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I say do whatever helps you stay on program. If that means saving

points for evening eating/snacking, then so be it. As long as its

reasonable, there is nothing wrong with tailoring your daily points

to fit your schedule/preferences. I also enjoy nighttime snacking. I

usually have 2-3 points for breakfast, 6-8 points for lunch, 2 points

for afternoon snack, and the rest of mine at night, eating all my

activity points. My fav is a skinny cow sundae: I put a skinny cow in

a bowl, top it with a couple of tablespoons of FF cool whip and a

teaspoon of chocolate sprinkes for a delicious 3 point dessert I can

eat with a spoon.

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I've known some folks who have done that. Most people snack at night and

have bigger dinners, so it makes it easier for them.

Gymmie in Cali

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you eat between Christmas and Thanksgiving

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our lives when we are having tough times. Coach Joe Gibbs

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My WW leader said that we can start counting our daily points starting in the

evening if we feel like we're more of a night-eater.

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> My WW leader said that we can start counting our daily points

starting

> in the evening if we feel like we're more of a night-eater. Like

start

> your " day " at 4 pm and end at 3:59pm the next day. Apparently

this way

> of counting points is ok with WW 'cause she wouldn't suggest it if

> wasn't. That might eliminate your guilt over eating late, which

there

> is nothing wrong w/ anyways. ;)

I agree. Our ww leader says what matters is how many points you

consume in a 24 hour period. The time of day that 24 hour period

starts is up to the individual.

Terri in WI

>

>

> >

> >>

> >> I really do not know if this is good, but I have been eating

lighter

> >> during the day so that I have points to munch during the night

we I

> >> seem to crave food more. I hope to get away from this one day

but

> >> for now that is what is helping me to stick to the program.

> >>

> >>

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TY! It seems harder to lose the weight after you have a baby.

> Woohooo!! Congratulations !

> Maureen

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> Hi all

>

>

> Sorry, I have been MIA. I was doing this at home and it wasn't

> working and now I'm attending meetings. I lost 15 pounds in 7

weeks!

> Only one more to 10% and 15 more to goal!

>

>

>

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LOL!! Tell me about it! I have had three....13 years, 12 years, and 5 years.

I am still working to get all the weight off, of course I didn't start really

losing until last year.

Maureen

Hi all

>

>

> Sorry, I have been MIA. I was doing this at home and it wasn't

> working and now I'm attending meetings. I lost 15 pounds in 7

weeks!

> Only one more to 10% and 15 more to goal!

>

>

>

>

>

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Way to go, ! Glad that you've found something that's working for

you!

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> Sorry, I have been MIA. I was doing this at home and it wasn't

> working and now I'm attending meetings. I lost 15 pounds in 7

weeks!

> Only one more to 10% and 15 more to goal!

>

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LOL. I still tell people that I have baby fat to lose, but they all laugh when

they realize that he is 11 years old. I don't think that I can use that excuse

forever, so I will stay OP.

Rhonda

LOL!! Tell me about it! I have had three....13 years, 12 years, and 5 years.

I am still working to get all the weight off, of course I didn't start really

losing until last year.

Maureen

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Hi Chelle,

Welcome to the group, I'm glad you found us! Actually the people on

prednisone are just more outspoken it seems...LOL...me for one. Not many of us

are on it and it's normally reserved for those with high protein spills (over

3000mg/24hrs), and even then it's only used on a case by case basis. It's not a

drug to be taken lightly.

I'm also on fish oil (I do 6 caps daily) and there have been studies that

show it can help. Check out a good amount of info regarding fish oil on our

sister site at www.igan.ca Here's the direct link to the fish oil article

http://www.igan.ca/id67.htm It's one of those things that can't hurt and might

help so some nephs feel it's worth a shot. You also find some who think the

research isn't conclusive enough and don't recommend it.

I think the best thing you can do for yourself is what you have been doing.

Keep up with your regular checkups and labwork, keep your blood pressure under

control and follow any dietary recommendations made by your neph. Keeping your

b/p under control is the ONE thing we can control. If left unchecked high blood

pressure can cause kidney damage in and of itself, so good control of that is

key to preserving kidney function in the long term.

If you've had this disease for many years and are still getting " Things look

good " comments from your neph then you are probably in the 50-70% of us who will

never reach end stage. IgAN isn't a direct ticket to end stage renal failure,

only 30-50% of us will end up there and many of that group will take 20 years or

more to get there.

