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Hi all

I have a question about cognitive function.

I have had CFS for 10 years and for most of that time I worked. I quite 18

months ago.. in part because of the neuro-cognitive problems....but since then

my mental capacities seem to have deteriorated even more.

I'm finally on an anti-viral treatment and that, plus glutathione, seems to be

helping.. but I'm wondering what else I can do to speed up the mental repairs.

I'm running out of money and I need to go back to work.

I'm wondering if jumping in at the deep end (as I did once before) will

work... ie on-the-job retraining of the brain.

Thanks

Louella

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I still have the (terrible) fatigue, but I have found some (partial)

relief from my (mold induced) neurocognitive issues from vinpocetine,

piracetam, GPC-choline, acetyl-l-carnitine, etc.

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B12 injections did wonders for my brain,

And after that the program from neuroscienceinc.com is having remarkable

effect. I feel more balanced and stable than I have since I first got

chronic-abt 25 yrs ago.

Adrienne

Re: cognitive function

Hi all

I have a question about cognitive function.

I have had CFS for 10 years and for most of that time I worked. I quite 18

months ago.. in part because of the neuro-cognitive problems....but since then

my mental capacities seem to have deteriorated even more.

I'm finally on an anti-viral treatment and that, plus glutathione, seems to

be helping.. but I'm wondering what else I can do to speed up the mental

repairs. I'm running out of money and I need to go back to work.

I'm wondering if jumping in at the deep end (as I did once before) will

work... ie on-the-job retraining of the brain.

Thanks

Louella

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Louella,

I've been taking DMAE for 15 years and I've said many times that it gave me my

brain back. It keeps the spaciness at bay, and though I still have

concentration difficulties, it has helped there quite a lot also.

I take DMAE-H3 (Twin Labs) 25 drops a day (you have to experiment with the

amount, starting at 10 drops, until you find a level that works...I use

25-30drops), Phosphatidyl Choline, and B-5 (500mg)...the B-5 apparently has a

synergistic effect. These are all fairly inexpensive, and the cheapest way I've

found is through www.beyond-a-century.com, (Maine) where I get the DMAE in

powder form, and buy their Lecithin (1 TBSP has the amount of PC needed each

day), and B-5 in powder form.

Re: cognitive function

Hi all

I have a question about cognitive function.

I have had CFS for 10 years and for most of that time I worked. I quite 18

months ago.. in part because of the neuro-cognitive problems....but since then

my mental capacities seem to have deteriorated even more.

I'm finally on an anti-viral treatment and that, plus glutathione, seems to be

helping.. but I'm wondering what else I can do to speed up the mental repairs.

I'm running out of money and I need to go back to work.

I'm wondering if jumping in at the deep end (as I did once before) will

work... ie on-the-job retraining of the brain.

Thanks

Louella

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  • 1 year later...

Hi Emma, Never, ever, ever give up. Hope is a strong influence on getting

better. I am in

my second year of recovery. There is definitely a light at the end of the

tunnel. Keep that dream of yours alive. We need people like you who have done

that and been there and know what it feels like. Learning is not from a text

book alone, but from life experiences, The fog has probably already begun to

lift. You just don't recognize it yet. This is a long slow process. These

bacteria that cause these Th 1 diseases are slow growing and slow to dying. In

my second, going on third year, I am in the process of writing a book on the

subject. You can recover it all, just don't ever give up. You'll just have to

take a little longer, work a little harder and have supportive people around

you. There is nothing that you can not do. In 2005, I was bedridden. Couldn't

even open the bathroom door. Needed help with everything. I've just returned

from my aerobics and aquatics class. Am a regular spokesperson at a support

group. My husband and I are on the comittee

for the scleroderma yearly walkathon. Last winter I went to Puerto Rico where

I did snorkeling, mountain climbing, kayaking at midnight in the bioluminescent

bay, hiking and cave exploring. Swam in the Caribbean as often as I wanted to

and had a wonderful time and hit the thermal baths. In 2005, I was told that I

was terminal and probably wouldn't last 6 months. I went on A/P and now just

started M/P. Had a setback this week, Irregular heart beats for 3 days.

Thought it was a herx. Found out I was just a little low in Magnesium. Two

doses of Slow Mag later and my heart is beating perfectly. Just got back from

the cardiologist! Everything is perfect. Don't let these set backs, set you

back. Go for the Gold. I'll be your biggest cheerleader. I know the rest will

join me in wishing you the best. Good luck! And hit those books. The best to

you, Dolores

emluv23@... wrote:

Hi group,

I know many people have commented on " brain fog " as a symptom of the disease

process itself. Many of you have mentioned short term memory loss, difficulty

concentrating, etc. I'm wondering though, among those of you who have

recovered, does this too resolve completely? I'm thrilled with my progress

physically,

but find that my brain is working no better then when I was at my sickest.

This is of great concern, as I was planning on spending the next ten years in

school, getting an MD and PhD. I'm starting to wonder what good my health is

without my brain! Wondering if I will ever perform like I did before the

illness.

Wondering if I should forget being an academic. The whole hope, of course, is

to become a physician to help people like us. I'm only in month 7 of AP.

Hoping there is still more progress to come.

