Re: 8 years with Crohn's. 1 day with SCD... Need some Input. Please

[Guest guest]

oh dear - no -you can not touch that stuff - I had to jump in because

i'm tiny BUT was down to 83lbs and now 1 year in I am back to my 100 lb

weight - you don't need those things - they'll make it worse and

you'll never gain!!! - you must make yogurt the SCD way and start slow

to see if/when you handle it - I know nothing about jerky but sure

there's recipes around - but don't know when you can have it

did you read Breaking the vicious cycle - you really won't get it if

you don't - we are all here to help and have all made MANY mistakes

even after reading it but at least you'll have the right legal foods

around to start and do it right to get results - it won't be overnight

but as you heal you'll gain

hang in

stick with intro 2-5 days then 1 thing at a time

food/supplement/vitamin etc 1 at a time for a couple of days and write

veryhting down BM's foods etc

when you can add olive oil, avoc

make your " shake " twice a day from avoc ban yog and a bit of dil juice

if you handle it for extra calories or just a bit of water - so thick

and yummy - up the avoc if you want more fat but now I do 1/1 ratio

avoc/bana

aim for 3000 calories a day marilyn told me and I do still - but I've

uped my preot carbs a bit and chilled a bit with fat recently - but

just concentrate on helaing and welcome

Eileen

1 year scd

>

> I am very thin, but want some relief so I want to be disciplined and

> try this diet Again.

>

> 1-I do not know how to get sufficient amount of calories with this

diet.

> 2-Can I eat Beef Jerkey?

> 3-Is it ok to still take my Protein shakes? They are Whey Protein

> powder and I use Water, Not milk.. They are high in carbs, but im

> guessing they are monosacharrides, which the SCD diet likes.

> 4-No Milk WHATSOEVER?

>

> Will Eating Dannon yogurt from the food store ruin the diet? Or is

that

> ok.

>

> thank you much

>

[Guest guest]

oh dear - no -you can not touch that stuff - I had to jump in because

i'm tiny BUT was down to 83lbs and now 1 year in I am back to my 100 lb

weight - you don't need those things - they'll make it worse and

you'll never gain!!! - you must make yogurt the SCD way and start slow

to see if/when you handle it - I know nothing about jerky but sure

there's recipes around - but don't know when you can have it

did you read Breaking the vicious cycle - you really won't get it if

you don't - we are all here to help and have all made MANY mistakes

even after reading it but at least you'll have the right legal foods

around to start and do it right to get results - it won't be overnight

but as you heal you'll gain

hang in

stick with intro 2-5 days then 1 thing at a time

food/supplement/vitamin etc 1 at a time for a couple of days and write

veryhting down BM's foods etc

when you can add olive oil, avoc

make your " shake " twice a day from avoc ban yog and a bit of dil juice

if you handle it for extra calories or just a bit of water - so thick

and yummy - up the avoc if you want more fat but now I do 1/1 ratio

avoc/bana

aim for 3000 calories a day marilyn told me and I do still - but I've

uped my preot carbs a bit and chilled a bit with fat recently - but

just concentrate on helaing and welcome

Eileen

1 year scd

>

> I am very thin, but want some relief so I want to be disciplined and

> try this diet Again.

>

> 1-I do not know how to get sufficient amount of calories with this

diet.

> 2-Can I eat Beef Jerkey?

> 3-Is it ok to still take my Protein shakes? They are Whey Protein

> powder and I use Water, Not milk.. They are high in carbs, but im

> guessing they are monosacharrides, which the SCD diet likes.

> 4-No Milk WHATSOEVER?

>

> Will Eating Dannon yogurt from the food store ruin the diet? Or is

that

> ok.

>

> thank you much

>

[Guest guest]

I have to agree--if you're going to try the SC diet, please read

" Breaking the Vicious Cycle " and follow it stringently for one month.

You should be feeling better by then if it's the right diet for you.

My dd's GI doc said we can clearly see the SC diet is right for her

b/c she has gained tonsof weight and inches on the SC diet. Before,

we were stuffing her full of ice cream shakes and protein powder and

all she was doing was losing weight. As her GI pointed out, we had to

give her food she could digest before she could get any benefit from it.

Good luck.

Ellen in Boston

11 y /o dd w. Crohn's

scd since 5/06. Med-free for 5 months

[Guest guest]

I am one month into SCD and starting to feel a lot better. I

would love to gain 10 -15 lbs this year (at least) and would like to start

keeping track of my calories. My question is though – how do you know how many

calories all things baked with almond flour are?

