That's my view, of course, so make of it what you will. I think that there are things we can't control with this disease, but there is a lot we can control, and if I were having a lot of hypos that I coudln't find a cause for at odd times, I would be very leery of getting behind the whell of a car and putting other's and my life in danger. And the manufacturer brings this up as an issue just as any maker of insulin brings it up. Insulin causes hypos. Read the lantus monograph or the humalog monograph. They all have long sections on hypoglycemia, how to recognize it, what causes it, what to do about it, the dangers of it. This is not new, whether for this new stuff or for insulin. >.Actually, >.it makes me nervous when someone uses the word cure and DM in the same >>>>sentence. If it was so easy to " cure " hypos, no one would have them. >>>>>. Sorry to have offended you by using the word cure. Bad choice of words on my part. But the fact is that there are plenty of type 1s and type 2s who don't have many, if any, hypos but who are also tightly controlled. Some are luckier in that their diabetes is easier to control, others have a harder time. We all make adjustments according to our own disease. The purpose of this drug is not just to have you use less insulin, but also to flatten BG peaks, which are now thought to be much more important than previously. YMMV of course. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dr. Joe wrote about this in today's e-mail. He gave a site for additional info on smylin and GLP-1 - http://www.dhec.org/ You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. I have written them asking if this area is still under construction. Perhaps it is my computer and someone else can succeed. I have been following GLP-1 for years. The symlin website states the product is for people who are unable to achieve control despite optimal insulin usage. To me that implies using a lot of insulin. Those people might be able to halve their insulin and double their control with this product. I really don't see much use for a well controlled type 1 using using at most 30 or 40 units a day. It would be difficult to achieve a balance between good numbers and hypos. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dr. Joe wrote about this in today's e-mail. He gave a site for additional info on smylin and GLP-1 - http://www.dhec.org/ You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. I have written them asking if this area is still under construction. Perhaps it is my computer and someone else can succeed. I have been following GLP-1 for years. The symlin website states the product is for people who are unable to achieve control despite optimal insulin usage. To me that implies using a lot of insulin. Those people might be able to halve their insulin and double their control with this product. I really don't see much use for a well controlled type 1 using using at most 30 or 40 units a day. It would be difficult to achieve a balance between good numbers and hypos. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dr. Joe wrote about this in today's e-mail. He gave a site for additional info on smylin and GLP-1 - http://www.dhec.org/ You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. I have written them asking if this area is still under construction. Perhaps it is my computer and someone else can succeed. I have been following GLP-1 for years. The symlin website states the product is for people who are unable to achieve control despite optimal insulin usage. To me that implies using a lot of insulin. Those people might be able to halve their insulin and double their control with this product. I really don't see much use for a well controlled type 1 using using at most 30 or 40 units a day. It would be difficult to achieve a balance between good numbers and hypos. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I wish it were in a pill form Jan Symlin, a new treatment for both type one and type two diabetes, has gotten FDA approval! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I don't know how excited you should be. Did you read the article associated with your link? It seems that SEVERE HYPOS are associated with taking symlin at around three hours after injecting this new wonder drug. The company was very open about this little hiccup in using this drug, even going so far as admitting that driving a car or operating machinery could be a problem while using this drug. I am not a sciene type but the article seems to indicate that symlin would be used like a bolus insulin (though it is not an insulin) adding to smaller doses of bolus insulin and in using less bolus insulin would result in weight loss. I have to say that as a type I these points, including weight loss, make me see red flags all over the place. I think I'll wait for the jury to check in before I get excited. who does not relish hypos in any form. On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:47:57 -0000 " maydara " writes: > > > Symlin, a new treatment for both type one and type two diabetes, has > > gotten FDA approval! > > This is the first new treatment for T1 since the invention of > insulin! It should be on the market in a few months. > > You can learn about it at www.amylin.com > > Very exciting! > Dara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I don't know how excited you should be. Did you read the article associated with your link? It seems that SEVERE HYPOS are associated with taking symlin at around three hours after injecting this new wonder drug. The company was very open about this little hiccup in using this drug, even going