Welcome again to the group and have a very Happy Thanksgiving!

Amy G.

Hi All

Hello,

I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list for a few

days now and am already impressed with how much information and support is

shared.

I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so excited to

find this list and discover how many others there are with this condition. I am

the only one I've known all this time since I've been diagnosed.

I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I have to be on

a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor all along for about

nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to look for someone new, I'm

realizing how little I know about my kidneys or about IGA. I was just a kid

when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my parents and my doctor figure

things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and let them worry about IGA and what

it meant. I've really been lucky all this time so I figure whatever they had

decided was just fine. Even since going to college and moving out, I spent

years where I just did my thing and had my exam at the doc every four months or

so and never thought twice about anything.

Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed everyone here is,

I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how incredibly lucky I've been

health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing about every six months.

Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely no idea what my protein,

creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always get the results, but don't

pay attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they are fine by me. I'm

planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get all the boxes unpacked

from my move however. I believe my creatanine and function were really good,

but I have more protein than I should. My doc has always seemed fine with this,

but should I be? That's why I'm seeking you guys... I want to be informed and

learn what I can from the experience of others.

I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take twelve capsules

per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like a real non-solution, but

my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I also take one pill for high blood

pressure. It's called Avapro, and as long as I stay on it my bp is really good.

Has anyone on here had any experience with taking fish oil for their IGA?

Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or something similar, and so I was

curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or something.

As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and what I should

be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm doing currently seems

to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is there something else I should be

doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus in ten years or so, and so I really want

to be more informed.

Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to talking with

all of you and getting to know everyone better.

Happy Thanks Giving,

Chelle

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Hi Chelle,

Welcome to the group, I'm glad you found us! Actually the people on

prednisone are just more outspoken it seems...LOL...me for one. Not many of us

are on it and it's normally reserved for those with high protein spills (over

3000mg/24hrs), and even then it's only used on a case by case basis. It's not a

drug to be taken lightly.

I'm also on fish oil (I do 6 caps daily) and there have been studies that

show it can help. Check out a good amount of info regarding fish oil on our

sister site at www.igan.ca Here's the direct link to the fish oil article

http://www.igan.ca/id67.htm It's one of those things that can't hurt and might

help so some nephs feel it's worth a shot. You also find some who think the

research isn't conclusive enough and don't recommend it.

I think the best thing you can do for yourself is what you have been doing.

Keep up with your regular checkups and labwork, keep your blood pressure under

control and follow any dietary recommendations made by your neph. Keeping your

b/p under control is the ONE thing we can control. If left unchecked high blood

pressure can cause kidney damage in and of itself, so good control of that is

key to preserving kidney function in the long term.

If you've had this disease for many years and are still getting " Things look

good " comments from your neph then you are probably in the 50-70% of us who will

never reach end stage. IgAN isn't a direct ticket to end stage renal failure,

only 30-50% of us will end up there and many of that group will take 20 years or

more to get there.

Welcome again to the group and have a very Happy Thanksgiving!

Amy G.

Hi All

Hello,

I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list for a few

days now and am already impressed with how much information and support is

shared.

I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so excited to

find this list and discover how many others there are with this condition. I am

the only one I've known all this time since I've been diagnosed.

I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I have to be on

a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor all along for about

nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to look for someone new, I'm

realizing how little I know about my kidneys or about IGA. I was just a kid

when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my parents and my doctor figure

things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and let them worry about IGA and what

it meant. I've really been lucky all this time so I figure whatever they had

decided was just fine. Even since going to college and moving out, I spent

years where I just did my thing and had my exam at the doc every four months or

so and never thought twice about anything.

Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed everyone here is,

I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how incredibly lucky I've been

health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing about every six months.

Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely no idea what my protein,

creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always get the results, but don't

pay attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they are fine by me. I'm

planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get all the boxes unpacked

from my move however. I believe my creatanine and function were really good,

but I have more protein than I should. My doc has always seemed fine with this,

but should I be? That's why I'm seeking you guys... I want to be informed and

learn what I can from the experience of others.

I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take twelve capsules

per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like a real non-solution, but

my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I also take one pill for high blood

pressure. It's called Avapro, and as long as I stay on it my bp is really good.

Has anyone on here had any experience with taking fish oil for their IGA?

Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or something similar, and so I was

curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or something.

