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Toddnick64,

Welcome.

Congratulations on controlling your diabetes.

My name is Ted and I have been a type I diabetic since I was about 2

years old (1964).

If a non-diabetic takes an insulin shot, they would experience a low

blood sugar level. A long time ago, I understand " insulin therapy " was used

to keep some patients in mental hospitals under control.

When a shot of insulin is taken, the insulin is present in our

bodies regardless of whether we eat or not. Whereas, when a non-diabetic

eats some food, the brain tells the pancreas to make some insulin to keep

the BG at the correct level.

TOO MUCH INSULIN CAN AFFECT ONE'S BODY AS WELL AS THINKING. I know

when I have a low blood sugar; relatively simple things become major

challenges.

So, when you take your Humalog, you need to eat or you will have

problems.

I hope this gives you a better idea of what is happening.

Regards

Ted

Introduction and Question

My question is this.....

I understand that my body no longer produces insulin. But on the

other side of the equation, why is it that my body is now capable

(quite so) of allowing lows. That has nothing to do with insulin

production does it?? I mean is the body's normal production so

accurate that it never triggers a low and an emergency mechanism of

sugar release?? If it does it for a normal person, why not a type 1

diabetic?? If I gave a normal person a nice shot of Humalog would

they experience a low or would their body compensate somehow??

I probably should know the answer to this....but thanks for your

input....

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toddnick64 wrote:

> My question is this.....

>

> I understand that my body no longer produces insulin. But on the

> other side of the equation, why is it that my body is now capable

> (quite so) of allowing lows.

Hi,

It's the long-term residual action of the insulin. So when your body

decides it needs a bit of glucose because you are going low, there is

residual insulin and it knocks out the balancing insulin.

Even fast acting insulin has a slight action for about 5 hours. It is

not all active at the peak time.

In a normal person there would be no residual insulin to knock out the

glucose produced by the body to prevent a low - and so the production of

glucose would prevent the lows for sure.

But - Once you inject insulin, you can't take it back!! Any unused

insulin will continue to act as your body produces glucose to try to

prevent a low - thwarting the attempt.

The normal body will not make more than it needs, and will certainly not

produce insulin while also producing glucose - it's one or the other.

Only a person *injecting* insulin can get glucose production - and

left-over insulin - going to work at the same time - causing the lows.

Namaste,

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Hi Cheryl, I'm Cindi and I am also new to the group. I have many of your same

problems in regards to spine, neck and fibro. My rheu. dr. thinks that what is

going on in my spine is somewhat to blame for some of my fibro pain. I believe

that my chiropracter helps me tremendously. Find a good one in your area and

just go for a consultation. A reputable chiropracter won't make claims they

can't support. Mine charges less if you pay as you go with no insurance and the

price is very reasonable--much lower than what they charge insurance. I usually

need to go about every 4 weeks. My body tells me when it's time. I also go for

a massage every other week. That is very good for my back but I have found that

it is too painful if I'm in a full fledged flare. I wish insurance would pay

for massage therapy because it is so beneficial. I hope that you can find and

afford a chiropracter who can help you.

crestierescue wrote: Hi! I'm new to the list

and I wanted to say hi to everyone!

I'm Cheryl and I live in Michigan. I've been in pain for a

long, long time of one type or another. I started getting complicated

migraines when I hit puberty. They are basically a small stroke

before the horrible pain with all the symptoms of a stroke. I am

on daily medication to prevent them and I know most of the triggers

so I avoid those things like the plague.

I started getting a different type of headache just over a year ago.

Along with numbness and extreme dizziness and achiness all over. My

skin also got very sensitive to the touch and felt like I had been

burned. I'd had it alot before, but this was extreme. My doctor sent

me to a

neurologist and they did an MRI and a cat scan and x-rays. Also muscle

and nerve tests and didn't find anything wrong with me. So they sent

me away and I had no answers. I started wondering if it was from

a pinched nerve, so I went and had a consult with a chiropractor.

