calling all detectives! HELP

[Guest guest]

DO I NEED TO MAKE CHANGES?

Some background:

I am within days of starting. Things are not good. Monday, Tuesday and maybe

Wednesday were nourished with SCD advanced to include salad, apples, oranges,

cashew

and smooth peanut butter (I was relying on legal/illegal list only). BAD. Then

my BTVC

book showed. Also found Recipe's by Stages that was very helpful. Thursday

was almost

100% meat, chicken and pork chops because I ddn't have all the stuff. Thursday

night I

had baked apples with a spoon of the bad yogurt (another mistake, did not cool

to room

temp and realized later that the yogurt starter was not right. I'll stop cooked

apples till

things are better. I have the Yogourmet Maker.

Friday and Saturday we fanatically followed the Intro, I think. Meat, mostly

chicken thighs,

and gelatin with grape juice or orange juice. Some DCCC (I'm sure that will be

good with

fruit or on a legal cracker some day) that is not so paletable now. Grape juice

diluted 1:1

with sparkling water was great. Maybe another spoonful of jogurt with DCCC and

a shot

of honey. My correct yogurt will be available later today. I take

multi-vitamin with iron till

it is gone, then I'll eliminate the iron. The paprika I have seasoned my

chicken with has

been eliminated because it has silicon dioxide. I continue to tweak but I don't

know what

to add or take away.

BUT Today, instead of things getting better, the trips have increased. Darker

and less

volume. Less mucus. Trips were something that I could rely on being a morning

thing and

now it seems to be risky all day. So I cannot judge that my diet choices are

good. Today I

have already been 3 times. Is it diet or drugs? I take Enticort EC and Lialda

and Previcid

for Barretts Esophugus, Low dose of Propanalol every other day and a generic

Lotrel for

BP every other day. I take Oscal(calcium) and the multi with Iron. This

morning I took 2

Lomotil.

What can I do to see progress? Or, am I being impatient? I understand that I

am not to be

on Intro beyond 5 days.

Thanks in advance for your help

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You need to make A LOT of changes. I did the same thing as you while waiting

for my

BTVC book to arrive, I ate everything that was legal and it really hurt me

because my gut

was damaged and a lot of the legal stuff is considered advanced. SO, you really

need to

stick to the intro diet. Homemade chicken soup, beef, some eggs, the juice

jello and

yogurt in small quantities until you know you tolerate it in larger quantities

are some of

the main things. Read the book about how you begin and do the intro correctly,

then

slowly introduce other legal foods. Many people begin with zucchini (peeled and

de-

seeded), butternut squash, and carrots for veggies and very ripe spotted bananas

or

apples for fruits, all peeled and no seeds, cooked (except the banana). I would

remove the

orange juice right away, even diluted, sometimes that can cause problems. Stop

eating

peanut butter, it is also an advanced food. It is good that you noticed your

seasonings had

additives and you have since removed them. Keep paying attention to that kind

of stuff

because it can make all the difference in your healing. For your medications

and

supplements...check them to see if they are legal. There is a calcium that I

take from

Lucy's Kitchen that is SCD legal and my multi is from there too. You are right

to consider

not taking the iron, but there are other ways you can get extra iron if you need

it (liver,

using cast iron pans, extra dark leafy greens(when you tolerate them). You also

need to

be patient. Give the diet a month at least to see if it helps. I do not think

that more

frequent elimination is necessarily a bad thing. If you have eaten a

traditional SAD diet for

a while, you might have a lot of " stuff " that is being cleansed out of you.

Less mucous is a

good thing. Dark doesn't have to be bad either, many people report green when

they are

doing the diet correctly and it is working to cleanse and heal. I don't know

about the

Lomotil and your other prescriptions, so I cannot say anything about those. So,

to sum it

up, read your book closely and make your changes. You have made some good

changes

already, but you cannot blame the diet when you are not following it to the

letter. Ask

questions if you need help, there are lots of people who can help you. Be

patient!

UC/C

Remicade

SCD 1 year

>

> DO I NEED TO MAKE CHANGES?

> Some background:

> I am within days of starting. Things are not good. Monday, Tuesday and maybe

> Wednesday were nourished with SCD advanced to include salad, apples, oranges,

cashew

> and smooth peanut butter (I was relying on legal/illegal list only). BAD.

Then my BTVC

> book showed. Also found Recipe's by Stages that was very helpful. Thursday

was

almost

> 100% meat, chicken and pork chops because I ddn't have all the stuff.

Thursday night I

> had baked apples with a spoon of the bad yogurt (another mistake, did not cool

to room

> temp and realized later that the yogurt starter was not right. I'll stop

cooked apples till

> things are better. I have the Yogourmet Maker.