As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and what I should

be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm doing currently seems

to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is there something else I should be

doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus in ten years or so, and so I really want

to be more informed.

Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to talking with

all of you and getting to know everyone better.

Happy Thanks Giving,

Chelle

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Chelle,

I just wanted to say welcome to the group!

~Dana

Hi All

Hello,

I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list for a few

days now and am already impressed with how much information and support is

shared.

I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so excited to

find this list and discover how many others there are with this condition. I am

the only one I've known all this time since I've been diagnosed.

I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I have to be on

a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor all along for about

nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to look for someone new, I'm

realizing how little I know about my kidneys or about IGA. I was just a kid

when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my parents and my doctor figure

things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and let them worry about IGA and what

it meant. I've really been lucky all this time so I figure whatever they had

decided was just fine. Even since going to college and moving out, I spent

years where I just did my thing and had my exam at the doc every four months or

so and never thought twice about anything.

Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed everyone here is,

I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how incredibly lucky I've been

health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing about every six months.

Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely no idea what my protein,

creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always get the results, but don't

pay attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they are fine by me. I'm

planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get all the boxes unpacked

from my move however. I believe my creatanine and function were really good,

but I have more protein than I should. My doc has always seemed fine with this,

but should I be? That's why I'm seeking you guys... I want to be informed and

learn what I can from the experience of others.

I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take twelve capsules

per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like a real non-solution, but

my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I also take one pill for high blood

pressure. It's called Avapro, and as long as I stay on it my bp is really good.

Has anyone on here had any experience with taking fish oil for their IGA?

Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or something similar, and so I was

curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or something.

As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and what I should

be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm doing currently seems

to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is there something else I should be

doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus in ten years or so, and so I really want

to be more informed.

Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to talking with

all of you and getting to know everyone better.

Happy Thanks Giving,

Chelle

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Hi

Welcome to the group.

I didn't pay much personal attention to my IgAN for well over a decade. I

only became more interested after my biopsy in 1993. When it's the usual

slowly-progressive kind of IgAN as it is for the majority of people, I don't

think it makes much difference, until you start getting under 50% kidney

function territory.

Fish oil has been relatively common for IgAN patients (though certainly not

all of them) since the first study published by Dr. Donadio in 1994 or so.

I've written about it on www.igan.ca , as another member already mentioned.

It might or might not help in the long run, but it does not seem to be

harmful, so far anyway. Keep in mind I'm talking in the context of IgAN.

There are other kidney diseases where being on prednisone is a fact of life.

Prednisone is a powerful, heavy-hitter of a drug. The common wisdom has been

that the benefits don't outweigh the risks unless proteinuria is more than

mild (<1000mg/day), maybe more than moderate (>1000mg/day), and approaching

or into nephrotic range (3500mg/day). So, some people are on prednisone and

others are not. Moreover, nephrologists differ on when it becomes sensible

to use prednisone. Some recent studies seem to point to some benefit in mild

IgAN. But, I find these things come and go in cycles. Personally, I think

that, unless there's nephrotic range proteinuria, the significant problems

that prednisone causes may not be worth it. You can't be on it permanently,

and as soon as it's discontinued, the proteinuria may start coming back. So,

you could easily spend a good part of your life dealing with the problems of

prednisone in that kind of scenario, on one course of prednisone after

another. I personally think it's most useful to beat down an episode of

nephrotic range proteinuria. On the other hand, I wouldn't argue the point

if someone does want to be on it and has a nephrologist who is more

aggressive about its use. There is evidence for and against, kind of like

there is for fish oil..

Sometimes, I find it odd to see how easily prednisone is doled out for

kidney disease by some nephrologists for what are often marginal or

uncertain benefits, and yet it's so drastically limited for people who have

diseases like asthma for which oral prednisone can make dramatic, obvious

improvements.

I'm on dialysis now, since 2002, but it took at least 25 years to get there

from the first time blood was discovered in a urine sample. During that

time, I NEVER had heavy proteinuria, in fact, I never really had proteinuria

much higher than 1000mg/day. Yet, I still ended up on dialysis. Would I if I

had been on prednisone? Who knows. Maybe it would have bought me a few extra

years, I don't know. But I do know that I led a pretty normal life with

virtually no symptoms except high blood pressure during those 25 years. I'm

not sure I could say the same if I had been on prednisone during that time.

