Re: Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

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In a message dated 2/18/2005 8:33:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

smellyfrog69@... writes:

More importantly, has anyone got any suggestions for this 30

something who is trying to get to grips with what's happened today?

The first thing is to calm down. Stress will only cause your numbers to go

higher. We have all been where you are now. I was diagnosed in 1999 and I

have never been more healthier. Just celebrated my 62nd birthday and I'm more

active than I was when I was in my mid to late 40's.

A good website is the Joslin Diabetes Center. Don't try to read or

understand everything at one time. It can be too overwhelming.

_http://www.joslin.org/education/beginnerguide.shtml_

(http://www.joslin.org/education/beginnerguide.shtml)

Did your doctor put you on meds and does he have you testing your bg's

(blood glucose) often?

Ask questions, make comments. We are here for you.

hugs

Eunice

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> The first thing is to calm down. Stress will only cause your

numbers to go

> higher.

Trying to, but it isnt easy. Trying to be positive, but I know so

little, was told less and can't explain logically why this has

happened... (I'm an engineer not a dietician! LOL!)

> Did your doctor put you on meds and does he have you testing your

bg's

> (blood glucose) often?

Doctor has put me on Glucotrol but didnt tell me to test my bg.

Although I did pick up a tester on the way home and intend to test a

couple of times a week.

BG is 254 but I feel fine and have never had any BG related

problems.

Without a cause I'm just concerned that the meds & changing my diet

even more will have little effect. But could it be that my BG is

just naturally high? If the Glucotrol makes me ill should I stop

taking it and just go back to living happily and healthily with a

higher than normal BG.

According to the info, a BG of 254 is borderline Fair/Poor... so is

it really bad? All the Doc would say was that it was a 'big

problem'. But if it is such a problem then why arnt I on the floor

given my diet?

Less freaking, more confused

ta for the hug though!

P.

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Hello Mr. Claus,

Welcome to a great support group.

254 IS something to be concerned about. If you're already eating right and

exercising (and it sounds like you are), the medication may make the

difference for you. Your doctor is the authority, of course, but your BG

levels need to be in the low 100's...I believe 90 to 110 is " normal. "

Diabetes for Dummies is one book that is continuously recommended here. You

can get it online or at any larger bookstore, I'd think. There's another one

too....that I can't remember.

As eunice said, you need to take a few breaths and calm down. Millions live

with diabetes...and learn how to do it. I realize you're still in the

" getting used to the idea " mode. I've had it for almost 2 years now and I'm

still trying to get used to the idea, too.

Hang in there!

maralee

[Guest guest]

What does it mean? It means that things will be out of wack for a while.

You will feel helpless and wonder " why me " . You will pay attention to

everything you put in your mouth, and wonder who else is out there like you.

Looks like you just had the gene for diabetes. I did too,though I dont know

where it came from. I freaked out when I found out that I am T2. I am 26 a

mother of 1 and wife of the man of my dreams. I let it get to me for a

while, not eating this or that, and making a point in telling everyone that

I " cant " eat this or that.

Now, over a year later, I workout at the gym at least 3 days a week. I eat

healthy, and have never felt better. I dont think about having Diabetes

every day, I have made lifestyle changes that seem to just fit. Things that

I would have to think about all the time, I dont even give a second thought

to.

It is a new way of life for my family. I have to be active all the time.

My family dosnt always like what I cook for dinner. But, they eat it or

starve... =)

I look at it as a change for the better. A kick in the ass to look deeper

at my heath and where I want to be.

Freak out for a while. You need to. You need to mourn. It gets easier

every day! (at least for me) Dont overload your brain with too much info.

It will cause insanity... (just as my husband)

This group of people is great! they will answer each and every question out

there. If we dont know, someone will find it!

Angelia in OR

Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

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> OK, so here I am, no symptoms, feeling physically fit and healthy

> and yet today by Doc. tells me I have a Blood Sugar of 10.3 on a

> A1Hc (sic) test and that I'm a Type 2 Diabetic.

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> That was 6 hours ago and I'm still freaking out!

>

> I'm already on a self-induced carb-restricted diet and have been for

> some time (like a year or more)

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> I don't eat any of the list of things the Doc said I should avoid or

> cut down.

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> I don't drink

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> I'm not intraveinously injecting doughnuts (still trying to stay

> cheerful)

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> So what is happening???

