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"I apologize if I am a little inpatient! I am angry that what((seems)) to be overnight, I became ill"

The diet has been the key to helping me get better, but I have done other things, like yoga and biological decoding (hope I'm not too off list). I had a lot of issues to deal with. I was struck by the statement above about anger, because in biological decoding the theory is that inflammation in the intestines is linked to repressed anger. I had to search for a long time before I realised that I spent most of my childhood being extremely angry but not being able to express it.

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>Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:31:48 -0000

>

>Subject: Re: Quitting SCD?????

>To: BTVC-SCD

>

>> I do have a question about intro of foods. When you intro foods, do

>> you just look for changes in bowel habits, pain and gas?

Initially. After a while, you may start to look further afield as well,

into other lingering symptoms. But that will take a while to get

there.

>>I've never

>> had a problem w/ pain or gas, just diarrhea? I made soup and cannot

>> do carrots, they come out as they went in. I'm going to try green

>> beans while on the intro.

>

>I have CD with constipation. Every one once in a while I have D. My

>problems with CD are mostly gas and pain. That's what I look for.

>Since you have D, I would think you would look for changes in your

>bowel movements. I've noticed the improvement most people on here see

>with D is that they go to the restroom less (from 20 to 10 times a

>day and reducing after that until finally they have formed bowels).

>

>> Can cheese be intro'd relatively early? It's on the intro so I

>> assume the answer is yes. I am not a big fan of DCCC, plain so I

>> substituted Cheddar. (I put it in my beef patties.)

As long as you tolerate it, anything can be intro'd early.

If you are having a lot of mucous - then dairy/cheese is

likely the culprit for that. Just something to keep in

mind. If not, and the cheese doesn't

bother you, you can intro it early. I think I intro'd it

by my second week - and I was fine with cheddar.

One good thing about the DCCC, however, is the cheese-

cake, which will also help you keep on weight - and it's yum,

so it is worth getting ahold of and using in baking. And I

bet the kid(s?) will like the cheesecake as well.

It's also really good mixed in scrambled eggs and other

foods - and helps to maintain weight. (I'm really good

at fattening foods - it's the other kind that's harder

for me, <vbg>!)

Thank you for your service. Have you been serving

here or abroad in the last few years? It must be

really difficult and disappointing to have to give it

up for health reasons.

Mara

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---- Original message ----

>Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:31:48 -0000

>

>Subject: Re: Quitting SCD?????

>To: BTVC-SCD

>

>> I do have a question about intro of foods. When you intro foods, do

>> you just look for changes in bowel habits, pain and gas?

Initially. After a while, you may start to look further afield as well,

into other lingering symptoms. But that will take a while to get

there.

>>I've never

>> had a problem w/ pain or gas, just diarrhea? I made soup and cannot

>> do carrots, they come out as they went in. I'm going to try green

>> beans while on the intro.

>

>I have CD with constipation. Every one once in a while I have D. My

>problems with CD are mostly gas and pain. That's what I look for.

>Since you have D, I would think you would look for changes in your

>bowel movements. I've noticed the improvement most people on here see

>with D is that they go to the restroom less (from 20 to 10 times a

>day and reducing after that until finally they have formed bowels).

>

>> Can cheese be intro'd relatively early? It's on the intro so I

>> assume the answer is yes. I am not a big fan of DCCC, plain so I

>> substituted Cheddar. (I put it in my beef patties.)

As long as you tolerate it, anything can be intro'd early.

If you are having a lot of mucous - then dairy/cheese is

likely the culprit for that. Just something to keep in

mind. If not, and the cheese doesn't

bother you, you can intro it early. I think I intro'd it

by my second week - and I was fine with cheddar.

One good thing about the DCCC, however, is the cheese-

cake, which will also help you keep on weight - and it's yum,

so it is worth getting ahold of and using in baking. And I

bet the kid(s?) will like the cheesecake as well.

It's also really good mixed in scrambled eggs and other

foods - and helps to maintain weight. (I'm really good

at fattening foods - it's the other kind that's harder

for me, <vbg>!)

Thank you for your service. Have you been serving

here or abroad in the last few years? It must be

really difficult and disappointing to have to give it

up for health reasons.

Mara

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First, thank you for your service to the United States of America.

An acquaintance of mine has as her sig, " A veteran is someone who,

at one point in his/her life wrote a blank check made payable to

" The United States of America " for an amount of " up to and

including my life. " That is Honor, and there are far too many people

in this country who no longer understand it. "

I suspect that definition holds true regardless of which nation the

veteran is serving.

If I understand what you are saying correctly, you may be due to

re-enlist, and with Crohn's Disease, you may not be permitted to do so.

Having your life plans majorly rearranged can't be easy. It's a very

stressful and emotional time -- I know. My plans for where things were

going got rearranged with a diagnosis of endometrial cancer about this

time last year. Then a diagnosis of complex sleep apnea. And finally, a

manager who has decided I am too old, too slow, and too crippled to work

for him.