I actually was on prednisone for a week at a time a couple of times during

the 1990's, but it had nothing to do with my kidneys, and it wasn't exactly

a pleasant experience.

The only treatment I ever had was blood pressure medication. Now, there's

two ways to look at it. I had a great 25 years until I needed dialysis, or I

could have gone on even longer with some more aggressive treatment (maybe,

maybe not). This is something I will never know. Nobody will ever know,

because none of the " treatments " being used for IgAN have absolute,

clear-cut benefits in the long run, as far as is currently known. It's my

impression that some nephs are more aggressive these days though.

Good luck in finding a new neph.

Pierre

Hi All

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list for a

few days now and am already impressed with how much information and support

is shared.

>

> I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so excited

to find this list and discover how many others there are with this

condition. I am the only one I've known all this time since I've been

diagnosed.

>

> I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I have to

be on a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor all along

for about nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to look for

someone new, I'm realizing how little I know about my kidneys or about IGA.

I was just a kid when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my parents and

my doctor figure things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and let them

worry about IGA and what it meant. I've really been lucky all this time so

I figure whatever they had decided was just fine. Even since going to

college and moving out, I spent years where I just did my thing and had my

exam at the doc every four months or so and never thought twice about

anything.

>

> Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed everyone here

is, I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how incredibly lucky

I've been health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing about every

six months. Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely no idea what

my protein, creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always get the

results, but don't pay attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they

are fine by me. I'm planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get

all the boxes unpacked from my move however. I believe my creatanine and

function were really good, but I have more protein than I should. My doc

has always seemed fine with this, but should I be? That's why I'm seeking

you guys... I want to be informed and learn what I can from the experience

of others.

>

> I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take twelve

capsules per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like a real

non-solution, but my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I also take

one pill for high blood pressure. It's called Avapro, and as long as I stay

on it my bp is really good. Has anyone on here had any experience with

taking fish oil for their IGA? Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or

something similar, and so I was curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or

something.

>

> As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and what I

should be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm doing

currently seems to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is there

something else I should be doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus in ten

years or so, and so I really want to be more informed.

>

> Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to talking

with all of you and getting to know everyone better.

>

> Happy Thanks Giving,

>

> Chelle

>

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> Hi Chelle,

Glad you found this site. There are a lot of articles on how fish oil

can prevent kidney function from declining in studies, I would

definately stick with it and probably just as important is keeping

your BP controlled. I was unfortunate in that when I was diagnosed I

was at 20 % function already.

christine

> Hello,

>

> I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list

for a few days now and am already impressed with how much information

and support is shared.

>

> I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so

excited to find this list and discover how many others there are with

this condition. I am the only one I've known all this time since

I've been diagnosed.

>

> I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I

have to be on a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one

doctor all along for about nine years now. He was great, but now

that I have to look for someone new, I'm realizing how little I know

about my kidneys or about IGA. I was just a kid when I was diagnosed

and I mainly just let my parents and my doctor figure things out. I

implicitly trusted everyone and let them worry about IGA and what it

meant. I've really been lucky all this time so I figure whatever

they had decided was just fine. Even since going to college and

moving out, I spent years where I just did my thing and had my exam

at the doc every four months or so and never thought twice about

anything.

>

> Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed

everyone here is, I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and

how incredibly lucky I've been health-wise considering. I do the 24

hour urine thing about every six months. Even so, I sheepishly admit

that I have absolutely no idea what my protein, creatanine, or kidney

function levels are. I always get the results, but don't pay

attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they are fine by

me. I'm planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get all

the boxes unpacked from my move however. I believe my creatanine and

function were really good, but I have more protein than I should. My

doc has always seemed fine with this, but should I be? That's why

I'm seeking you guys... I want to be informed and learn what I can

from the experience of others.

>

> I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take

twelve capsules per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems

like a real non-solution, but my doc recommended it and it seems to

work. I also take one pill for high blood pressure. It's called

Avapro, and as long as I stay on it my bp is really good. Has anyone

on here had any experience with taking fish oil for their IGA?

Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or something similar, and so I

was curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or something.

>

> As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and

what I should be looking for. I also worry that, even though what

I'm doing currently seems to work and my kidnes seem to be doing

well, is there something else I should be doing? I don't want to be

on dyalasus in ten years or so, and so I really want to be more

informed.

>

> Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to

talking with all of you and getting to know everyone better.