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> 1. How did I wind up in this position?

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> 2. More importantly, has anyone got any suggestions for this 30

> something who is trying to get to grips with what's happened today?

>

> thanks all

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> P.

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> Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/

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[Guest guest]

Diabetes often causes no symptoms - not infrequently before someone dies of it

and its related disorders.

This could have happened a number of ways.

Genetics, weight, and fat distribution play major roles. High cholesterol and

high blood pressure most often go with it.

Type 2 diabetes takes a long time to develop. You could have been diabetic for

some time and shown no symptoms, and there would have been an earlier time when

you had poor glucose tolerance.

That is, probably. " Type 2 diabetes " can come on suddenly and it can even be

caused by a similar mechanism that causes type 1 diabetes.

Question your relatives and find out if anyone had anything even remotely

resembling diabetes. They could have not talked about it (amazing what people

don't talk about) or labelled it a different way.

Also, start reading. I have some of the best web sties and books at

http://www.geocities.com/tiggernut24/diabetes.html.

There is a bit more to diabetes control than carbohydrate counting. You need a

balanced diet, and exercise. You need for your doctor to send you to a

nutritionist. You could also need medication or insulin.

Yours,

Dora

Austin, Texas

villandra@...

Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

OK, so here I am, no symptoms, feeling physically fit and healthy

and yet today by Doc. tells me I have a Blood Sugar of 10.3 on a

A1Hc (sic) test and that I'm a Type 2 Diabetic.

That was 6 hours ago and I'm still freaking out!

I'm already on a self-induced carb-restricted diet and have been for

some time (like a year or more)

I don't eat any of the list of things the Doc said I should avoid or

cut down.

I don't drink

I'm not intraveinously injecting doughnuts (still trying to stay

cheerful)

So what is happening???

1. How did I wind up in this position?

2. More importantly, has anyone got any suggestions for this 30

something who is trying to get to grips with what's happened today?

thanks all

P.

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Oh, by the way.

I'm prediabetic. Type 2 diabetes runs in my family, so I've always watched for

it. My glucose tolerance has slowly slipped throughout my adult life. Now

my blood sugar levels are in intermediate range between normal and diabetic.

I actually made a bunch of changes in my diet and exercise a month before I

learned I'm offiically prediabetic. I found out I'd put on a bunch of weight

and learned my brother has developed diabetes all in the space of a week.

My general health is much better. My asthma and allergies are better than

they've been in a year and a half. I actually went for a month without

catching a cold. I'm in better shape. I feel much better. I've lost four

pounds. (Hee, hee, I still weigh 174 lbs.) And my blood sugar won't come

down for Adam.

Yours,

Dora

Austin, Texas

villandra@...

Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

OK, so here I am, no symptoms, feeling physically fit and healthy

and yet today by Doc. tells me I have a Blood Sugar of 10.3 on a

A1Hc (sic) test and that I'm a Type 2 Diabetic.

That was 6 hours ago and I'm still freaking out!

I'm already on a self-induced carb-restricted diet and have been for

some time (like a year or more)

I don't eat any of the list of things the Doc said I should avoid or

cut down.

I don't drink

I'm not intraveinously injecting doughnuts (still trying to stay

cheerful)

So what is happening???

1. How did I wind up in this position?

2. More importantly, has anyone got any suggestions for this 30

something who is trying to get to grips with what's happened today?

thanks all

P.

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Didn't tell you to test your bg?

It sounds like maybe you need to get a doctor who will get you into some kind of

diabetes management program.

Sometimes the nutritionist takes charge of that.

Yours,

Dora

Austin, Texas

villandra@...

Re: Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

> The first thing is to calm down. Stress will only cause your

numbers to go

> higher.

Trying to, but it isnt easy. Trying to be positive, but I know so

little, was told less and can't explain logically why this has

happened... (I'm an engineer not a dietician! LOL!)

> Did your doctor put you on meds and does he have you testing your

bg's

> (blood glucose) often?

Doctor has put me on Glucotrol but didnt tell me to test my bg.

Although I did pick up a tester on the way home and intend to test a

couple of times a week.

BG is 254 but I feel fine and have never had any BG related

problems.

Without a cause I'm just concerned that the meds & changing my diet

even more will have little effect. But could it be that my BG is

just naturally high? If the Glucotrol makes me ill should I stop

taking it and just go back to living happily and healthily with a

higher than normal BG.