Miracles do happen, but they often don't happen the way we want them to.

There's a story about a fellow who's on his roof top during a flood.

Canoe comes by, and the paddler says, " We'll take you to

safety, " but the fellow waves them on, and says, " God will take

care of me... " The same thing happens with a row boat, a motorboat,

and a helicopter. Up comes the water. The fellow drowns, and finds

himself standing before the Throne, objecting that this wasn't the way it

was supposed to be. Whereupon, Deity leans forward and says, " I sent

you a canoe, a rowboat, a motorboat, and a helicopter. What more did you

expect me to do? "

So. You've been sent the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and a community of

hundreds of people who are following this life-giving miracle.

You're incredibly fortunate to find it within a few months of becoming

ill -- I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of people who generally

just browse this list who were sick for a lot of years before they found

the diet, along with those who have already spoken up. I know I was.

The drugs are good -- the drugs, if given correctly, can alleviate the

critical symptoms. But in general, gut-drugs don't heal the gut -- you

have to keep taking them. SCD can, for many, heal the gut so that there's

a possibility of becoming med-free. There's no shame in needing meds. I

took pain meds after my surgery -- it would have been stupid to lie there

in agony. Same thing if the drugs you require help.

You've started the intro diet.

Now, keep eating all the foods you can eat on intro, and add something. A

cooked, peeled, seeded vegetable, like zucchini, say. Wait a few days.

Better? Worse? The same? If the same or better, you have something new in

your repertoire. Say you've been eating a lot of chicken. Well, add some

beef roast, maybe. Wait a few days. Better? Worse? The same? If the same

or better, you have something new in your repertoire.

And so forth. You have to do this with every food, and every

spice.

I'd focus first on getting a repertoire of meats which work for you --

you're already, apparently, OK with eggs. That gives you plenty of

protein, if you can do chicken, turkey, beef, pork, fish.

Then see about adding some healthy fats, like butter and olive oil. If

you are already using these, and are OK, great. But keep in mind

that some of us don't do well with too much fat at one time. (Kim M. and

I chuckle because she tolerates very little fat, and I need a fairly high

amount of it to feel well, yet we are both SCDers!)

Next try to add some well-cooked vegetables. I can't say my list will

work for you, but carrots and I just didn't get along. I did zucchini,

French-cut green beans, chopped spinach. Ironically, I could add broccoli

and cauliflower, which are often problematical for many people, fairly

early on, while still not tolerating carrots. (I remember posting my beef

and broccoli pie recipe to the list and having people moan about how

great it sounds, except they couldn't touch broccoli for

anything!)

Cheese is another one of those individual things. Some people do best on

a no-to-low dairy diet, while others (like me!) use liquid cheese in

their veins for carrying oxygen to their cells! My personal favorites

include cheddar, colby, and provolone. When buying provolone, make sure

you get plain provolone, without the artificial smoke flavor.

Have you set up the food diary I suggested to you yet? If you have,

great. If you haven't... consider yourself handed a stack of demerits!

I'm sure I can think of something you have to do in order to work those

demerits off!

Looking at what you posted, I'd ask, " How much juice are you

drinking, and is it diluted? " Also, I assume the " Jello "

is actually gelatin made with legal fruit juices? Be careful with the

fruits and juices... the bad bacteria in your gut can be yelling for

food, and even legal foods, if we consume too much of them or too

frequently or too soon can cause problems.

There's a reason, FYI, that I ask people to post to the list -- it's

because your story, or my story or someone else's story may prove helpful

and/or inspirational to other readers of this list. And someone else who

has stood in your shoes or my shoes may have some tip which will

help.

Eat well.

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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First, thank you for your service to the United States of America.

An acquaintance of mine has as her sig, " A veteran is someone who,

at one point in his/her life wrote a blank check made payable to

" The United States of America " for an amount of " up to and

including my life. " That is Honor, and there are far too many people

in this country who no longer understand it. "

I suspect that definition holds true regardless of which nation the

veteran is serving.

If I understand what you are saying correctly, you may be due to

re-enlist, and with Crohn's Disease, you may not be permitted to do so.

Having your life plans majorly rearranged can't be easy. It's a very

stressful and emotional time -- I know. My plans for where things were

going got rearranged with a diagnosis of endometrial cancer about this

time last year. Then a diagnosis of complex sleep apnea. And finally, a

manager who has decided I am too old, too slow, and too crippled to work

for him.

Miracles do happen, but they often don't happen the way we want them to.

There's a story about a fellow who's on his roof top during a flood.

