Re: query for Ethel or or anyone

July 4, 2008

, the first thing I thought of when I read your post was acupuncture...have

you tried that? I have not ever tried it but several of our friends have sports

related injuries and they swear by it...just a thought.

Debbie

rheumatic query for Ethel or or anyone

I have seronegative arthritis, which Dr. Whitman is treating, and I am

much better. But I still have pain on my left side above my SI, where

an ultra sound found a small tear, healed, with scar tissue. This is

the source of my problem. It gets worse, more inflamed, as the day

goes by, and by night the pain is referred to my thoracic spine.

Whitman has no suggestions. Anyone have any ideas? I tried physical

therapy--massage--and it made me worse. I tried a cortisone shot, and

it helped for part of a day. I'm not sure how or if the autoimmune

problem is involved here.

Thanks.

On Jul 3, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Sauve wrote:

> hi ehtel

>

> thanks for this info. if this is true:

>

> The very large molecules - upto 9,000 - are immune modulating, which

> have a

> powerful healing effect on AIDS, cancer and many different immune

> system

> disorders. It is also this large molecule that causes the body to

> produce a

> natural chemical, tumor necrosis factor, that functions to shut off

> the

> blood supply to tumors.

>

> then wouldn't aloe vera incr the autoimmune reaction to your joints?

> our

> TNF cells are already overactive with RA. why woudl we want to

> increase

> their action?

>

> thanks

> monique

>

July 5, 2008

Debbie,

You suggested acupuncture, and I may try it. Thanks. Have you ever

heard of the Graston technique for healing soft tissue problems? They

use steel instruments, and it sounds a bit scary, but maybe it is valid.

On Jul 4, 2008, at 11:58 AM, DEBBIE GIBSON wrote:

> , the first thing I thought of when I read your post was

> acupuncture...have you tried that? I have not ever tried it but

> several of our friends have sports related injuries and they swear

> by it...just a thought.

> Debbie

> rheumatic query for Ethel or or anyone

>

> I have seronegative arthritis, which Dr. Whitman is treating, and I am

> much better. But I still have pain on my left side above my SI, where

> an ultra sound found a small tear, healed, with scar tissue. This is

> the source of my problem. It gets worse, more inflamed, as the day

> goes by, and by night the pain is referred to my thoracic spine.

> Whitman has no suggestions. Anyone have any ideas? I tried physical

> therapy--massage--and it made me worse. I tried a cortisone shot, and

> it helped for part of a day. I'm not sure how or if the autoimmune

> problem is involved here.

>

> Thanks.

>

> On Jul 3, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Sauve wrote:

>

> > hi ehtel

> >

> > thanks for this info. if this is true:

> >

> > The very large molecules - upto 9,000 - are immune modulating, which

> > have a

> > powerful healing effect on AIDS, cancer and many different immune

> > system

> > disorders. It is also this large molecule that causes the body to

> > produce a

> > natural chemical, tumor necrosis factor, that functions to shut off

> > the

> > blood supply to tumors.

> >

> > then wouldn't aloe vera incr the autoimmune reaction to your joints?

> > our

> > TNF cells are already overactive with RA. why woudl we want to

> > increase

> > their action?

> >

> > thanks

> > monique

> >

>

July 5, 2008

No, I have not heard of that technique but hey, research, research...we are

seeing animals, specifically dogs, realllllllly being helped by acupuncture!

Keep us all posted. Debbie

PS I have found deep tissue massage really helped me..but cannot afford to do

that on any reg basis.