According to the info, a BG of 254 is borderline Fair/Poor... so is

it really bad? All the Doc would say was that it was a 'big

problem'. But if it is such a problem then why arnt I on the floor

given my diet?

Less freaking, more confused

ta for the hug though!

P.

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Well this is part of my problem.

My general health is great. Last 'cold' I had was a viral fever on

holiday a year ago.

I really can't change my diet that much because I'm on a low carb

intake as it is and dont snack on anything 'bad'. I take sweetners

in iced tea, don't drink soda so I guess I'll be cutting out the

sugar in my tea next as that's all that is left.

Only one person in my family had diabetes which triggered after

weight increase & inactivity following a heart-attack caused

disability/inactivity. But his health problems were caused by a

thyroid issue (not caused by the diabetes) which I'm clear of.

My weight it pretty good, I'm about 10-15lb heavier than I should be.

At the moment I feel like the stress of worrying about this is more

likely to make me ill than just be happy and having a higher than

norm BG.

arghhhhh!

Sorry... I'm in denial I know!

P.

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Well, I can honestly say that 8 hours with it has been enough for

me!

wWell, I guess I'm going to be losing some more weight... guess I'm

gonna look very wierd when my ribs start showing.

[Guest guest]

It is conceivable you got diabetes for another reason.

There must be more than a dozen specific things that can cause type 2 diabetes -

and atleast two of them are viruses.

Yours,

Dora

Austin, Texas

villandra@...

Re: Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

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Well, I can honestly say that 8 hours with it has been enough for

me!

wWell, I guess I'm going to be losing some more weight... guess I'm

gonna look very wierd when my ribs start showing.

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<< I really can't change my diet that much because I'm on a low carb

intake as it is and dont snack on anything 'bad'.>>

<< Doctor has put me on Glucotrol but didnt tell me to test my bg.

Although I did pick up a tester on the way home and intend to test a

couple of times a week. >>

My advice would be to get a second opinion!!!!! I was mis-diagnosed

as Type 2 at age 28. The doc put me on oral meds, gave me the drill

about what to eat and what not to eat, to exercise (I was regularly

already) and told me I didn't need to test. The meds only worked

slightly and declined in effectiveness rapidly. He raised the

dosage ... then I changed docs and that doctor changed which meds I

was taking. Same thing was happening. Nothing I did helped and both

doctors seemed to believe that I wasn't doing what I was told. I

also began to feel sick. I switched doctors again, who looked

through everything, then sent me to an endocrinologist. And guess

what? I was Type 1!! (Probably misdiagnosed because I was an adult

and because it was caught really early due to my ASKING to be tested

for diabetes ... I was not diagnosed in an emergency room!)

Even if you are type 2, your doctor should recommend testing your

blood glucose levels at least on a semi-regular basis! I wouldn't

trust a doctor that says otherwise!

<< BG is 254 but I feel fine and have never had any BG related

problems. >>

" Normal " people tend to have BGs of 72 - 95. 254 is outrageously

high for a non-diabetic!!! Hell, I consider it high for ANYONE! As

for feeling fine, I thought I felt okay when I was diagnosed ... your

body gets used to the higher BG levels. But it's not healthy.

<< But his health problems were caused by a thyroid issue (not caused

by the diabetes) which I'm clear of. >>

Diabetes and thyroid problems are related ... autoimmune issues.

(Ask me how I know. <sigh>)

<< More importantly, has anyone got any suggestions for this 30

something who is trying to get to grips with what's happened today?>>

No doubt about it, suddenly being diagnosed with diabetes is pretty

awful! I spent a lot of time crying and feeling sorry for myself.

But, I also spent a lot of time researching diabetes. Know your

enemy, as it were, so that you can do your best to conquer it!

<< At the moment I feel like the stress of worrying about this is more

likely to make me ill than just be happy and having a higher than

norm BG. >>

Higher than normal BG will cause you major trouble ... after enough

time, you're risking things like kidney failure, blindnes, and foot

amputations! You don't want to let this go, it's REALLY important to

get it under control.

Anyway, hope things are getting progressively better. Do something

stress relieving and take everything one step at a time until you've

mastered it! Good luck!

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Mr. Claus,

I have a different relationship with my diabetes than you do; I am a

type I, almost 43 years old and have no memories of not being diabetic (was

diagnosed at age 2).