>

> Friday and Saturday we fanatically followed the Intro, I think. Meat, mostly

chicken

thighs,

> and gelatin with grape juice or orange juice. Some DCCC (I'm sure that will

be good

with

> fruit or on a legal cracker some day) that is not so paletable now. Grape

juice diluted

1:1

> with sparkling water was great. Maybe another spoonful of jogurt with DCCC

and a shot

> of honey. My correct yogurt will be available later today. I take

multi-vitamin with iron

till

> it is gone, then I'll eliminate the iron. The paprika I have seasoned my

chicken with has

> been eliminated because it has silicon dioxide. I continue to tweak but I

don't know

what

> to add or take away.

>

> BUT Today, instead of things getting better, the trips have increased. Darker

and less

> volume. Less mucus. Trips were something that I could rely on being a morning

thing

and

> now it seems to be risky all day. So I cannot judge that my diet choices are

good. Today

I

> have already been 3 times. Is it diet or drugs? I take Enticort EC and

Lialda and Previcid

> for Barretts Esophugus, Low dose of Propanalol every other day and a generic

Lotrel for

> BP every other day. I take Oscal(calcium) and the multi with Iron. This

morning I took 2

> Lomotil.

>

> What can I do to see progress? Or, am I being impatient? I understand that I

am not to

be

> on Intro beyond 5 days.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to say what happened on our end. My 14 year old daughter has celiac disease and an overgrowth of d-lactate bacteria in her gut, which is why we started the diet on Oct. 1. We just went right into the diet, eating the stuff you can eat on it. By Thanksgiving, she got diarrhea (which she hasn't had before from celiac disease or anything.) Thought maybe it was a flare. We then were told to do the intro of the diet which we had never done. Within 1 meal on it, her diarrhea pretty much stopped. Pretty amazing. We did the intro for 5 days and then have been trying to do the stages. We aren't far into the stages which is real frustrating to her.

I'm not sure if that helped you at all or answered any of your concerns but I thought I'd mention it.

She has food intolerances to all dairy, peanuts, almonds, egg whites and pineapple, so it makes the diet a little harder to do too, especially the dairy because she can't have the yogurt. And she's losing too much weight.

But she had been unable to go to school because of extreme anxiety because of her gut being messed up, and the diet has helped because she now has hardly any anxiety and she's back to school, etc.Huge answers to prayer.

To everyone else out there, I wrote the other day about her real bad gas. We eliminated olive oil, her probiotic, squash and the nut cookies for a few days. I see a big improvement. She hasn't had gas constantly. - only very occasionally. It still smells bad but it's more do-able with it not being constant. And she was able to go ice skating with youth group and really had fun. They ate at Mcs, but she took her pork chops and veggies in thermos like containers and just ate that. And it was ok. She feels like a freak when every other teen can eat burgers, fries and shakes. But this experience will make her a stronger person. All I can say (and I know I keep saying it), but the Lord is good. He has answered so many prayers concerning her.

Marla

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:11:47 PMSubject: calling all detectives! HELP

DO I NEED TO MAKE CHANGES?Some background:I am within days of starting. Things are not good. Monday, Tuesday and maybe Wednesday were nourished with SCD advanced to include salad, apples, oranges, cashew and smooth peanut butter (I was relying on legal/illegal list only). BAD. Then my BTVC book showed. Also found Recipe's by Stages that was very helpful. Thursday was almost 100% meat, chicken and pork chops because I ddn't have all the stuff. Thursday night I had baked apples with a spoon of the bad yogurt (another mistake, did not cool to room temp and realized later that the yogurt starter was not right. I'll stop cooked apples till things are better. I have the Yogourmet Maker.Friday and Saturday we fanatically followed the Intro, I think. Meat, mostly chicken thighs, and gelatin with grape juice or orange juice. Some DCCC (I'm sure that will be good with fruit or on a legal cracker some day) that

is not so paletable now. Grape juice diluted 1:1 with sparkling water was great. Maybe another spoonful of jogurt with DCCC and a shot of honey. My correct yogurt will be available later today. I take multi-vitamin with iron till it is gone, then I'll eliminate the iron. The paprika I have seasoned my chicken with has been eliminated because it has silicon dioxide. I continue to tweak but I don't know what to add or take away.BUT Today, instead of things getting better, the trips have increased. Darker and less volume. Less mucus. Trips were something that I could rely on being a morning thing and now it seems to be risky all day. So I cannot judge that my diet choices are good. Today I have already been 3 times. Is it diet or drugs? I take Enticort EC and Lialda and Previcid for Barretts Esophugus, Low dose of Propanalol every other day and a generic Lotrel for BP every other day. I take Oscal(calcium)

and the multi with Iron. This morning I took 2 Lomotil.What can I do to see progress? Or, am I being impatient? I understand that I am not to be on Intro beyond 5 days.Thanks in advance for your help