age question

[Guest guest]

I recall that my first trip to a neurologist was when I was 48 or 49 and

that was for slurred and slow speech. I guess that puts me close to the

average

age. When I received my PLS diagnosis, in 1997, 4 years later, I was still

playing tennis a few times a week. I had to quit tennis about a year later.

So I guess I'm one of the rarer types that my PLS began with my speech

(descending PLS). One thing I recall is that the neurologist telling me if the

PLS begins a slow progression, it will continue at a slow progression. I

guess, in my case, that has stayed true although looking back at some of the

things that I could do a few short years ago that I couldn't possibly do now,

it's

hard to think that. My symptoms began in 1994 so I'm more than 10 years

into this and I'm still walking and talking so I consider myself fortunate.

Gentner, PLS

Fremont, CA

[Guest guest]

My symptoms started with my voice back in 1991 and that was my only symptom

for the next 5 years. During that time I was diagnosed with Spasmodic

Dysphonia. This effected the vocal cords making them spasms causing a

interruption

of speech and effected the voice quality. It sounded strained,tight,or a

strangled quality unlike other PLS'ers who's voice is slurred. I started botox

shots to relax those muscles making it possible to speak more clearly. I

was 44 at that time. Then in 1995 I slipped and fell in the rain and broke my

wrist. During my physical therapy my right leg started to stiffen up during

these sessions. I thought it was just nerves being in pain during the

physical therapy. It continued on during the healing process and then the

tripping

started and loss of balance. I went to a neurologist who first dx me as

having ALS. Only after a number of tests during the next year and not getting

any worse they changed it to PLS. The only test that showed any abnormal

signs was the EMG. I have a very slow progression I still walk with the aid of

a four wheel walker and still am able to cook maintain our home but yes at a

slow pace. I consider myself very luckily that I can do all of these things.

I don't drive due to my very very startle reflex condition. My neurologist

finds it hard to believe the strength that I still have in all parts of my

body but yet I cannot stand without hold on to something. I am now going to be

58. Bummer........that's my story....Flora

[Guest guest]

Hi Di; I usually don't spend much time here reading all the mail I get from

this web site, but when I saw your question I thought this PLs thing differs

for everyone.in severity & age. I am really fortunate that my case is

progressing so slowly & I am able to do do most of the things I really enjoy.

Art

classes, volunteering at a senior home doing an arts & craft project every

Monday & Thursday morning & some mild gym exercises. There is so much to this

saga.If you'd like I could write again. Thanks for listening, Sheela in Mtl.

[Guest guest]

dear ; My PLS saga sounds so much like yours. Slow, but when I look

back to the last 10 yrs I ca't believe the change. I walk like a drunk when I

don't have my cane, or my cast on my right leg., but I still drive & prefer

that to walking outside here in the winter. I love to draw & paint & slowly drag

myself to classes. Bridge is a fun pass time & I play rubber bridge 2x weekly

at friends houses . Reading all these messages have me convinced I'm quite

lucky & I will stay positive as long as I have this tremendous support from

friends, family & doctors. Keep in touch. sheela

[Guest guest]

To add to this,

My symptoms began in 1994, when I was 46. I really did not know they were

symptoms and they may even have started earlier. In Jan 1995, they became

really noticeable and I fell for the first time when my legs stiffened. I

fell against my secretary's desk and they loosened almost immediately, so I

did not go all the way to the floor. Then my gait changed to slow, then to

nonexistent. I had to be helped to my car after work that evening. It was

the last day I worked for 181/2 months. I received a diagnosis of PLS in May

1996, just before I turned 48. I will be 57 this year in May.

This puts me at about the median age, I guess. Wish I had won the monetary

lottery instead.

Mike Gray

Re: Age question

>

>

>>

>> Sandy.....thank you! Yes it does help.........I don't feel so 'abnormal'

>> ha!

>> Where are you now...if you don't mind me asking?

>>

>> I know PLS is supposed to progress slowly and evenlly....but mine was

>> mild

>> to moderate for 7 years...then, in the last 2 years, it got rapidly worse

>> .....now I use a wheelchair much of the time, my bladder and bowels won't

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Di,

You are so very welcome.

I live in Salem, Oregon, I have always been an Oregonian, other states sound

really nice, but my hubby and I call this our home.

I have a huge AFO on my right leg, I also have a wheel chair and crutch but

dont use them unless I am really fatigued or plan on being out for awhile.

