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I have silicone and love every cc of it! I have friends who have both...yes,

I've felt them just so I can decide for myself before I had my implants placed.

The only thing I plan on re-doing in regards to my breasts is eventually get

them replaced w/ smaller ones....like a C cup, but that's way down the road.

None of the women were post WLS, just normal bods.

The ones that have saline placed over the breast muscle, NOT under feel gross

and look obvious. Interestingly enough, all of these women are strippers or

porn and like the *look*. Go figure!

The woman who does my manicures/pedicures has saline and had them placed under

the breast muscle. To me they look great and feel great. Maybe Felicia and

Vicki can give some input since she was at the wedding.

My aunt has silicone (bilateral breast cancer survivor) and hers has

encapsulated. So I don't think anyone is immune to encapsulation be it

silicone or saline.

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I am leaning toward the gels.

Votes? Opinions? Like everyone else, I go where the experience is.

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Who was she? I don't remember her at all. Describe her, or maybe

what she was wearing.

My take on implants is that they aren't a good idea. Not just

because of the medical side effects, the risk, but also I just don't

think they look good. I think they look fake, even if they are under

the muscle, silicone, gel, whatever.

Why not get the breasts built up with the extra skin? They can do

that, you know. Like Vicki said, it's called a Pedicle. With all of

the extra skin we have, they can make them bigger. And our bodies

won't reject them like we do the implants.

The thing that bothers me most about implants after WLS is that they

REMIND me of being fat. They LOOK fat. Just the truth, they look

like a fat person's boobs, just harder. They catch food and drink on

the " shelf. " They are in the way, literally sitting on the table

while at a restaurant. Under clothing and a bra, they look no

different than when we were fat, and that is what I can't handle. I

absolutely cannot deal with it. I could never have them, would never

have them. But like I said, just a personal preference, no offense

to any of you. You probably shouldn't have asked *my* opinion,

hahaha!

Oh, btw, yours look like porn breasts, too, so don't even try to play

that off, you stripper girl! , too, they are like, " Hey, big

daddy, come here and give me a tip! " Wooohooo, right in the face.

Okay, now, as usual, I have to tie this into WLS, so I can be ON-

TOPIC. Hmmm, oh, duh, it's easy. I obviously still have the mindset

of seeing breasts as FAT, as morbidly obese. That is the tie in. My

mind will NOT accept that breasts don't equal MO to everyone. My

problem...psychological. I need help...Dr. Lector, Hannibal, where

are you when I need you?????

Flat Felicia :)

36 AA and proud of it

Charter member: IBTC International

> I have silicone and love every cc of it! I have friends who have

both...yes, I've felt them just so I can decide for myself before I

had my implants placed. The only thing I plan on re-doing in

regards to my breasts is eventually get them replaced w/ smaller

ones....like a C cup, but that's way down the road. None of the

women were post WLS, just normal bods.

>

> The ones that have saline placed over the breast muscle, NOT under

feel gross and look obvious. Interestingly enough, all of these

women are strippers or porn and like the *look*. Go figure!

>

> The woman who does my manicures/pedicures has saline and had them

placed under the breast muscle. To me they look great and feel

great. Maybe Felicia and Vicki can give some input since she was at

the wedding.

>

> My aunt has silicone (bilateral breast cancer survivor) and hers

has encapsulated. So I don't think anyone is immune to

encapsulation be it silicone or saline.

>

> O

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<<I obviously still have the mindset of seeing breasts as FAT, as morbidly

obese. That is the tie in. My mind will NOT accept that breasts don't

equal MO to everyone. >>

Whoa there girl! I'm guessing you didn't have large breasts pre-weight gain.

I did! And I liked 'em! :-) But then, I always was a girly girl. Along

with my gain of 130 lbs., my breasts naturally got even bigger...big to the

point of being humiliating I must admit. But I certainly don't equate

" normally' large breasts with obesity! I can't imagine me without them and

don't want to. I would feel...well...empty, I think. I was in a D cup by the

time I was 13. My goal now is to get back down to that, and have them where

they're supposed to be...and I will need surgery to accomplish that. They

are in such a sad state right now. :-(

Funny how differently we perceive things. To you they say FAT...to me they

say FEMININE!

A. in Indy

SRVG on 4-11-00

Dr. Huse

St. 's Carmel, IN

Pre-op BMI 47, Pre-op Weight 278 lbs.

As of 4-30-01, -111 lbs. and weighing in at 167!

