Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I know that my article is not related to this group ,but it might be useful. PLEASE read it. ============================== Guidance to The Truth Aöbdul Haqq (DTF WONG, China WHO I AM My name is Abdul Haqq (formerly known as D T F Wong). I am of Chinese origin and was born in Brunei Darussalam (which has a predominantly Muslim population). I am 36 years old and male. I left Brunei Darusalam in 1977 to further my education in UK and am now settled in London, UK. My education has mainly been at a missionary school (from kindergarten) related to the church and later for nearly 2 years at a Christian independent school in UK before entering College .. WHAT I WAS BEFORE I was born into a Christian (Protestant/Anglican) family who were (and still is) actively involved in the Church. In a secular society, one could add that I had also accepted and followed secular laws and customs. I remained a Christian till I was 27. WHAT I AM NOW I am now a Muslim - have been for nearly 9 years since I left Christianity. WHY I CHOSE ISLAM According to Islam, guidance is of two kinds: a) Guidance of Taufiq i.e. totally from Allah, i.e. Allah opens one's heart to receive the truth (from disbelief to Belief in Islamic Monotheism). Guidance of Irshaad i.e. through preaching by Allah's Messengers and pious preachers who preach the truth, i.e. Islamic Monotheism. In my case, the guidance from God is guidance of Taufiq. I say this because I was actively seeking the truth and was hardly preached by Muslims. When I was 23 (and in my last year in college), I became God-conscious in a way I was never really taught in Christianity. I looked out of my window and observed the signs of creation (e.g. sky, trees, people, etc.) and developed a strong belief in the existence of God. I was studying Architecture (in College) and for me - when I look at buildings I know that someone designed and built it. Same with the creation - the alternation of night and day, the bodily functions, etc. led me to believe strongly that there was a Creator. Christianity tend to push forward the concept Trinity which many can't explain and many accept to satisfy their spiritual instinct. I had no problems with Christianity at this point. However this new God-consciousness stayed with me. The way the Trinity was being 'pushed to the masses' by the Church as well as Christians left this new God-consciousness a personal experience for me. I had never studied Islam even though I grew up in a predominantly Muslim country. At that time in Brunei Darussalam, non-Muslims were exempt from Islamic Education. One day I was passing by a Muslim book shop and decided to enter (without any idea what I was looking for). I came across the Qur'an and decided to buy it. As any Muslim will tell you, the Qur'an instructs (time and time again) all mankind to observe the signs of creation around and affirm their belief in the Creator. This matched with the way that I had developed my new God-consciousness and I decided that there was truth in the Qur'an and Islam. The Qur'an also led me to question the authenticity of the Bible and the Trinity for the first time. I began searching and reading books questioning the authenticity of the Bible and the Trinity. Many Christians answer difficult questions on issues like the trinity with 'God can do anything'. I couldn't fault Islam and the knowledge I was gaining had a profound impact on me more so than Christianity. I was slowly deciding to switch to Islam. Islam had a simple purity that anyone would appreciate – i.e. without the complexity of issues such as the Trinity. Islam allowed mankind to have an intellectual conviction on fundamental matters of belief. It didn't leave the spiritual instinct in man to be satisfied by an emotional conviction such as one would say of idol-worshipping. The decision to become Muslim was personal. When I told my parents that I had done so, my mother asked two of my uncles (who were in priesthood) to communicate with me - trying to convince me that Christianity was right. They failed and decided that I was not dragged into a cult and that I had made an informed decision - so they left me to continue as a Muslim. As I continue learning and increasing my knowledge of the deen (religion) of Islam my faith in God increased. I became more aware of Christianity's lack of guidance for mankind. Church services was man-made, Christian festivals/celebrations was man-made, arguments as to whether to accept homosexuality in Christianity or Christians at war, etc. Islam had guidance for relationships between man/woman and God, between man/woman and himself/herself, and man/woman with other men/women. Islam had guidance on issues relating to economics, politics, education, social, legal/penal systems, etc. In Islam there is guidance on how God wants