Re: Re: Sypmtomatic Beginners?

[Guest guest]

> Jodi,

>

> Again thanks! Can you explain the off flares?

>

> I know I read in the book around 2-3 months symptoms may return, is

> this what you are referencing?

>

> And I have the list from pecan intro list from pecanbread. Is it best

> to just go down the list with 2-3 days in b/w each new addition?

>

> My problem is I am hungry! I know we are not limited as to amount but

> ne can only ingest so much green beans, or carrots (which I have

> limited as I have noticed more orange in my stool.

You don't have to do it precisely that way - that's just a guide to help

you. Some people can do the more *advanced* food early and the

*beginning* food give them trouble.

So that's just to give you an idea. If you try a food from the

intermediate

columns and you're fine with that, than don't worry about it.

Can you eat eggs? It is very satiating to put a soft boiled egg into

your

chicken soup and stir it around - makes it taste quite rich.

Mara

[Guest guest]

>

>

> If you are still symptomatic, how have you progressed through the

> foods? This is my biggest question?

You'll be able to tell the difference between foods that allow you

to keep healing, moving in a positive direction, or foods where

you maintain the same base level - both of which you can add in

- and foods that have a deleterious effect on your progression.

How long were you ill before you started the diet? This also has

a lot to do with how fast or slowly you heal.

Also keep in mind that your progression will not be not linear but

zig zaggy. You'll go forwards and back, which can be tough at time

- during the retrogressions - so it is important to be aware of it.

And while you might keep being symptomatic in some ways -

depending on how long or how severely you had your illness

- in other ways your health will improve. For instance,

energy levels, state of mind, mental acuity, general

well being, staving off depression-mental health, clearer

skin, reduced pain, etc. all these things, which are also related

to gut health, can be part of the improvement cycle.

Also, it is worth checking out Low Dose Naltrexone:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lowdosenaltrexone/

This modulates your immune system so that it functions

better by allowing the body to produce more endorphins -

which are crucial for the healthy running of the immune

system

Not to mention their other benefits - for example, athletes

produce endorphins during exercise, they get endorphin

floods which produce that euphoric feeling after exercise,

runners high or after heart openings in yoga. I used to

get that regularly after playing volleyball and doing krav

mega. Last week I got it during the closing yoga exercise.

Which is also a natural anti-depressant, etc.

For a few weeks, soon after beginning LDN, I was getting that

sensation daily, like clockwork, a few hours after taking LDN.

Which was a great incentive to keep on wanting to

take it. <vbg> I've never had such warm fuzzy feelings for

a drug before.

Mara

[Guest guest]

I’m trying to figure out what LDN is? Something you ingest or

do? Pre-scribed by a doctor or naturopath?

Sylvia

SCD – 1 month

CD - 1999

From: BTVC-SCD

[mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Mara Schiffren

Sent: January-31-09 8:56 AM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: Re: Sypmtomatic Beginners?

>

>

> If you are still symptomatic, how have you progressed through the

> foods? This is my biggest question?

You'll be able to tell the difference between foods that allow you

to keep healing, moving in a positive direction, or foods where

you maintain the same base level - both of which you can add in

- and foods that have a deleterious effect on your progression.

How long were you ill before you started the diet? This also has

a lot to do with how fast or slowly you heal.

Also keep in mind that your progression will not be not linear but

zig zaggy. You'll go forwards and back, which can be tough at time

- during the retrogressions - so it is important to be aware of it.

And while you might keep being symptomatic in some ways -

depending on how long or how severely you had your illness

- in other ways your health will improve. For instance,

energy levels, state of mind, mental acuity, general

well being, staving off depression-mental health, clearer

skin, reduced pain, etc. all these things, which are also related

to gut health, can be part of the improvement cycle.

Also, it is worth checking out Low Dose Naltrexone:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lowdosenaltrexone/

This modulates your immune system so that it functions

better by allowing the body to produce more endorphins -

which are crucial for the healthy running of the immune

system

Not to mention their other benefits - for example, athletes

produce endorphins during exercise, they get endorphin

floods which produce that euphoric feeling after exercise,

runners high or after heart openings in yoga. I used to

get that regularly after playing volleyball and doing krav

mega. Last week I got it during the closing yoga exercise.

Which is also a natural anti-depressant, etc.

For a few weeks, soon after beginning LDN, I was getting that

sensation daily, like clockwork, a few hours after taking LDN.