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Mine are presently under the muscle. Ow. I'd do it that way again, though.

Now, Felicia thinks you & I both have hooker chests! LOL. She prefers the flat

look, so we look HUGE to her eye. I preferred to match the original equipment.

Today, I'm just pouting that I even had to ever do anything about it. Every now

and then the obesity disease makes me mad all over again. I am OK with the

treatment when I remind myself that I didn't get to vote on whether I'd have

this disease or not. But sometimes, it inconveniences me to deal with all the

peripherals that accompany the treatment.

THEN, I remember that I would not have any choices at all had I remained morbid.

I'd have been long dead these many years.

Thanks,

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I have silicone and love every cc of it! I have friends who have both...yes,

I've felt them just so I can decide for myself before I had my implants placed.

The only thing I plan on re-doing in regards to my breasts is eventually get

them replaced w/ smaller ones....like a C cup, but that's way down the road.

None of the women were post WLS, just normal bods.

The ones that have saline placed over the breast muscle, NOT under feel gross

and look obvious. Interestingly enough, all of these women are strippers or

porn and like the *look*. Go figure!

The woman who does my manicures/pedicures has saline and had them placed under

the breast muscle. To me they look great and feel great. Maybe Felicia and

Vicki can give some input since she was at the wedding.

My aunt has silicone (bilateral breast cancer survivor) and hers has

encapsulated. So I don't think anyone is immune to encapsulation be it

silicone or saline.

O

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From: Vitalady

I am leaning toward the gels.

Votes? Opinions? Like everyone else, I go where the experience is.

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In a message dated 6/13/01 1:20:13 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

vitalady@... writes:

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and all,

My lift/ba was almost three weeks ago, under the muscle, saline. I have had

very little pain and am doing great. I wonder if procedures are easier now??

I had very little bruising and not much swelling after the first couple of

days. I protein-loaded for months before, took Bromelian and Arnica Montana,

and have healed in a flash.

Maybe, with all the information about preparing for surgery that you have and

have shared with us, this time will be easier.

hugs,

Ann

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I am with you . I always have had large breasts and they got enormous

when I was MO, but even after plastics I want a decent size such as a C or a

D. I guess a lot has to do with the way your body is built. Felicia looks

great with her tiny ones. I would look deformed........at least in my mind.

Michele (with one L)

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Girl, you have me pegged! I guess I should put at the bottom of my

posts that I am a gay male in a female's body. Or perhaps that I am

a dyke who is not gay? Okay, maybe that is TMI, hahaha. No, I

didn't have big breasts pre-MO. I didn't even have huge breasts when

I was MO, I think I was like a 42C, but they felt like boulders.

Felicia :)

On-Topic tie in: If you don't want your breasts to sag too badly

while you're losing your weight, wear sports bras around the clock

(yes, even to bed). They can be the low impact, cheapies from

Walmart (Hanes low impact 2 for $8.00), but they will keep you a

little higher, believe it or not. My PS even confirmed this.

Nothing will keep some of us from needing a breast lift (ME), but

they will keep the nipples pointing out, instead of straight to the

ground. I promise!

> Whoa

there girl! I'm guessing you didn't have large breasts pre-weight

gain.

> I did! And I liked 'em! :-) But then, I always was a girly girl.

Along

> with my gain of 130 lbs., my breasts naturally got even

bigger...big to the

> point of being humiliating I must admit. But I certainly don't

equate

> " normally' large breasts with obesity! I can't imagine me without

them and

> don't want to. I would feel...well...empty, I think. I was in a D

cup by the

> time I was 13. My goal now is to get back down to that, and have

them where

> they're supposed to be...and I will need surgery to accomplish

that. They

> are in such a sad state right now. :-(

>

> Funny how differently we perceive things. To you they say FAT...to

me they

> say FEMININE!

>

> A. in Indy

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Judging by everyone else's recovery and lack of pain, I'm wondering if it is the

method at that clinic. I am NOT going back there, even though it might be

financially better if I did. Too scared.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

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In a message dated 6/13/01 1:20:13 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

vitalady@... writes:

Mine are presently under the muscle

and all,

My lift/ba was almost three weeks ago, under the muscle, saline. I have had

very little pain and am doing great. I wonder if procedures are easier now??

I had very little bruising and not much swelling after the first couple of

days. I protein-loaded for months before, took Bromelian and Arnica Montana,

and have healed in a flash.

Maybe, with all the information about preparing for surgery that you have and

have shared with us, this time will be easier.

hugs,

Ann

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