My hole right side is effected, my left arm and hand are starting to fatigue

but not much. My bladder, I have to make sure I am close to a restroom and

always use one if I feel the need or not. As for the bowels I have to use

metumucil daily and suppositories if I need to start moving things along.

Man alive you have sure been diagnosed with alot of different things. At

first when they said I have PLS instead of MS I was pretty upset about it.

It was real hard for me to except the MS, then I had to start all over again

with this. Atleast no more shots into the muscles.

You know Di we all have our bad days, that is very normal. I also know that

it is good to have a possitive and upbeat attitude like you said.

What meds are you taking?

I am on Baclofen and Neurotin (for spasms and restless legs) Provigil to

help me through the day, Trazadone to help me sleep, and medical marijuana,

that I smoke only at bed time to help me sleep.

Where was it you said you lived?

Please dont hesitate to ask questions, or just say, hey I am having a bad

day, or even say I have a personal problem we will always be here for you.

We all laugh and cry together. This group has become my second family in so

many different ways.

Now cheer up, go get a bowl of icecream and put a smile on your face for me.

Take care, Sandy

Age question

> >

> >

> > > > Hi friends, > > Can anyone tell me the most common age to develop

PLS?

> >I was likely about 37 > when mine started....may have even been as young

as

> >32, looking back. For > some reason, it feels important to me to get an

> >idea of the average age that > people develop this thing...if there is

one.

> >Thanks. > > Di from Canada > >

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[Guest guest]

Hello Di, I'm writing in behalf of my wife (Jone) who has PLS and

her symptoms started when she was 48 years old in 2001. She first

noticed she couldn't walk fast or skip or run and after many doctors

she was diagnosed in May of 2003 at the University of Michigan

Medical Center. She has fallen many times breaking both arms in one

fall and then breaking her right arm twice with other falls later

on. She uses a four-wheeled walker with brakes and a w/c for

getting around when longer distances are involved. She takes

baclofen 20mg three times a day and also valium when she starts

having really bad leg spasms in her front thighs. She tried taking

Zanaflex but it was too much of a problem for her. She will start

with Botox injections in about a week. Looks like you are getting

some good responses....hope they all help. Bob & Jone / Utah

[Guest guest]

Hey there Di,

I always think a big bowl of icecream always helps when a person is feeling

down. The only thing is I cant have the icecream, right now I have to eat

the frozen yogurt, dont get me wrong, it is very good. I have been on a diet

for awhile, so far I have lost 37 1/2 pounds. I have 6 1/2 to go to reach my

goal. I will be down to the weight I was when I married my honey 24 years

ago.

I feel so much better now with not carrying almost 4 10 pound bags of

potatoes.

Its amazeing on how many friends you make on this sight, and you have never

met them in person. I have gone out to lunch with and his dear wife

from Bend, Oregon.

Hopefully one of these days we can travel to meet more.

Are you ever accross the boarder?

Well girl friend I need to get my lazy rear up and finally do the dishes.

Your friend Sandy

Age question

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Hi friends, > > Can anyone tell me the most common age to

develop

> >PLS?

> > > >I was likely about 37 > when mine started....may have even been as

> >young

> >as

> > > >32, looking back. For > some reason, it feels important to me to get

an

> > > >idea of the average age that > people develop this thing...if there

is

> >one.

> > > >Thanks. > > Di from Canada > >

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[Guest guest]

Hey there Di,

Like I just told , I have just tried to stay away from the sugars, fat

free creamer, diet pop and smaller portions. When ever I start really

craving sugar I just bring out my fat pictures, then say do you want to look

like that again.

My big down fall and what has really been the hardest is the icecream bars

and barbeque potatoe chips, pistachio nuts. Okay thats enough of that

thankfully there is none of that in the house and its too cold to leave the

house.

Last nights cherry cheese cake was enough for a few days, Darn it.

Thank you for saying I am an inspiration, things like that keep me going

too. Sandy

Age question > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi

> >friends, > > Can anyone tell me the most common age to develop > >PLS? >

>

> > > >I was likely about 37 > when mine started....may have even been as >

> > >young > >as > > > >32, looking back. For > some reason, it feels

> >important to me to get an > > > >idea of the average age that > people

> >develop this thing...if there is > >one. > > > >Thanks. > > Di from

Canada

> > > > > > >

> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >

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[Guest guest]

Flora,

Yes! Bummer! You sound really frustrated! I wish we could all be there with

you to help.