Sylvia

SCD -01/09

CD -1999

From: BTVC-SCD

[mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of blackguitarmaker

Sent: February-05-09 10:33 AM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: 8 years with Crohn's. 1 day with SCD... Need

some Input. Please

oh dear - no -you can not touch that stuff - I

had to jump in because

i'm tiny BUT was down to 83lbs and now 1 year in I am back to my 100 lb

weight - you don't need those things - they'll make it worse and

you'll never gain!!! - you must make yogurt the SCD way and start slow

to see if/when you handle it - I know nothing about jerky but sure

there's recipes around - but don't know when you can have it

did you read Breaking the vicious cycle - you really won't get it if

you don't - we are all here to help and have all made MANY mistakes

even after reading it but at least you'll have the right legal foods

around to start and do it right to get results - it won't be overnight

but as you heal you'll gain

hang in

stick with intro 2-5 days then 1 thing at a time

food/supplement/vitamin etc 1 at a time for a couple of days and write

veryhting down BM's foods etc

when you can add olive oil, avoc

make your " shake " twice a day from avoc ban yog and a bit of dil

juice

if you handle it for extra calories or just a bit of water - so thick

and yummy - up the avoc if you want more fat but now I do 1/1 ratio

avoc/bana

aim for 3000 calories a day marilyn told me and I do still - but I've

uped my preot carbs a bit and chilled a bit with fat recently - but

just concentrate on helaing and welcome

Eileen

1 year scd

>

> I am very thin, but want some relief so I want to be disciplined and

> try this diet Again.

>

> 1-I do not know how to get sufficient amount of calories with this

diet.

> 2-Can I eat Beef Jerkey?

> 3-Is it ok to still take my Protein shakes? They are Whey Protein

> powder and I use Water, Not milk.. They are high in carbs, but im

> guessing they are monosacharrides, which the SCD diet likes.

> 4-No Milk WHATSOEVER?

>

> Will Eating Dannon yogurt from the food store ruin the diet? Or is

that

> ok.

>

> thank you much

>

[Guest guest]

i use fitday.com to check once in a while to see what i'm getting

you'd have to look at almonds pecans etc and then try to figure how

much you're getting per serving, bit tricky

eileen

> >

> > I am very thin, but want some relief so I want to be disciplined

and

> > try this diet Again.

> >

> > 1-I do not know how to get sufficient amount of calories with

this

> diet.

> > 2-Can I eat Beef Jerkey?

> > 3-Is it ok to still take my Protein shakes? They are Whey Protein

> > powder and I use Water, Not milk.. They are high in carbs, but im

> > guessing they are monosacharrides, which the SCD diet likes.

> > 4-No Milk WHATSOEVER?

> >

> > Will Eating Dannon yogurt from the food store ruin the diet? Or

is

> that

> > ok.

> >

> > thank you much

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> 1-I do not know how to get sufficient amount of calories with this

diet.

DCCC, butter, olive oil, avacado, banana, honey. the cheesecake is

delicious and full of calories/fat. there are plenty of ways to get

sufficient calories. don't let that hold you back. and eat plenty of

meals each day. i probably eat 5 meals each day and have been on the

diet for 1 year. i started the diet at 126 and my weight has

fluctuated from 123 - 131 over the last year. i'm 5'4 " so that's a

good weight. once you can tolerate yogurt you can make yogurt from

heavy cream and that will add a lot of calories.

> 2-Can I eat Beef Jerkey?

beef jerky is very advanced. boiled eggs are pretty portable. i

carried them and a salt and pepper shaker with me the first few

months on the diet. they were a real life saver. i can eat beef jerky

from time to time but my digestion still doesn't tolerate it in large

amounts.

> 3-Is it ok to still take my Protein shakes? They are Whey Protein

powder and I use Water, Not milk.. They are high in carbs, but im

guessing they are monosacharrides, which the SCD diet likes.

NO!!!!!!!

> 4-No Milk WHATSOEVER?

NO

> Will Eating Dannon yogurt from the food store ruin the diet? Or is

that ok.

No, it has to be made in accordance with the BTVC. commercial yogurts

are only fermented for about 4 hours and that doesn't get enough

lactose out. scd yogurt is fermented for 24 hours turning most of the

lactose into galactose (monosaccharide).

> thank you much

you are welcome and good luck to you!!!!

[Guest guest]

I use the Fitday computer program. You can " create " custom foods by

adding all the ingredients of a dish, and then telling it how many

servings it comprises. The program then does all the work of figuring

out the number of calories and nutrients based on how many servings

you eat. I'm not sure if this option is available with the free

account on their site though.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > I am one month into SCD and starting to feel a lot better. I would

> love to

> > gain 10 -15 lbs this year (at least) and would like to start

> keeping track

> > of my calories. My question is though - how do you know how many

> calories

> > all things baked with almond flour are?

> >

> > Sylvia

> >

> > SCD -01/09

> >

> > CD -1999