Canoe comes by, and the paddler says, " We'll take you to

safety, " but the fellow waves them on, and says, " God will take

care of me... " The same thing happens with a row boat, a motorboat,

and a helicopter. Up comes the water. The fellow drowns, and finds

himself standing before the Throne, objecting that this wasn't the way it

was supposed to be. Whereupon, Deity leans forward and says, " I sent

you a canoe, a rowboat, a motorboat, and a helicopter. What more did you

expect me to do? "

So. You've been sent the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and a community of

hundreds of people who are following this life-giving miracle.

You're incredibly fortunate to find it within a few months of becoming

ill -- I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of people who generally

just browse this list who were sick for a lot of years before they found

the diet, along with those who have already spoken up. I know I was.

The drugs are good -- the drugs, if given correctly, can alleviate the

critical symptoms. But in general, gut-drugs don't heal the gut -- you

have to keep taking them. SCD can, for many, heal the gut so that there's

a possibility of becoming med-free. There's no shame in needing meds. I

took pain meds after my surgery -- it would have been stupid to lie there

in agony. Same thing if the drugs you require help.

You've started the intro diet.

Now, keep eating all the foods you can eat on intro, and add something. A

cooked, peeled, seeded vegetable, like zucchini, say. Wait a few days.

Better? Worse? The same? If the same or better, you have something new in

your repertoire. Say you've been eating a lot of chicken. Well, add some

beef roast, maybe. Wait a few days. Better? Worse? The same? If the same

or better, you have something new in your repertoire.

And so forth. You have to do this with every food, and every

spice.

I'd focus first on getting a repertoire of meats which work for you --

you're already, apparently, OK with eggs. That gives you plenty of

protein, if you can do chicken, turkey, beef, pork, fish.

Then see about adding some healthy fats, like butter and olive oil. If

you are already using these, and are OK, great. But keep in mind

that some of us don't do well with too much fat at one time. (Kim M. and

I chuckle because she tolerates very little fat, and I need a fairly high

amount of it to feel well, yet we are both SCDers!)

Next try to add some well-cooked vegetables. I can't say my list will

work for you, but carrots and I just didn't get along. I did zucchini,

French-cut green beans, chopped spinach. Ironically, I could add broccoli

and cauliflower, which are often problematical for many people, fairly

early on, while still not tolerating carrots. (I remember posting my beef

and broccoli pie recipe to the list and having people moan about how

great it sounds, except they couldn't touch broccoli for

anything!)

Cheese is another one of those individual things. Some people do best on

a no-to-low dairy diet, while others (like me!) use liquid cheese in

their veins for carrying oxygen to their cells! My personal favorites

include cheddar, colby, and provolone. When buying provolone, make sure

you get plain provolone, without the artificial smoke flavor.

Have you set up the food diary I suggested to you yet? If you have,

great. If you haven't... consider yourself handed a stack of demerits!

I'm sure I can think of something you have to do in order to work those

demerits off!

Looking at what you posted, I'd ask, " How much juice are you

drinking, and is it diluted? " Also, I assume the " Jello "

is actually gelatin made with legal fruit juices? Be careful with the

fruits and juices... the bad bacteria in your gut can be yelling for

food, and even legal foods, if we consume too much of them or too

frequently or too soon can cause problems.

There's a reason, FYI, that I ask people to post to the list -- it's

because your story, or my story or someone else's story may prove helpful

and/or inspirational to other readers of this list. And someone else who

has stood in your shoes or my shoes may have some tip which will

help.

Eat well.

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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> Now a more important question. Exercise. I obviously do not want to

> burn calories. The Good Lord knows I need them but what do you guys

> do for good 'ol exercise? I am really just a strength type of

> trainer. But am open to tips tricks.

As long as you are up to it, exercise is really good for helping

to manage illness, as it naturally boosts your endorphins,

which helps to modulate your immune system and makes

you feel better, helps to minimize pain, and is a natural anti-

depressant, etc.

So exercise however you enjoy exercising, that you feel

you have the energy for.

Mara

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Hi Randall,

I understand you want to exercise without expending too many precious calories.

Have you considered Pilates? It is highly recommended by physiotherapists and

doctors alike. It will build a strong core, and also improve flexibility (which

many males lack). Joint mobility and aching muscles, which often accompany

immune-response disease, can be significantly eased through Pilates. While

gentle enough for seniors or the chronically ill, Pilates can also be taken

progressively to the more advanced levels which challenge even the most fit. It

is important to get a good instructor who can critique your form, and not depend

on DVD's.

Vivien

Undiagnosed IBS

SCD - 12 months

No meds

>

> Subject: Re: Quitting SCD?????

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 2:16 AM

> You are absolutely right! Thanks for sharing your story

> with me! I

> am continuing with the diet and KNOW I will get off my meds

> eventually

> & in due time! Thanks again everyone and GOD BLESS!

>

> Now a more important question. Exercise. I obviously do

> not want to

> burn calories. The Good Lord knows I need them but what do

> you guys

> do for good 'ol exercise? I am really just a strength

> type of

> trainer. But am open to tips tricks.

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