>

> Happy Thanks Giving,

>

> Chelle

>

>

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Hi Amy,

Thanks so much for the fish oil article! That was really helpful to my

understanding of what it does. It's interesting how varied the results are on

its effectiveness. For some reason, despite some skepticism out there, fish oil

was the first thing my doctor recommended to me. I guess he had good

experiences with it... perhaps. I'm curious now.

Anyway, I have really had good luck with it. Don't know how it happened to work

for me, but I'm glad that it has. I also like it because it has no side-effects

for me. It's supposed to have other health benefits too, but I haven't noticed

anything specifically.

Amy, if you are already taking some fish oil, do you suppose you might ask your

neph about increasing your amount? I don't know if it would help since you have

such high protein, but I do recommend it. I've noticed that my dose is twice

what yours is, so perhaps the increase could be beneficial. Although, I'm not

sure exactly what my total amount is. I just know iI take six capsules at night

and six in the morning. I know there are different amounts per different types

of capsules, so I'll check on the exact amount for you. Regardless, maybe more

is better, maybe not. It's just my random suggestion given my own experience.

I do wonder about this line from the article however. It was the thing that

had me most concerned.

" ...At present, the most recent thinking is that while fish oil may slow

progression of the disease at first, it may not do

anything in the longer term... " This makes me worry that, even though I'm

controlled right now, I may not always be. Nevertheless, I suppose it's not

something to worry about just yet, maybe just something to talk about with my

new doc?

Anyway, thanks again for the article. Also, thanks for your warm welcome.

Everyone's been really great on here!

Chelle

Hi All

Hello,

I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list for a few

days now and am already impressed with how much information and support is

shared.

I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so excited

to find this list and discover how many others there are with this condition. I

am the only one I've known all this time since I've been diagnosed.

I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I have to be

on a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor all along for about

nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to look for someone new, I'm

realizing how little I know about my kidneys or about IGA. I was just a kid

when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my parents and my doctor figure

things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and let them worry about IGA and what

it meant. I've really been lucky all this time so I figure whatever they had

decided was just fine. Even since going to college and moving out, I spent

years where I just did my thing and had my exam at the doc every four months or

so and never thought twice about anything.

Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed everyone here

is, I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how incredibly lucky I've

been health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing about every six

months. Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely no idea what my

protein, creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always get the results,

but don't pay attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they are fine by

me. I'm planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get all the boxes

unpacked from my move however. I believe my creatanine and function were really

good, but I have more protein than I should. My doc has always seemed fine with

this, but should I be? That's why I'm seeking you guys... I want to be informed

and learn what I can from the experience of others.

I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take twelve

capsules per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like a real

non-solution, but my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I also take one

pill for high blood pressure. It's called Avapro, and as long as I stay on it

my bp is really good. Has anyone on here had any experience with taking fish

oil for their IGA? Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or something similar,

and so I was curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or something.

As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and what I

should be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm doing currently

seems to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is there something else I

should be doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus in ten years or so, and so I

really want to be more informed.

Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to talking with

all of you and getting to know everyone better.

Happy Thanks Giving,

Chelle

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Hi Pierre,

Wow, a lot of info there!

I've heard, from you and from many others, that Prednisone is pretty rough to be

on, so I'm glad that it wasn't my doc's first choice. Now, you said you weren't

and anything but bp meds for many years. How did that happen? I mean, did you

try other treatments and they not work, or were you just naturally mild for a

long time IGA-wise? I know that my doc at first told me that I likely had a

mild form and wouldn't need any treatment at all. This was great news to my

family and I at first, but didn't last. Some time after, my doc tested me

another time or two and then changed his mind. He said it was likely a more

aggressive form. He had me do a kidney biopsy in order to determine for sure.

BTW, a kidney biopsy at 13 seemed like a really big traumatic deal. *smile*.

Anyway, the point of that story was, is it typical to have different levels of

IGA? Are there different types or just different symptoms higher or lower in

severity? I'm curious because I noticed that my doc only gave me a bp med and

the fish oil after the biopsy. What was it that would have made him decide?

Sorry if this sounds a little clueless, but I am curious.

Thanks for listening to my questions all. Also thanks to Rita and Donna and

the others who wrote me nice welcome messages as well. Thanks guys!

Chelle

Hi All

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the list for a

few days now and am already impressed with how much information and support

is shared.

>

> I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was so excited

to find this list and discover how many others there are with this

condition. I am the only one I've known all this time since I've been

diagnosed.