I would have to imagine it would be quite a shock to be told you're

now a diabetic in the middle of your life.

I am certainly no expert, but I can tell you that the way we control

ourselves affects everything else. Not controlling my diabetes is not like

a light switch, where I either feel good or not. These changes happen over

time, so I may think I feel good, but my BG tests tell me otherwise, and

when I get those numbers where they should be, everything is better for me.

I would suggest that you seek the advice of a doctor who specializes

in treating diabetes and have a thorough physical exam, where they take a

look under the hood.

Running high BG's now probably won't be something that causes a lot

of immediate discomfort. But it will down the road.

The reason I say seek a doctor who specializes in diabetes is

because I live in Seattle and have been treated by the same clinic, that has

a section for diabetics, for over 25 years; there have been a lot of

improvements in diabetes care and they are among the first to know about

them. (BG's used to be estimated by testing how much glucose spilled into

the urine, which did not tell what was happening at the moment, like

pricking a finger does).

You may think you feel good running BG's over 250, but consider how

long you have probably been running numbers like that and do you know the

last time you were running around 100 for a few weeks straight?

Anybody, diabetic or not would benefit from diet and exercise.

Being diabetic means taking the advice of the best healthcare

providers you can find and communicating with them.

You are far better off to have it diagnosed and take the necessary

steps to keep it from controlling you. Not doing so would be like knowing

there are supporting beams on your home that have dry rot and not fixing the

problem. It will only get worse.

Don't be diabetic. Be yourself.

I wish you all the best.

Regards

Ted

Re: Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

Well this is part of my problem.

My general health is great. Last 'cold' I had was a viral fever on

holiday a year ago.

I really can't change my diet that much because I'm on a low carb

intake as it is and dont snack on anything 'bad'. I take sweetners

in iced tea, don't drink soda so I guess I'll be cutting out the

sugar in my tea next as that's all that is left.

Only one person in my family had diabetes which triggered after

weight increase & inactivity following a heart-attack caused

disability/inactivity. But his health problems were caused by a

thyroid issue (not caused by the diabetes) which I'm clear of.

My weight it pretty good, I'm about 10-15lb heavier than I should be.

At the moment I feel like the stress of worrying about this is more

likely to make me ill than just be happy and having a higher than

norm BG.

arghhhhh!

Sorry... I'm in denial I know!

P.

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Hi Ted, thanks for the reply. I really fo appreciate that living

with Type 1 is a whole different ball-game, you guys already had my

respect before yesterday.

I think the problem I have is just rationalising 'why?'. But as it

seems that diabetes can trigger for anyone of a number of reasons,

I'll probably never get to the bottom of what kicked it off.

I was actually having a full medical check up when it was

discovered. Everything else was good, no problems with blood

pressure etc. etc. etc.

Dieting is going to be difficult... my average daily intake is

between 1000-1500 calories and I've already gone low carb.

Yesterday, following the results, I went completely without added

sugar in my food (but that's only in tea & coffee anyway). By

bedtime I was feling light-headed and odd.

Had a long think last night and have decided to give the meds chance

and monitor my BG every few days. But if going no-added-sugar and

taking the meds makes me sick then I think I'll be going back to

being happy with high BG.

P.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much Peggy.

Did you have any symptoms when you were 1st diagnosed?

Doing my best to stay calm.

>

> My advice would be to get a second opinion!!!!! I was mis-

diagnosed

[Guest guest]

-Hi Mr Claus,

Thought I'd add my 2 cents.... I noticed you are on a very

restricted diet already and you have eliminanted sugar. If you have

started meds, you need to test, test, test! Your BG on meds could go

too low if you are restricting certain foods. When my husband and I

first started low carbing, we had to test often, because there were

times we would go way too low. Too low is bad too. You shouldn't let

their BG go under 70. You need to test every day...not every few

days, especially on a low carb diet. I get shaky in the arms and legs

when I get too low. I was actually eating lunch the other day and had

a low hit me. Had to drink a sugary cola right away. It was an awful

feeling. My dr told me never to be without glucose tablets, hard

candy, or something I could take to counteract a low when it it. And

if you are on meds, most likely it will happen. I am on Glucatrol and

it is notorious for creating lows....at least in me, and I only take

5mg a day. So beware.