Mike

Re: Age question

>

> My symptoms started with my voice back in 1991 and that was my only

> symptom

> for the next 5 years. During that time I was diagnosed with Spasmodic

> Dysphonia. This effected the vocal cords making them spasms causing a

> interruption

> of speech and effected the voice quality. It sounded strained,tight,or a

> strangled quality unlike other PLS'ers who's voice is slurred. I started

> botox

> shots to relax those muscles making it possible to speak more clearly. I

> was 44 at that time. Then in 1995 I slipped and fell in the rain and

> broke my

> wrist. During my physical therapy my right leg started to stiffen up

> during

> these sessions. I thought it was just nerves being in pain during the

> physical therapy. It continued on during the healing process and then

> the tripping

> started and loss of balance. I went to a neurologist who first dx me as

> having ALS. Only after a number of tests during the next year and not

> getting

> any worse they changed it to PLS. The only test that showed any abnormal

> signs was the EMG. I have a very slow progression I still walk with the

> aid of

> a four wheel walker and still am able to cook maintain our home but yes

> at a

> slow pace. I consider myself very luckily that I can do all of these

> things.

> I don't drive due to my very very startle reflex condition. My

> neurologist

> finds it hard to believe the strength that I still have in all parts of

> my

> body but yet I cannot stand without hold on to something. I am now going

> to be

> 58. Bummer........that's my story....Flora

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" ...and medical marijuana,

that I smoke only at bed time to help me sleep. "

Sandy, you always add that last line. Me thinks the lady tries too hard to

convince. <

Mike

Age question

>> >

>> >

>> > > > Hi friends, > > Can anyone tell me the most common age to develop

> PLS?

>> >I was likely about 37 > when mine started....may have even been as young

> as

>> >32, looking back. For > some reason, it feels important to me to get an

>> >idea of the average age that > people develop this thing...if there is

> one.

>> >Thanks. > > Di from Canada > >

>> >_________________________________________________________________ > Take

>> >charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen >

>> >Technology. >

>>

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[Guest guest]

Sheela,

You go, girl! You seem to have your priorities set and keep following them.

Way to go! By helping others, you help yourself more than you know and by

keeping busy doing things you enjoy, you keep your mind active and relaxed.

Enjoy your life. You're worth it!

Mike

Re: Age question

>

> Hi Di; I usually don't spend much time here reading all the mail I get

> from

> this web site, but when I saw your question I thought this PLs thing

> differs

> for everyone.in severity & age. I am really fortunate that my case is

> progressing so slowly & I am able to do do most of the things I really

> enjoy. Art

> classes, volunteering at a senior home doing an arts & craft project every

> Monday & Thursday morning & some mild gym exercises. There is so much to

> this

> saga.If you'd like I could write again. Thanks for listening, Sheela in

> Mtl.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply Bob....i did find it helpful....she is on the same

Baclofen dose as i am am...but i am thinking of trying the pump soon. Take

care!

Di

>

>Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS

>To: PLS-FRIENDS

>Subject: age question

>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:30:55 -0000

>

>

>Hello Di, I'm writing in behalf of my wife (Jone) who has PLS and

>her symptoms started when she was 48 years old in 2001. She first

>noticed she couldn't walk fast or skip or run and after many doctors

>she was diagnosed in May of 2003 at the University of Michigan

>Medical Center. She has fallen many times breaking both arms in one

>fall and then breaking her right arm twice with other falls later

>on. She uses a four-wheeled walker with brakes and a w/c for

>getting around when longer distances are involved. She takes

>baclofen 20mg three times a day and also valium when she starts

>having really bad leg spasms in her front thighs. She tried taking

>Zanaflex but it was too much of a problem for her. She will start

>with Botox injections in about a week. Looks like you are getting

>some good responses....hope they all help. Bob & Jone / Utah

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

OK...your suggestions make good sense. Especially the smaller portions. When

i eat large portions, the abdom. muscles spasm...so that is a good

incentive, Proud of you sandy! Maybe i can do it too!

Di

>

>Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS

>To: <PLS-FRIENDS >

>CC:

>Subject: Re: Age question

>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:07:59 -0800

>

>Hey there Di,

>

>Like I just told , I have just tried to stay away from the sugars, fat

>free creamer, diet pop and smaller portions. When ever I start really

>craving sugar I just bring out my fat pictures, then say do you want to

>look

>like that again.

>My big down fall and what has really been the hardest is the icecream bars

>and barbeque potatoe chips, pistachio nuts. Okay thats enough of that

>thankfully there is none of that in the house and its too cold to leave the

>house.

>Last nights cherry cheese cake was enough for a few days, Darn it.