>

> I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where I have to

be on a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor all along

for about nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to look for

someone new, I'm realizing how little I know about my kidneys or about IGA.

I was just a kid when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my parents and

my doctor figure things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and let them

worry about IGA and what it meant. I've really been lucky all this time so

I figure whatever they had decided was just fine. Even since going to

college and moving out, I spent years where I just did my thing and had my

exam at the doc every four months or so and never thought twice about

anything.

>

> Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed everyone here

is, I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how incredibly lucky

I've been health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing about every

six months. Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely no idea what

my protein, creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always get the

results, but don't pay attention, if the doc says they are fine... then they

are fine by me. I'm planning to study my last batch (from May) once I get

all the boxes unpacked from my move however. I believe my creatanine and

function were really good, but I have more protein than I should. My doc

has always seemed fine with this, but should I be? That's why I'm seeking

you guys... I want to be informed and learn what I can from the experience

of others.

>

> I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take twelve

capsules per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like a real

non-solution, but my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I also take

one pill for high blood pressure. It's called Avapro, and as long as I stay

on it my bp is really good. Has anyone on here had any experience with

taking fish oil for their IGA? Everyone seems to be taking Prednisone or

something similar, and so I was curious if the fish oil thing is uncommon or

something.

>

> As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and what I

should be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm doing

currently seems to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is there

something else I should be doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus in ten

years or so, and so I really want to be more informed.

>

> Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to talking

with all of you and getting to know everyone better.

>

> Happy Thanks Giving,

>

> Chelle

>

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Hi Chelle,

There is the most common type of IgAN, which is fairly benign and as

Amy has shared with you 50-70% never reach end stage with this type.

There is also a more aggressive IgAN, and if you have been followed

this long and have fairly stable labs, you do not have this type.

Other than that, we are just in different stages of progression, or

have differing levels of protein spill which is usually what triggers

the Prednisone treatment as Pierre explained so well in his email.

Hope this helps.

>

> Hi Pierre,

>

> Wow, a lot of info there!

>

> I've heard, from you and from many others, that Prednisone is

pretty rough to be on, so I'm glad that it wasn't my doc's first

choice. Now, you said you weren't and anything but bp meds for many

years. How did that happen? I mean, did you try other treatments

and they not work, or were you just naturally mild for a long time

IGA-wise? I know that my doc at first told me that I likely had a

mild form and wouldn't need any treatment at all. This was great

news to my family and I at first, but didn't last. Some time after,

my doc tested me another time or two and then changed his mind. He

said it was likely a more aggressive form. He had me do a kidney

biopsy in order to determine for sure. BTW, a kidney biopsy at 13

seemed like a really big traumatic deal. *smile*.

>

> Anyway, the point of that story was, is it typical to have

different levels of IGA? Are there different types or just different

symptoms higher or lower in severity? I'm curious because I noticed

that my doc only gave me a bp med and the fish oil after the biopsy.

What was it that would have made him decide? Sorry if this sounds a

little clueless, but I am curious.

>

> Thanks for listening to my questions all. Also thanks to Rita and

Donna and the others who wrote me nice welcome messages as well.

Thanks guys!

>

> Chelle

>

>

> Hi All

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I'm and I'm new to the list. I've been reading the

list for a

> few days now and am already impressed with how much information

and support

> is shared.

> >

> > I'm a junior in college and have had IGA since I was 13. I was

so excited

> to find this list and discover how many others there are with this

> condition. I am the only one I've known all this time since I've

been

> diagnosed.

> >

> > I mainly joined since I've moved to a new city and state where

I have to

> be on a search for a new nephrologist. I've had the one doctor

all along

> for about nine years now. He was great, but now that I have to

look for

> someone new, I'm realizing how little I know about my kidneys or

about IGA.

> I was just a kid when I was diagnosed and I mainly just let my

parents and

> my doctor figure things out. I implicitly trusted everyone and

let them

> worry about IGA and what it meant. I've really been lucky all

this time so

> I figure whatever they had decided was just fine. Even since

going to

> college and moving out, I spent years where I just did my thing

and had my

> exam at the doc every four months or so and never thought twice

about

> anything.