Donna N.

-- In diabetes , " Mr. Claus " <smellyfrog69@y...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> Dieting is going to be difficult... my average daily intake is

> between 1000-1500 calories and I've already gone low carb.

> Yesterday, following the results, I went completely without added

> sugar in my food (but that's only in tea & coffee anyway). By

> bedtime I was feling light-headed and odd.

>

>

> Had a long think last night and have decided to give the meds

chance

> and monitor my BG every few days. But if going no-added-sugar and

> taking the meds makes me sick then I think I'll be going back to

> being happy with high BG.

>

> P.

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

Thanks for the info... guess this is a part of the battle I'm having

with the whole thing....

Off the meds and eating a sensible diet = felt great but had this

high BG.

On meds and eating a restrictive diet = potentially feeling sick,

headchaes and having BG swings

Is it worth it?

[Guest guest]

Hi Becky, well, it kind of pales into insignificance alongside other

issues such as cancer. I hope things are so much better for you now.

I guess a part of this is the general over-reaction to things here

in the United States. Being British, we see the 'PANIC' button being

pressed far too often on this side of the pond.

E.g. everything here is referred to as a 'disease'... Things like

indigestion (acid reflux) isnt a disease it is a condition. Likewise

diabetes isnt a disease... it's a condition and all the stuff I've

read suggests that it's something that can be managed in a similar

way that you can manage acid reflux if you have it.

I'm really interested into finding out about natural remedies for

this and a quick troll down to the local bookstore this morning

provided a whole bunch of informative reads. Looks like I'll have a

busy few days.

While not in denial of the condition, I think it only right for me

to question the remedy, particularly if there is a better way than

taking meds and putting up with the side-effects.

ho hum

S.

(p.s. updated my profile as Mr. Claus was confusing people)

>

> , I can share that when I was first diagnosed I was

determined

> not to take medication and to control my blood sugar with diet and

> exercise. Alas, I found out a couple of months later that I had

breast

> cancer and had to have the small breast cancer removed by

lumpectomy

> and go through six weeks' radiation. That delayed my acceptance of

the

> need to take medication for my diabetes.

[Guest guest]

Okay, okay, okay LOL!

Tested, after lunch... 24 hour on meds (5mg glucotrol) and no added

sugar in anything (good olde Splenda) and I've got a reading of 129

mg/dl and still have a headache.

Hey, but I guess my BG is better eh?!

Oh, and my finger tips look like a pin-cushion!

Ouch kabibble!

.

>

> -Hi Mr Claus,

> Thought I'd add my 2 cents.... I noticed you are on a very

> restricted diet already and you have eliminanted sugar. If you

have

> started meds, you need to test, test, test!

[Guest guest]

How do they tell type 1 from type 2?

Yours,

Dora

Austin, Texas

villandra@...

Re: Freaking Out - What does it mean to be diabetic?

<< I really can't change my diet that much because I'm on a low carb

intake as it is and dont snack on anything 'bad'.>>

<< Doctor has put me on Glucotrol but didnt tell me to test my bg.

Although I did pick up a tester on the way home and intend to test a

couple of times a week. >>

My advice would be to get a second opinion!!!!! I was mis-diagnosed

as Type 2 at age 28. The doc put me on oral meds, gave me the drill

about what to eat and what not to eat, to exercise (I was regularly

already) and told me I didn't need to test. The meds only worked

slightly and declined in effectiveness rapidly. He raised the

dosage ... then I changed docs and that doctor changed which meds I

was taking. Same thing was happening. Nothing I did helped and both

doctors seemed to believe that I wasn't doing what I was told. I

also began to feel sick. I switched doctors again, who looked

through everything, then sent me to an endocrinologist. And guess

what? I was Type 1!! (Probably misdiagnosed because I was an adult

and because it was caught really early due to my ASKING to be tested

for diabetes ... I was not diagnosed in an emergency room!)

Even if you are type 2, your doctor should recommend testing your

blood glucose levels at least on a semi-regular basis! I wouldn't

trust a doctor that says otherwise!

<< BG is 254 but I feel fine and have never had any BG related

problems. >>

" Normal " people tend to have BGs of 72 - 95. 254 is outrageously

high for a non-diabetic!!! Hell, I consider it high for ANYONE! As

for feeling fine, I thought I felt okay when I was diagnosed ... your

body gets used to the higher BG levels. But it's not healthy.