Thanks all,

Emma

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Hi Emma;

I had and sometimes still have the same problem.Thank God my years

and years of serious study are behind me but in retirement I find myself

studying again.I have a wonderful doctor that specialises in

environmental medecine who suggested I try vitaminB12

Methylcobalamin.It is the neurologically active coenzyme form of B12

which supports the healthy structure and functioning of the brain and

nervous system.You can get it in the inhalor form with glutathion or as

a lozenge(do not know the english word) that is only the B12 and is

taken sublingually.One must also remember that the brain is basically

fat and that you really need your EFA s.The trick is to find the best

that have the least seco-steroid D in them.I use pumpkin seed ,black

currant and flax oil instead of fish oil. Lynne

emluv23@... wrote:

> Hi group,

>

> I know many people have commented on " brain fog " as a symptom of the

> disease

> process itself. Many of you have mentioned short term memory loss,

> difficulty

> concentrating, etc. I'm wondering though, among those of you who have

> recovered, does this too resolve completely? I'm thrilled with my

> progress physically,

> but find that my brain is working no better then when I was at my

> sickest.

> This is of great concern, as I was planning on spending the next ten

> years in

> school, getting an MD and PhD. I'm starting to wonder what good my

> health is

> without my brain! Wondering if I will ever perform like I did before

> the illness.

> Wondering if I should forget being an academic. The whole hope, of

> course, is

> to become a physician to help people like us. I'm only in month 7 of AP.

> Hoping there is still more progress to come.

> Thanks all,

> Emma

>

> **************************************

> See what's new at

> http://www.aol.com <http://www.aol.com>

>

>

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Hi Dolores!

Thank you so so much for all your words of encouragement! You are one of my

biggest inspirations- I think of you often when I'm studying- it's patients

like you that I am in this for. I'm thinking if I stick with this path of study

either my cognitive function will come back as I recover, or I will find a

method for overcoming it! Some sort of cognitive behavioral therapy or some

recently discovered research in neuroscience will come to the rescue. I will

keep at

it! Thank you for everything- I wouldn't be doing so incredibly well

physically without all the advice of this group.

Best wishes!

Emma

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http://www.aol.com

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Thanks Lynne!

I do recall that I was on a program of B vitamins that seriously improved my

mind for awhile. Maybe I should go back to that. I've never tried those oils

you mentioned, and I'm going to go out and find them. Your advice is always so

appreciated, Thank you SO much!

Best wishes!

Emma

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Speaking of B vitamins, does anyone know a brand that has all B

vitamins and folic acid in one easy to swallow gel capsule or even

softgel? My dr did advise me to take the all in one B that has

B1,2,3,6 & 12 and to make sure it was balanced with folic acid to

improve my thinking and ease neuropathy. The bottle I have is long

tablets which are not enteric coated and are extremely hard to get

down. It starts dissolving as soon as its in my mouth and of course

it takes horrendous. Plus it just doesn't glide down the throat well.

>

> Thanks Lynne!

>

> I do recall that I was on a program of B vitamins that seriously

improved my

> mind for awhile. Maybe I should go back to that. I've never tried

those oils

> you mentioned, and I'm going to go out and find them. Your advice

is always so

> appreciated, Thank you SO much!

> Best wishes!

> Emma

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's new at

> http://www.aol.com

>

>

>

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I take niacinamide (B3) and a B complex, but can anyone tell me about B-13

Thanks, Skip

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Speaking of B vitamins, does anyone know a brand that has all B

vitamins and folic acid in one easy to swallow gel capsule or even

softgel? My dr did advise me to take the all in one B that has

B1,2,3,6 & 12 and to make sure it was balanced with folic acid to

improve my thinking and ease neuropathy. The bottle I have is long

tablets which are not enteric coated and are extremely hard to get

down. It starts dissolving as soon as its in my mouth and of course

it takes horrendous. Plus it just doesn't glide down the throat well.

>

> Thanks Lynne!

>

> I do recall that I was on a program of B vitamins that seriously

improved my

> mind for awhile. Maybe I should go back to that. I've never tried

those oils

> you mentioned, and I'm going to go out and find them. Your advice

is always so

> appreciated, Thank you SO much!

> Best wishes!

> Emma

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's new at

> http://www.aol.com?wp_ml=0

>

>

>

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Hi Emma! The others know so much more about the B vitamins. Especially Lynne.

I spoke to her about trace minerals also. There is so much to learn! Two

years of

research and I've only just begun to scratch the surface. I think you will

make a great

doctor. Write whenever you need a boost. We all need that sometimes! Thanks

for

the compliments.~~~~~~Dolores

emluv23@... wrote:

Hi Dolores!

Thank you so so much for all your words of encouragement! You are one of my

biggest inspirations- I think of you often when I'm studying- it's patients

like you that I am in this for. I'm thinking if I stick with this path of study

either my cognitive function will come back as I recover, or I will find a

method for overcoming it! Some sort of cognitive behavioral therapy or some

recently discovered research in neuroscience will come to the rescue. I will

keep at

it! Thank you for everything- I wouldn't be doing so incredibly well

physically without all the advice of this group.

Best wishes!

Emma

**************************************

See what's new at

http://www.aol.com

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