us to pray, how to conduct Friday prayers, what and how to celebrate, what is right and wrong, what the penalties for crimes are, how to set up the state, what the state should implement, how the ruler should rule, etc. Islam offered guidance on establishing a society based on divine guidance. Christianity placed heavy emphasis on faith/beliefs and seemed happy to co-exist in a secular world. Islam had laws and guidance for individuals and society. I believed this to be right - that the Creator would not leave the Created to argue and make laws of their own. The Creator knows best for the Creation. Anyone would follow instructions from the manufacturer to make best use of the manufactured item. Islam is submission to the will of God, our Creator. A Muslim is one who submits to the will of God, our Creator. Society will only function well and in peace when we all submit to the will of the Creator. I could not be a Jew - Jews are a chosen people (descendants of Judah of the tribe of Israel). Christianity I now see as a deviation from the real teachings of Jesus - leading mankind from guidance from God to guidance of man/woman. With a world dominated by man-made laws and the evident injustices in society, the time is ripe for a return to laws from the Creator - as Islam offers. I am convinced I made the right choice in becoming Muslim. ========================== For more information about Islam: http://www.geocities.com/fares22uae/links.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Hi Abdul! Geoff here. You wrote in part: " I had no problems with Christianity at this point. However this new God-consciousness stayed with me. The way the Trinity was being 'pushed to the masses' by the Church as well as Christians left this new God-consciousness a personal experience for me. I had never studied Islam even though I grew up in a predominantly Muslim country. " It is an unfortunate reality of the human condition that what we are raised with we do not often bother to study, even to answer questions that may arise. Then when something comes along that tickles our ears, or intrigues our curiosity, we studiously, and often erroneously, chase after it having already decided by default that the former must be wrong the latter right, and seeking only to grasp straws which reinforce these preconceptions. In your case, you speak of stumbling over the trinity. This reveals a lack of basic Old Testament study, especially of Isaiah, and word exegesis (word origins). Word exegesis s/be a primer for all Biblical study, lest the text be misunderstood and misinterpreted, as it so often is. If one does not undertake such study, how is one to know the " Sea " are the goyim -- the gentiles -- and the " land " are the chosen people, Israel (not just the tribe of Judah)? Study of the Word s/not be left to listening to opinions, lectures from a pulpit, or radio, or TV, but to actual reading of the source material -- not commentaries and opinions. By and large, Christians, like everyone else, tend to be lazy and take the easy way. In the USA there are many " christians " but most are Biblically illiterate. Thus, as you state, they retreat to 'God can do anything'. While this is true, it is not the sort of answer you needed. Hard evidence is more akin to your requirements and those of many people. Jesus dealt with this lovingly when he invited to put his fingers in the hole of his side. He did not rebuke , He recognized a real and God-wired need in for hard, factual evidence. was not going to allow himself to be deceived by his emotional desires. Your statement of your uncles, " (who were in priesthood) " also speaks to this dilemma. Priesthood is normally the envoy of Roman Catholicism, although other denominations use the term also. Not to belabor the point but suffice it to say, Catholicism does not have a history of encouraging independent reading and study of God's word, nor do Priests in general. Perhaps you may be well suited to do a bit more research on the founding of Islam, referencing Allah (the moon deity) its worship in the tribal customs of the Arabs amongst their 128 other deities; the manipulations to overcome other tribes and inculcate them to the same worship as a form of loyality; the background of Muhammed and his relationship with his wife; his belief that his dreams and visits by " the angel of light " were of Satan and the convincing of his wife they were from God, etc. There is more to your new faith than the Qur'an, and outside sources can be an aid before you deditate your heart, life and soul to obedience (that being the more literal meaning if Muslim -- one who obeys) to the moon god and set before you the unknowing inexactitude of the " balance scale " , Islam's recording angel on the right shoulder noting your good deeds and the one on the left noting the bad -- all to be weighed