<< But his health problems were caused by a thyroid issue (not caused

by the diabetes) which I'm clear of. >>

Diabetes and thyroid problems are related ... autoimmune issues.

(Ask me how I know. <sigh>)

<< More importantly, has anyone got any suggestions for this 30

something who is trying to get to grips with what's happened today?>>

No doubt about it, suddenly being diagnosed with diabetes is pretty

awful! I spent a lot of time crying and feeling sorry for myself.

But, I also spent a lot of time researching diabetes. Know your

enemy, as it were, so that you can do your best to conquer it!

<< At the moment I feel like the stress of worrying about this is more

likely to make me ill than just be happy and having a higher than

norm BG. >>

Higher than normal BG will cause you major trouble ... after enough

time, you're risking things like kidney failure, blindnes, and foot

amputations! You don't want to let this go, it's REALLY important to

get it under control.

Anyway, hope things are getting progressively better. Do something

stress relieving and take everything one step at a time until you've

mastered it! Good luck!

Peggy

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Hey Becky,

I was pretty impressed/intrigued by the results as well... even did

the test twice just to make sure it wasnt a fluke

Going to test first thing in the morning from now on and develop a

fasting baseline so I can keep track of things.

See how things go for the next few weeks although next week will be

hard as we're going to Vegas... yep I found out 3 days before my

vacation!

I had a hunch that my like of very large cups of sweet tea might

have been at the root of this... I know, it's a very 'British'

thing But I guess that a pint and a half of tea with 5 tsps of

sugar in it, 3 or 4 times a day could have been jacking up my BG

levels

so no more sweet tea, splenda tastes kindof yucky, so I've started

drinking ice tea instead (am turning more American with every

passing second).

Going to see how things stabilise over the next 2 weeks and then see

what reducing my dosage of glucotrol does.

P.

>

> Wow, , you have made a remarkable rapid response to

medication. If

> it's any consolation, I too suffered with headaches as my body got

> used to lower BG readings. It didn't seem to be a common experience

> for everyone, but I was actually quite miserable for a few weeks

as my

> body adjusted to life without high blood sugar. Sticking the side

of

> your finger should ease the pain of testing;

[Guest guest]

could you possibly post a meal, what you eat? Or a days worth of meals.

So that we have an Idea of what could be shooting up your blood sugars.

There are some foods that are " low carb " will shoot up my blood sugar like

no tomorrow!

Just an Idea...

129 is a great number!

I can test my arm with my meter... then my poor fingers dont look like

hamburger...

Angelia in OR

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From: " S. " \

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> Okay, okay, okay LOL!

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> Tested, after lunch... 24 hour on meds (5mg glucotrol) and no added

> sugar in anything (good olde Splenda) and I've got a reading of 129

> mg/dl and still have a headache.

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> Hey, but I guess my BG is better eh?!

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> Oh, and my finger tips look like a pin-cushion!

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> Ouch kabibble!

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[Guest guest]

Hang in there, (aka Mr. Claus),

Didn't mean to lecture you, but since your dr gave you such little

information, I just thought I needed to warn you about the dangers of

being on meds and possibly not eating enough to keep your BG up to a

safe level. I guess I panic because I have a granddson with type 1,

and he has had seizures and convulsions from getting way too low. It

has happened to him twice, once at home and once at school. He is on

an insulin pump now and is in much better control. He has also gone

very high many times, especially when sick with a cold and such. He

has had diabetes for 3 years now, and it has been a roller coaster

ride for all of us in the family. Having diabetes is not fun, but you

can live a long life with it IF you take care of yourself. Hang in

there with us, and you will be just fine. We are all in the same

boat...so to speak.

Best regards,

Donna N.

> >

> > -Hi Mr Claus,

> > Thought I'd add my 2 cents.... I noticed you are on a very

> > restricted diet already and you have eliminanted sugar. If you

> have

> > started meds, you need to test, test, test!

[Guest guest]

When I first found out I was diabetic, my blood sugar was reading

over 600 and I had no symptoms. Im not sure how long it had been

that way, b/c I had tested the month before, and it was around 90

after eating.

Mindy

> << BG is 254 but I feel fine and have never had any BG related

> problems. >>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Angelia, sure I can give you an idea of my daily diet... but you

maybe a little surprised.... here goes.