>Thank you for saying I am an inspiration, things like that keep me going

>too. Sandy

> Age question > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>Hi

> > >friends, > > Can anyone tell me the most common age to develop > >PLS?

> >

> >

> > > > >I was likely about 37 > when mine started....may have even been as

> >

> > > >young > >as > > > >32, looking back. For > some reason, it feels

> > >important to me to get an > > > >idea of the average age that > people

> > >develop this thing...if there is > >one. > > > >Thanks. > > Di from

>Canada

> > > > > > > >

> > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >

> > > >Take > > > >charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft®

> > >SmartScreen > > > > >Technology. > > > > > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Colleen,

Although i wish your symptoms hadn't 'sped up'....it is also a relief to

know that someone elses have too. Hopefully, if they speed up...maybe they

can slow down too eh? Oops! gave my Canadianism away there....I ended a

sentence with 'eh'? Ha ha.

Di

>

>Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS

>To: PLS-FRIENDS

>Subject: Re: Age question

>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:02:24 -0000

>

>

>,

>

>Age is hard to define...but like so many others, i was Dx with CFS

>at 31 in 1991, then was ok until about 1997 and i started getting

>extremely fatigued again, in 99 was told FMS but my symptoms weren't

>meshing up. In 2000 they were sue it was MS and and 2003 finally

>got suspected PLS and last year PLS dx.

>

>Hard to tell progression rate, but it has definately sped up in the

>last 3 years.

>

>I have a local doctor who still thinks i need to be male and in my

>mid-50's at earliest to get PLS.

>

>Colleen

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Colleen,

I really cringed at your last sentence... " I have a local doctor who

still thinks I need to be male and in my mid-50's at earliest to get

PLS. "

OMG is this completely wrong--as you've already seen from the

responses here.

Some doctors would rather read the medical literature than listen to

patients. Of course most doctors have never seen a PLS patient so

they SHOULD read the literature. Had your doctor done this, he/she

would never have made this statement.

A study by Dr. Kay Floeter of the National Institutes of Health

(NIH) divided PLS patients into groups of ascending patients

(symptoms started in the legs and moved up) and multifocal (the

symptoms started somewhere else and moved all over). In the

ascending group there were 14 patients. Eleven of the 14--fully 79%-

-had age of onset under age 50. Five of the 14 (36%) had age of

onset in their 30's. And 6 of the 14 43% were women.

For the multifocal group the numbers were:

8 of 10 had age of onset before age 50, and

8 of 10 were females.

Zhai, " Primary Lateral Sclerosis: A Heterogeneous Disorder Composed

of Different Subtypes? " April (2 of 2) 2003 Neurology 60: 1258 -

1265.

For a copy of the article go to the PLS-Friends home page, and go

into " files " on the left hand side. See the third page of the study.

Mark

>

> ,

>

> Age is hard to define...but like so many others, i was Dx with CFS

> at 31 in 1991, then was ok until about 1997 and i started getting

> extremely fatigued again, in 99 was told FMS but my symptoms

weren't

> meshing up. In 2000 they were sue it was MS and and 2003 finally

> got suspected PLS and last year PLS dx.

>

> Hard to tell progression rate, but it has definately sped up in

the

> last 3 years.

>

> I have a local doctor who still thinks i need to be male and in my

> mid-50's at earliest to get PLS.

>

> Colleen

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I am not trying to convince anyone about the marijuana.

It is a medicine I use to help me sleep, and helps drastically with my spasms.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/16/2005 7:17:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,

magray514@... writes:

Your doctor needs the NORD booklet we put out. If there are no copies left,

let me know personally at my email address listed and I will send you my

last one.

I have a lot of them........

[Guest guest]

Colleen,

Your doctor needs the NORD booklet we put out. If there are no copies left,

let me know personally at my email address listed and I will send you my

last one.

Sounds like you have a frustrating doctor, too. I work with psychiatrists

frequently and have found them to be a very diverse group of professionals.

The younger ones are by far the most knowledgeable, but they have to change

to fit into the system. We lose them in a big hurry. Others think that if

they say it, you understand it. They don't like to be questioned, even by

their peers. There are still others who try to balance the work with the

patients with the administrative part, especially with the Medical and

Assistant Medical Directors. Now, we are not large enough to afford both of

them and our new State Government is seriously looking at ways to cut

expenses. One of the 2 will go back to his " regular " job and will no longer

be in Administration. He works better as a " regular " than as an

Administrator, but he will have to deal with his peers, who will then be on

equal footing with him and will be able to question his decisions without

fear of repercussion. The ones I like best are the ones who are actively

trying to use the most current research to help our patients and could care

less what the Drug Companies say. One of them discovered that Lilly's

Zyprexa caused what he calls " Metabolic Syndrome. " The patient taking it may

gain weight and this will increase the chances for diabetes and

hypertension. He has taken them off Zyprexa if they began showing this

condition, even if they were responding well to it. Many of them are not

doing as well on the other meds available, but I can admire his courage.