before Allah in the balance scale to determine if you enter heaven or hell with your only exception being death in Jihad, which death exempts not only you from the balance scale, but also your family. (This BTW, explains why families of Muslim suicide bombers celebrate.) Yes, perhaps a bit more unbiased serious study is in order for you, Abdul. You may have built a bridge, but you have no clue how the concrete will act in high wind, nor what the sheer shape at the leading edge of the prevailing aerial current will do to it. Your bridge is a wing. Geoff soli Deo gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/biblewho1.htm Some might say that it is all just a tool to be used more or less against us... Either way it is way way way off topic. Jeff Geoff wrote: >Hi Abdul! Geoff here. > >You wrote in part: > " I had no problems with Christianity at this point. However this new >God-consciousness stayed with me. The way the Trinity was being 'pushed to >the masses' by the Church as well as Christians left this new >God-consciousness a personal experience for me. > >I had never studied Islam even though I grew up in a predominantly Muslim >country. " > >It is an unfortunate reality of the human condition that what we are raised >with we do not often bother to study, even to answer questions that may >arise. Then when something comes along that tickles our ears, or intrigues >our curiosity, we studiously, and often erroneously, chase after it having >already decided by default that the former must be wrong the latter right, >and seeking only to grasp straws which reinforce these preconceptions. > >In your case, you speak of stumbling over the trinity. This reveals a lack >of basic Old Testament study, especially of Isaiah, and word exegesis (word >origins). > >Word exegesis s/be a primer for all Biblical study, lest the text be >misunderstood and misinterpreted, as it so often is. If one does not >undertake such study, how is one to know the " Sea " are the goyim -- the >gentiles -- and the " land " are the chosen people, Israel (not just the tribe >of Judah)? Study of the Word s/not be left to listening to opinions, >lectures from a pulpit, or radio, or TV, but to actual reading of the source >material -- not commentaries and opinions. > >By and large, Christians, like everyone else, tend to be lazy and take the >easy way. In the USA there are many " christians " but most are Biblically >illiterate. Thus, as you state, they retreat to 'God can do anything'. >While this is true, it is not the sort of answer you needed. Hard evidence >is more akin to your requirements and those of many people. Jesus dealt >with this lovingly when he invited to put his fingers in the hole of >his side. He did not rebuke , He recognized a real and God-wired need >in for hard, factual evidence. was not going to allow himself >to be deceived by his emotional desires. > >Your statement of your uncles, " (who were in priesthood) " also speaks to >this dilemma. Priesthood is normally the envoy of Roman Catholicism, >although other denominations use the term also. Not to belabor the point >but suffice it to say, Catholicism does not have a history of encouraging >independent reading and study of God's word, nor do Priests in general. > >Perhaps you may be well suited to do a bit more research on the founding of >Islam, referencing Allah (the moon deity) its worship in the tribal customs >of the Arabs amongst their 128 other deities; the manipulations to overcome >other tribes and inculcate them to the same worship as a form of loyality; >the background of Muhammed and his relationship with his wife; his belief >that his dreams and visits by " the angel of light " were of Satan and the >convincing of his wife they were from God, etc. > >There is more to your new faith than the Qur'an, and outside sources can be >an aid before you deditate your heart, life and soul to obedience (that >being the more literal meaning if Muslim -- one who obeys) to the moon god >and set before you the unknowing inexactitude of the " balance scale " , >Islam's recording angel on the right shoulder noting your good deeds and the >one on the left noting the bad -- all to be weighed before Allah in the >balance scale to determine if you enter heaven or hell with your only >exception being death in Jihad, which death exempts not only you from the >balance scale, but also your family. (This BTW, explains why families of >Muslim suicide bombers celebrate.) > >Yes, perhaps a bit more unbiased serious study is in order for you, Abdul. >You may have built a bridge, but you have no clue how the concrete will act >in high wind, nor what the sheer shape at the leading edge of the prevailing >aerial current will do to it. Your bridge is a wing. > >Geoff > >soli Deo gloria > > > > >To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/biblewho1.htm