Pre-testing positive....

Breakfast - large glass low fat milk

Lunch - Tortilla wrap with turkey/chicken & beetroot or tomato

Dinner - Regular portion of meat/fish/poultry with vegetables. Maybe

if anything a little too much rice, but rarely potatoes.

No snacking (it's just something i've never done)

No chocolate (people don't bother giving me Easter Eggs any more as

I still have them the following year)

No soda - always drink ice tea

No bread - just don't eat it

No dessert - not an ice cream fan

No cake - unless I can get a Battenburg airlifted in from home.

Now before the testing I would have upto maybe 4 very large cups of

hot tea (Mad British bloke) with maybe 4-5tsp sugar a time trough

the course of the day. Given that my mug is the size of a bucket it

takes an hour to drink it!!

and that's it...

I'm 6ft tall, broad and weigh in at 220lbs, my Doctor reckons that

due to my build that I'm maybe 14-21lbs above my goal weight.

so there ya go.... since the positive test, I've cut out the

sweetened tea completely and reduced how much rice/potatoes I have

with dinner.

Not much to go on is it? Maybe you can understand my current level

of confusion

ttfn

> could you possibly post a meal, what you eat? Or a days worth of

meals.

> So that we have an Idea of what could be shooting up your blood

sugars.

[Guest guest]

Hi !

<< Did you have any symptoms when you were 1st diagnosed?>>

In sort of a round about way. (Pardon those who might get offended

at such discussions ...) I had a yeast infection that wouldn't go

away after three or four months of treatments. It would seem to be

getting better and then it would get worse again. It was driving me

CRAZY and nothing seemed to help for long! So one day I was at my

dad's and I looked through a book he has that lists ailments by

symptoms. So I'm looking at everything that could possibly be the

cause of " genital itching. " (The horrible yeast infection side

effect making me nuts.) And there was diabetes.

I looked at the list of symptoms. According to that book, symptoms

included:

excessive thirst

weight loss without changing diet

easily fatigued and/or irritated

frequent urination

dry skin

genital itching

blurred vision

loss of sensation in extremities

I stared at the list. And I thought. I remembered going to friends'

houses for pizza parties where I ate tons of pizza and drank tons of

pop ... and then could hardly keep my eyes open as the evening

progressed. I had thought I was getting old. I'd also been taking

aikido for four months. I had expected to gain weight, as muscles

are supposed to weight more than fat ... but instead I'd lost weight,

even eating as unhealthy as ever. I was thirsty a lot ... I tried to

think ... was it excessive? And my skin was dry, but it was winter

in Utah (essentially a mountain desert!), so I expected my skin to be

dry. I was pretty sure my vision wasn't blurring or that I'd lost

any sensation in " extremities. " Of course, I had the 5th symptom.

I had a doctor appointment scheduled for two days later, to check my

shoulder, which I'd injured trying something I shouldn't have in

aikido class. I decided to ask the doc when I got there to test me

for diabetes. And also I kept track of my liquid intake the next

day. The result? I drank over 120 oz of liquid! (Mostly pop and

juice!) That in itself was scary!

The next morning I went to the doc ... I'd fasted on the advice of a

friend of mine who'd had to fast to be tested for gestational

diabetes. Fasting blood sugar? 365! My first A1c? 16.7! I still

thought I felt fine. (Except, of course, for the problem with the

itching and yeast infections ... which were being caused by all that

pop and gunk I was eating/drinking being spilled in my urine!)

At that point began a couple of months of pure frustration, as I

tried to do what the doctors said and nothing worked for very long.

(Although I was able to get my blood sugars down to the 170 a few

times ... and the yeast infection went away!)

The second doctor at least helped me get a glucose monitor and didn't

act like a few pills would fix everything right up. But he too,

assumed I was Type 2. If I HAD been Type 2, switching doctors just

the first time probably would have fixed a great deal for me.

Regardless, it was the third opinion that got me on the right track.

Anyway, that was sort of long, but there you go. If you're eating

mostly healthy, you probably wouldn't have much trouble with genital

itching (which men can get as well), because you wouldn't have much

sugar to " spill " in your urine. And if I hadn't had THAT symptom, I

would have thought nothing was wrong until my body finally destroyed

the last of my beta cells and I ended up in sugar coma in an

emergency room!

Peggy