Lilly was recently sued for this very problem and admitted that they knew

about it when it was approved for use. This may be where my coworker found

the new term he uses, i.e., " Metabolic Syndrome. "

My point is: He watched, listened, and collected data. Then he made his

choices based on evidence, not what was recommended protocol. He may not be

with us much longer, either. This is the type of neuro I have and I wish all

of us could have. Sounds like your Dr. needs to learn this.

Mike Gray

Mike Gray

Re: Age question

>

>

> ,

>

> Age is hard to define...but like so many others, i was Dx with CFS

> at 31 in 1991, then was ok until about 1997 and i started getting

> extremely fatigued again, in 99 was told FMS but my symptoms weren't

> meshing up. In 2000 they were sue it was MS and and 2003 finally

> got suspected PLS and last year PLS dx.

>

> Hard to tell progression rate, but it has definately sped up in the

> last 3 years.

>

> I have a local doctor who still thinks i need to be male and in my

> mid-50's at earliest to get PLS.

>

> Colleen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey Sandy,

You know....i think we get hung up about the 'stigma' of marajuana...but

when i used it that few times...i received incredible relief from spasms,

clonus, pain and insomnia. I guess, for me, I avoid it now because I am a

sober alchoholic....14 years next month! And if I do something 3 times in a

week I am addicted! Ha Ha.

So i would caution people with a history of addictions. HOWEVER...having

said that....there is no doubt in my mind that medicinal marajuana is an

excellent pain /spasm killer. I guess a person has to use the same care and

discretion they would use with any potent medication.

Glad it is helping you my friend!

Di

>

>Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS

>To: <PLS-FRIENDS >

>CC:

>Subject: Re: Age question

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:25:04 -0800

>

>Mike,

>I am not trying to convince anyone about the marijuana.

>It is a medicine I use to help me sleep, and helps drastically with my

>spasms. Sandy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Di,

I am so very proud of you 14 years, thats fantastic.

Thats something I have never really had a problem with, I might have a total

of maybe 6 drinks a year. My mother in law has been a sober alcoholic for 25

years now. It took her getting a D.U.I to do it. She is so different now

since she quit drinking.

CONGRADULATIONS, Sandy

Re: Age question

> >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:25:04 -0800

> >

> >Mike,

> >I am not trying to convince anyone about the marijuana.

> >It is a medicine I use to help me sleep, and helps drastically with my

> >spasms. Sandy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sandy. I am forever grateful that mt kids were toddlers when i quit

drinking. I went to a 12-step program and i still go once a week. Haven't

craved a drink in years....but I don't want to either...so i keep going.

Take care!

Di

>

>Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS

>To: <PLS-FRIENDS >

>CC:

>Subject: Re: Age question

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:45:08 -0800

>

>Wow Di,

>I am so very proud of you 14 years, thats fantastic.

>Thats something I have never really had a problem with, I might have a

>total

>of maybe 6 drinks a year. My mother in law has been a sober alcoholic for

>25

>years now. It took her getting a D.U.I to do it. She is so different now

>since she quit drinking.

>CONGRADULATIONS, Sandy

> Re: Age question

> > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:25:04 -0800

> > >

> > >Mike,

> > >I am not trying to convince anyone about the marijuana.

> > >It is a medicine I use to help me sleep, and helps drastically with my

> > >spasms. Sandy

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

I was only joking. I can tell that you really appreciate the help it gives

you and you want to share that with others who may benefit. I am pleased and

happy for you that it does help.

Mike

Re: Age question

>

> Mike,

> I am not trying to convince anyone about the marijuana.

> It is a medicine I use to help me sleep, and helps drastically with my

> spasms. Sandy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, , I knew you would come through.

Mike

Re: Re: Age question

>

>

> In a message dated 2/16/2005 7:17:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> magray514@... writes:

>

> Your doctor needs the NORD booklet we put out. If there are no copies

> left,

> let me know personally at my email address listed and I will send you my

> last one.

>

>

>

> I have a lot of them........

>

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