Which was a great incentive to keep on wanting to

take it. <vbg> I've never had such warm fuzzy feelings for

a drug before.

Mara

[Guest guest]

I’m trying to figure out what LDN is? Something you ingest or

do? Pre-scribed by a doctor or naturopath?

Sylvia

SCD – 1 month

CD - 1999

From: BTVC-SCD

[mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Mara Schiffren

Sent: January-31-09 8:56 AM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: Re: Sypmtomatic Beginners?

>

>

> If you are still symptomatic, how have you progressed through the

> foods? This is my biggest question?

You'll be able to tell the difference between foods that allow you

to keep healing, moving in a positive direction, or foods where

you maintain the same base level - both of which you can add in

- and foods that have a deleterious effect on your progression.

How long were you ill before you started the diet? This also has

a lot to do with how fast or slowly you heal.

Also keep in mind that your progression will not be not linear but

zig zaggy. You'll go forwards and back, which can be tough at time

- during the retrogressions - so it is important to be aware of it.

And while you might keep being symptomatic in some ways -

depending on how long or how severely you had your illness

- in other ways your health will improve. For instance,

energy levels, state of mind, mental acuity, general

well being, staving off depression-mental health, clearer

skin, reduced pain, etc. all these things, which are also related

to gut health, can be part of the improvement cycle.

Also, it is worth checking out Low Dose Naltrexone:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lowdosenaltrexone/

This modulates your immune system so that it functions

better by allowing the body to produce more endorphins -

which are crucial for the healthy running of the immune

system

Not to mention their other benefits - for example, athletes

produce endorphins during exercise, they get endorphin

floods which produce that euphoric feeling after exercise,

runners high or after heart openings in yoga. I used to

get that regularly after playing volleyball and doing krav

mega. Last week I got it during the closing yoga exercise.

Which is also a natural anti-depressant, etc.

For a few weeks, soon after beginning LDN, I was getting that

sensation daily, like clockwork, a few hours after taking LDN.

Which was a great incentive to keep on wanting to

take it. <vbg> I've never had such warm fuzzy feelings for

a drug before.

Mara

[Guest guest]

It can be a pill or a subdural cream depending on how it iscompounded. Prescribed by a doctor. MaraI’m trying to figure out what LDN is? Something you ingest or do? Pre-scribed by a doctor or naturopath? SylviaSCD – 1 monthCD - 1999

[Guest guest]

> Mara,

>

> I can eat egg! I eat a lot of egg! I love them! I received my

> diagnosis on October 2008. I have not been ill long but I have had a

> heck of a ride---lost 50lbs b/c of severe CD. I have inflammation

> throughout the small bowel and terminal ileum so I have absorption

> issues. The one saving grace for me right now is my TPN line pumping

> about 3000 calories a day into my veins.

>

> SO.....I have added some advanced foods like raw fruit...oranges

> aren't giving me any issues....just had one actually....

>

> Allowable cheeses aren't an issue either like I had baked talapia w/

> havarti cheese and green beans...

>

> but again...lin pointed out the steroids may be " masking " any

> effects i may be having BUT before I even came close to SCD dieting,

> If I ate sugar or pure dairy I was sent running for the toilet w/

> steroids so.....I'm not sure how much " masking " may be occurring...

>

> I'll be honest I started the diet weeks ago...fell off the wagon and

> ate some illegals and wanted to get back on strict SCD....everyone

> recommended I start over w/ the intro diet...please see other postings

> from me for my story and questions.

> Any thoughts?

I read the other stuff, but don't remember how long you were ill.

Also sometimes people have symptoms for years before they

get ill enough to be hospitalized or they feel they better do something

because the drugs aren't working enough any more and their symptoms

are worse, etc.

My advice, stay away from raw fruit at this point.

If you want fruit, make some (a lot) apple or pear sauce - it's

delicious.

Serve it warm with butter, clarified butter if you don't do dairy, or

coconut

oil and cinnamon.

Also get some vitamin D3 - check to see that it is legal - and start

taking it regularly.

Mara

[Guest guest]

I didn't taper off my meds. I just stopped because I knew my body had healed enough. But I don't recommend this because I know this is not what you are supposed to do. No symptoms returned. I didn't tell my GI for ages - he continued giving me prescriptions. Later I told him and he agreed. He never once mentioned diet to me but even later I told him I was on SCD and he was most impressed.

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