Some might say that it is all just a tool to be used more or less against us... Either way it is way way way off topic. Jeff Geoff wrote: >Hi Abdul! Geoff here. > >You wrote in part: > " I had no problems with Christianity at this point. However this new >God-consciousness stayed with me. The way the Trinity was being 'pushed to >the masses' by the Church as well as Christians left this new >God-consciousness a personal experience for me. > >I had never studied Islam even though I grew up in a predominantly Muslim >country. " > >It is an unfortunate reality of the human condition that what we are raised >with we do not often bother to study, even to answer questions that may >arise. Then when something comes along that tickles our ears, or intrigues >our curiosity, we studiously, and often erroneously, chase after it having >already decided by default that the former must be wrong the latter right, >and seeking only to grasp straws which reinforce these preconceptions. > >In your case, you speak of stumbling over the trinity. This reveals a lack >of basic Old Testament study, especially of Isaiah, and word exegesis (word >origins). > >Word exegesis s/be a primer for all Biblical study, lest the text be >misunderstood and misinterpreted, as it so often is. If one does not >undertake such study, how is one to know the " Sea " are the goyim -- the >gentiles -- and the " land " are the chosen people, Israel (not just the tribe >of Judah)? Study of the Word s/not be left to listening to opinions, >lectures from a pulpit, or radio, or TV, but to actual reading of the source >material -- not commentaries and opinions. > >By and large, Christians, like everyone else, tend to be lazy and take the >easy way. In the USA there are many " christians " but most are Biblically >illiterate. Thus, as you state, they retreat to 'God can do anything'. >While this is true, it is not the sort of answer you needed. Hard evidence >is more akin to your requirements and those of many people. Jesus dealt >with this lovingly when he invited to put his fingers in the hole of >his side. He did not rebuke , He recognized a real and God-wired need >in for hard, factual evidence. was not going to allow himself >to be deceived by his emotional desires. > >Your statement of your uncles, " (who were in priesthood) " also speaks to >this dilemma. Priesthood is normally the envoy of Roman Catholicism, >although other denominations use the term also. Not to belabor the point >but suffice it to say, Catholicism does not have a history of encouraging >independent reading and study of God's word, nor do Priests in general. > >Perhaps you may be well suited to do a bit more research on the founding of >Islam, referencing Allah (the moon deity) its worship in the tribal customs >of the Arabs amongst their 128 other deities; the manipulations to overcome >other tribes and inculcate them to the same worship as a form of loyality; >the background of Muhammed and his relationship with his wife; his belief >that his dreams and visits by " the angel of light " were of Satan and the >convincing of his wife they were from God, etc. > >There is more to your new faith than the Qur'an, and outside sources can be >an aid before you deditate your heart, life and soul to obedience (that >being the more literal meaning if Muslim -- one who obeys) to the moon god >and set before you the unknowing inexactitude of the " balance scale " , >Islam's recording angel on the right shoulder noting your good deeds and the >one on the left noting the bad -- all to be weighed before Allah in the >balance scale to determine if you enter heaven or hell with your only >exception being death in Jihad, which death exempts not only you from the >balance scale, but also your family. (This BTW, explains why families of >Muslim suicide bombers celebrate.) > >Yes, perhaps a bit more unbiased serious study is in order for you, Abdul. >You may have built a bridge, but you have no clue how the concrete will act >in high wind, nor what the sheer shape at the leading edge of the prevailing >aerial current will do to it. Your bridge is a wing. > >Geoff > >soli Deo gloria > > > > >To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 That is very true because the uneducated person does not know how to interpret the Bible. Hence, we have so many other religions due to folks deciding what they want instead of following the Word. Pray the ry Priesthood is normally the envoy of Roman Catholicism, > although other denominations use the term also. Not to belabor the point > but suffice it to say, Catholicism does not have a history of encouraging > independent reading and study of God's word, nor do Priests in general. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.3 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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