so far as admitting that driving a car or operating machinery could be a problem while using this drug. I am not a sciene type but the article seems to indicate that symlin would be used like a bolus insulin (though it is not an insulin) adding to smaller doses of bolus insulin and in using less bolus insulin would result in weight loss. I have to say that as a type I these points, including weight loss, make me see red flags all over the place. I think I'll wait for the jury to check in before I get excited. who does not relish hypos in any form. On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:47:57 -0000 " maydara " writes: > > > Symlin, a new treatment for both type one and type two diabetes, has > > gotten FDA approval! > > This is the first new treatment for T1 since the invention of > insulin! It should be on the market in a few months. > > You can learn about it at www.amylin.com > > Very exciting! > Dara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:38:27 EST staceypmartin@... writes: > >> In a message dated 3/21/05 3:30:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> kulas1@... writes: >> I don't know how excited you should be. Did you read the article >> associated with your link? It seems that SEVERE HYPOS are associated >> with taking symlin at around three hours after injecting this new wonder > >drug. The company was very open about this little hiccup in using this > >drug, even going so far as admitting that driving a car or operating > >machinery could be a problem while using this drug. > Yes, that's why people are instructed to use half as much bolus > insulin when they're using symlin. Plus to make sure to eat immediately after > taking it. > For a type I it is not as simple as that. Some bolus injections for me are 3 units. So 1 and a half units is not going to make a difference for me. > Driving a car when using insulin or a sulf could be a problem too, > cured by frequent testing and careful titration. > Cured? Stacey you aren't saying that hypos can be guaranteed to disappear while tightening control are you? You speak as if you are a type II. I thought that type IIs also had hypos without rhymn or reason as well as hypos with an easily determined reasons. The tighter the control the more likely hypos will visit with abandom. I've had hypos at the most illogical times and if the manufacturer brings this up as a potential problem with using this drug then there is substantial evidence that it is a problem that is not cured by titration or anything else. Actually, it makes me nervous when someone uses the word cure and DM in the same sentence. If it was so easy to " cure " hypos, no one would have them. > >I am not a sciene type but the article seems to indicate that > >symlin would be used like a bolus insulin (though it is not an insulin) > >adding to smaller doses of bolus insulin and in using less bolus insulin > >would result in weight loss. > >>>>>>> > > The weight loss they mention is less than 2 lbs in 6 months and may > or may not be associated with nausea that a lot of people suffer when > starting to use it. It's questionable whether using less inslin leads to weight > loss in any case, as it depends on so many factors. > Regardless, they are still using it as a selling point just as Novo is saying that Detemir will not cause weight gain. From what I got from the article was that they believe that using less bolus insulin will result in weight loss. Of course you would first have to prove that taking insulin caused weight gain. This is another type II issue and not usually associated with type I. > >I have to say that as a type I these points, including weight loss, > >make me see red flags all over the place. I think I'll wait for the jury > >to check in before I get excited. > >>>>>> > > On another list I am on, for insulin pumpers, one of the study > participants is a member and he will continue to use it as it definitely lowered > PP BG and kept spikes down. He also used much less insulin. > And this person sounds like a type II, right? > It's a hormone that also comes from the pancreas, along with several > others that are thought to be defective in both type 1 and type 2 > diabetics. > Sorry Stacey but I have dealt with type I too long to see anything in your message that lowers my red flags. Time will tell what really lies beneath a press release. It took them 18 years to bring this drug to market and I can wait as long to see what developes with this but right now I am not excited at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:38:27 EST staceypmartin@... writes: > >> In a message dated 3/21/05 3:30:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> kulas1@... writes: >> I don't know how excited you should be. Did you read the article >> associated with your link? It seems that SEVERE HYPOS are associated >> with taking symlin at around three hours after injecting this new wonder > >drug. The company was very open about this little hiccup in using this > >drug, even going so far as admitting that driving a car or operating > >machinery could be a problem while using this drug. > Yes, that's why people are instructed to use half as much bolus > insulin when they're using symlin. Plus to make sure to eat immediately after > taking it. > For a type I it is not as simple as that. Some bolus injections for me are 3 units. So 1 and a half units is not going to make a difference for me. > Driving a car when using insulin or a sulf could be a problem too, > cured by frequent testing and careful titration. > Cured? Stacey you aren't saying that hypos can be guaranteed to disappear while tightening