> >

> > Now that I'm reading this list and seeing how well-informed

everyone here

> is, I'm be beginning to realize how little I know and how

incredibly lucky

> I've been health-wise considering. I do the 24 hour urine thing

about every

> six months. Even so, I sheepishly admit that I have absolutely

no idea what

> my protein, creatanine, or kidney function levels are. I always

get the

> results, but don't pay attention, if the doc says they are

fine... then they

> are fine by me. I'm planning to study my last batch (from May)

once I get

> all the boxes unpacked from my move however. I believe my

creatanine and

> function were really good, but I have more protein than I

should. My doc

> has always seemed fine with this, but should I be? That's why

I'm seeking

> you guys... I want to be informed and learn what I can from the

experience

> of others.

> >

> > I have taken Omega 3 fish oil for about eight years. I take

twelve

> capsules per day and they seem to do the trick. This seems like

a real

> non-solution, but my doc recommended it and it seems to work. I

also take

> one pill for high blood pressure. It's called Avapro, and as

long as I stay

> on it my bp is really good. Has anyone on here had any

experience with

> taking fish oil for their IGA? Everyone seems to be taking

Prednisone or

> something similar, and so I was curious if the fish oil thing is

uncommon or

> something.

> >

> > As I look for a new kidney doc, I wonder what I should know and

what I

> should be looking for. I also worry that, even though what I'm

doing

> currently seems to work and my kidnes seem to be doing well, is

there

> something else I should be doing? I don't want to be on dyalasus

in ten

> years or so, and so I really want to be more informed.

> >

> > Okay guys, sorry this intro is really long. I look forward to

talking

> with all of you and getting to know everyone better.

> >

> > Happy Thanks Giving,

> >

> > Chelle

> >

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

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>

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No, we go to Childrens Hospital of Detroit

> Lori:

> I am so sorry to hear that 's labs aren't looking good. If I

were

> you, I sure would call and tell them that you are feeling confused

and

> concerned, and you would appreciate a call from your neph. You

need to

> have a decent explanation of what is going on.

> I hate to admit this, but I've forgotten, do you go to Cincy

Children's??

> , mom to Rob, 15

>

> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:56:43 -0000 " littlell523 " <littlell523@y...>

> writes:

>

> Hi everyone, Haven't been able to visit much this past couple of

> weeks, we have been really busy. How is everyone doing? Here I

> thought we were doing great and then went to the neph last

> Thursday. Well, this was the first time that we had seen this

> doctor, bedside manner he doesn't have. is now down to

50mg

> of pred for a month and then 40mg the next month, after telling me

> this he then said " We don't know if she is getting better, her

levels

> are all higher than when she left the hospital, so I need to run

> more tests on her " . Her BP has been really good, but then the

doctor

> says " you will hear from us in about 4-5 days and we will probably

> being putting her on a BP medicine for the protien spills, so you

> will really have to start watching her BP closer " . And then he

left,

> no thank you, no, let me explain, nothing. What the heck!! Am I

> missing something here. So, once again I feel like I'm on the

> roller coaster, just when things were sort of getting on an even

> level. What do you guys think?? Should I call and talk with her

> other doctor that we have known since she went into the hospital?

>

>

> Lori

> Mother of 12 year old

>

>

>

>

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Donna,

Good to hear from you, let us know how w/i goes...

Gail

Donna wrote:

Hi, guys! Thought I'd try to do a quick post. I'm reading everything, it just seems like as soon as I start to post, I have to get up and go do something else.

Barb...let us know what you find out with your MRI...hope it turns out to be something easily fixed.

Jodee...congrats on the job, that has to be a load off your mind!

Gail...I've been off plan for a couple of weeks now...thought I'd get back on this week, but haven't. Friday is WI, so maybe I can get motivated again by then.

Coco...I could sure use some of your exercising motivation...whew...I get tired just thinking about it!

Jon...where are you?????????

Everybody else....sorry I left out anyone...my alzheimers is kicking in again!

love you all,

D.

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Betsy, I am so sorry for your loss....my prayers are with you and your family...if you need someone to talk to, reach me on yahoo under dawnabelle75 on yahoo. I m her for amything you need hun...we all need to stick together and support each other thru asll the hard times as well as the good...thats what frioends are for! huggs and prayers, Dawn

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Betsy, I am so sorry for your loss....my prayers are with you and your family...if you need someone to talk to, reach me on yahoo under dawnabelle75 on yahoo. I m her for amything you need hun...we all need to stick together and support each other thru asll the hard times as well as the good...thats what frioends are for! huggs and prayers, Dawn

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