control are you? You speak as if you are a type II. I thought that type IIs also had hypos without rhymn or reason as well as hypos with an easily determined reasons. The tighter the control the more likely hypos will visit with abandom. I've had hypos at the most illogical times and if the manufacturer brings this up as a potential problem with using this drug then there is substantial evidence that it is a problem that is not cured by titration or anything else. Actually, it makes me nervous when someone uses the word cure and DM in the same sentence. If it was so easy to " cure " hypos, no one would have them. > >I am not a sciene type but the article seems to indicate that > >symlin would be used like a bolus insulin (though it is not an insulin) > >adding to smaller doses of bolus insulin and in using less bolus insulin > >would result in weight loss. > >>>>>>> > > The weight loss they mention is less than 2 lbs in 6 months and may > or may not be associated with nausea that a lot of people suffer when > starting to use it. It's questionable whether using less inslin leads to weight > loss in any case, as it depends on so many factors. > Regardless, they are still using it as a selling point just as Novo is saying that Detemir will not cause weight gain. From what I got from the article was that they believe that using less bolus insulin will result in weight loss. Of course you would first have to prove that taking insulin caused weight gain. This is another type II issue and not usually associated with type I. > >I have to say that as a type I these points, including weight loss, > >make me see red flags all over the place. I think I'll wait for the jury > >to check in before I get excited. > >>>>>> > > On another list I am on, for insulin pumpers, one of the study > participants is a member and he will continue to use it as it definitely lowered > PP BG and kept spikes down. He also used much less insulin. > And this person sounds like a type II, right? > It's a hormone that also comes from the pancreas, along with several > others that are thought to be defective in both type 1 and type 2 > diabetics. > Sorry Stacey but I have dealt with type I too long to see anything in your message that lowers my red flags. Time will tell what really lies beneath a press release. It took them 18 years to bring this drug to market and I can wait as long to see what developes with this but right now I am not excited at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:38:27 EST staceypmartin@... writes: > >> In a message dated 3/21/05 3:30:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> kulas1@... writes: >> I don't know how excited you should be. Did you read the article >> associated with your link? It seems that SEVERE HYPOS are associated >> with taking symlin at around three hours after injecting this new wonder > >drug. The company was very open about this little hiccup in using this > >drug, even going so far as admitting that driving a car or operating > >machinery could be a problem while using this drug. > Yes, that's why people are instructed to use half as much bolus > insulin when they're using symlin. Plus to make sure to eat immediately after > taking it. > For a type I it is not as simple as that. Some bolus injections for me are 3 units. So 1 and a half units is not going to make a difference for me. > Driving a car when using insulin or a sulf could be a problem too, > cured by frequent testing and careful titration. > Cured? Stacey you aren't saying that hypos can be guaranteed to disappear while tightening control are you? You speak as if you are a type II. I thought that type IIs also had hypos without rhymn or reason as well as hypos with an easily determined reasons. The tighter the control the more likely hypos will visit with abandom. I've had hypos at the most illogical times and if the manufacturer brings this up as a potential problem with using this drug then there is substantial evidence that it is a problem that is not cured by titration or anything else. Actually, it makes me nervous when someone uses the word cure and DM in the same sentence. If it was so easy to " cure " hypos, no one would have them. > >I am not a sciene type but the article seems to indicate that > >symlin would be used like a bolus insulin (though it is not an insulin) > >adding to smaller doses of bolus insulin and in using less bolus insulin > >would result in weight loss. > >>>>>>> > > The weight loss they mention is less than 2 lbs in 6 months and may > or may not be associated with nausea that a lot of people suffer when > starting to use it. It's questionable whether using less inslin leads to weight > loss in any case, as it depends on so many factors. > Regardless, they are still using it as a selling point just as Novo is saying that Detemir will not cause weight gain. From what I got from the article was that they believe that using less bolus insulin will result in weight loss. Of course you would first have to prove that taking insulin caused weight gain. This is another type II issue and not usually associated with type I. > >I have to say that as a type I these points, including weight loss, > >make me see red flags all over the place. I think I'll wait for the jury > >to check in before I get excited. > >>>>>> > > On another list I am on, for insulin pumpers, one of the study > participants is a member and he will continue to use it as it definitely lowered > PP BG and kept spikes down. He also used much less insulin. > And this person sounds like a type II, right? > It's a hormone that also comes from the pancreas, along with several > others that are thought to be defective in both type 1 and type 2 > diabetics. > Sorry Stacey but I have dealt with type I too long to see anything in your message that lowers my red flags. Time will tell what really lies beneath a press release. It took them 18 years to bring this drug to market and I can wait as long to see what developes with this but right now I am not excited at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I would think that taking less insulin would lower the likelihood of hypos. After all, insulin is a hypoglycemic agent. That's it's entire purpose. Maybe at first, while adjusting to it, there would be more hypos. Same could easily be said for humalog- or any insulin. Also- Symlin, like insulin, is a synthetic version of a naturally ocurring hormone. It is not a crazy new drug- it is something that people with (type one) diabetes lack. It just makes sense to replace it. Of course, we'll have to see how it works...but if it makes insulin work better, makes you lose weight and makes control easier I can't imagine why type ones wouldn't take it. Dara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I would think that taking less insulin would lower the likelihood of hypos. After all, insulin is a hypoglycemic agent. That's it's entire purpose. Maybe at first, while adjusting to it, there would be more hypos. Same could easily be said for humalog- or any insulin. Also- Symlin, like insulin, is a synthetic version of a naturally ocurring hormone. It is not a crazy new drug- it is something that people with (type one) diabetes lack. It just makes sense to replace it. Of course, we'll have to see how it works...but if it makes insulin work better, makes you lose weight and makes control easier I can't imagine why type ones wouldn't take it. Dara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I would think that taking less insulin would lower the likelihood of hypos. After all, insulin is a hypoglycemic agent. That's it's entire purpose. Maybe at first, while adjusting to it, there would be more hypos. Same could easily be said for humalog- or any insulin. Also- Symlin, like insulin, is a synthetic version of a naturally ocurring hormone. It is not a crazy new drug- it is something that people with (type one) diabetes lack. It just makes sense to replace it. Of course, we'll have to see how it works...but if it makes insulin work better, makes you lose weight and makes control easier I can't imagine why type ones wouldn't take it. Dara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:54:59 -0000 " maydara " writes: > > > And Dara, just to let you know that many if not most type Is don't need anything that makes you lose weight. I imagine that would be one of several reasons why I would not want to take it. > > work better, makes you lose weight and makes control easier I can't > > imagine why type ones wouldn't take it. > > Dara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:54:59 -0000 " maydara " writes: > > > And Dara, just to let you know that many if not most type Is don't need anything that makes you lose weight. I imagine that would be one of several reasons why I would not want to take it. > > work better, makes you lose weight and makes control easier I can't > > imagine why type ones wouldn't take it. > > Dara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:54:59 -0000 " maydara " writes: > > > And Dara, just to let you know that many if not most type Is don't need anything that makes you lose weight. I imagine that would be one of several reasons why I would not want to take it. > > work better, makes you lose weight and makes control easier I can't > > imagine why type ones wouldn't take it. > > Dara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I don't know if this is the information mentioned by Dr. Joe; I found this via a Google search: http://www.dhec.org/hormones_gastrointestinal.aspx?Ultimatemenu1B=Item7 Sorry if this has already been posted. Mike > Dr. Joe wrote about this in today's e-mail. He gave a site for > additional info on smylin and GLP-1 - http://www.dhec.org/ > > You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. > I have written them asking if this area is still under construction. > Perhaps it is my computer and someone else can succeed. > > I have been following GLP-1 for years. > > Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I don't know if this is the information mentioned by Dr. Joe; I found this via a Google search: http://www.dhec.org/hormones_gastrointestinal.aspx?Ultimatemenu1B=Item7 Sorry if this has already been posted. Mike > Dr. Joe wrote about this in today's e-mail. He gave a site for > additional info on smylin and GLP-1 - http://www.dhec.org/ > > You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. > I have written them asking if this area is still under construction. > Perhaps it is my computer and someone else can succeed. > > I have been following GLP-1 for years. > > Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 > You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. You click on hormones and a dropdown button appears. Then click on which hormones you want to read about. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Nothing happened for me, either, Helen. Sue On Monday, March 21, 2005, at 01:46 PM, Helen Mueller wrote: > > You are supposed to hit the hormone button, but nothing happens for me. > I have written them asking if this area is still under construction. > Perhaps it is my computer and someone else can succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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