He did xrays and found that while my lower back was a bit out of whack,

my neck vertebrae was curved backwards and very compressed and developing

bone spurs and trying to fuse together because of the compression.

He recommends adjustments and said that is most likely causing all

of my problems.

In order to go to the chiropractor and have my insurance cover

it, my doctor would have to refer me. But my doctor doesn't

refer to chiropractors. I made an appointment with one of the

other doctors in his practice to try to convince him of my

need. After all, he had never been able to tell me what was

wrong with me. (not that he even tried)

This doctor was a woman and I liked her much better. She listened

to all that I had wrong with me, looked at all my test results

and then did the touch tests on me. She told me then that I had

fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. She also told me that

she wouldn't go to a chiropractor for adjustments, but that I could

go for massage if I wanted to.

So my question is... do any of you go to a chiropractor for

the fibromyalgia? My doctor is afraid that he will paralyze

me. Will chiropractics help with the symptoms or make them

worse? I'm still concerned about my neck vertebrae. Is

there any known connection between a bad spine and fibro?

Thanks for any input and I look forward to learning from you

all!

Cheryl

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I could not live without chiropractic. Find a good one, make sure he/she

does X-rays initially and asks about your complete history, if not, look for a

different one. I had one for 13 years that did not take x-rays ever, he was

getting too rough toward the end, and I was having more problems after each

adjustment, so I found a much better, gentler and thorough chiropractor. He is

amazing. Massage is great too, but I cannot afford it right now.

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Thank you for the information, Cindi! I have been to 2

chiros for consulations so far. One I didn't care for,

and the other one I like. He wants to see me 3 times

a week for a month, then 2 times a week for a month

and then once a week for a month. Then after that, we

will talk about a maintenance schedule if my neck is

back to where it should be. It would be hard financially

to do that often even with my insurance, but if it will

help, I'll do whatever I have to do.

I started to think about 6 months ago that part of the

pain might be from my spine. I slipped and fell down a

step and jolted my back and I was totally pain free

for a good week. So it started me thinking....

I'll let you all know what I decide and if it helps to

go to chiro if I decide to start it.

Cheryl

" Hairless Hugs and Crested Kisses "

Skyclad Chinese Cresteds

> Hi Cheryl, I'm Cindi and I am also new to the group. I have many of your

> same problems in regards to spine, neck and fibro. My rheu. dr. thinks that

> what is going on in my spine is somewhat to blame for some of my fibro pain.

> I believe that my chiropracter helps me tremendously. Find a good one in

> your area and just go for a consultation. A reputable chiropracter won't

> make claims they can't support. Mine charges less if you pay as you go with

> no insurance and the price is very reasonable--much lower than what they

> charge insurance. I usually need to go about every 4 weeks. My body tells

> me when it's time. I also go for a massage every other week. That is very

> good for my back but I have found that it is too painful if I'm in a full

> fledged flare. I wish insurance would pay for massage therapy because it is

> so beneficial. I hope that you can find and afford a chiropracter who can

> help you.

>

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Hi, Cheryl. Welcome to the group. I don't have an answer to your question,

but it is a good one. I, too suffer with a neck condition and back when I

had insurance the neurologist wanted to do surgery on it. They knew I have

fibro, but nothing was ever said to me that my neck problem was related to the

fibro. I have heard so many others on here speak of neck and back problems,

so I do wonder if they are related.

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> I could not live without chiropractic. Find a good one, make sure he/she

> does X-rays initially and asks about your complete history, if not, look

> for a

> different one. I had one for 13 years that did not take x-rays ever, he

> was

> getting too rough toward the end, and I was having more problems after

> each

> adjustment, so I found a much better, gentler and thorough chiropractor.

> He is

> amazing. Massage is great too, but I cannot afford it right now.

>

> Kris

Thanks for your info Kris. The first chiro that I went to didn't do xrays.

Said they didn't need to. That they could 'feel " what I needed and when

I was better. But how do " I " know? The second one does xrays and I

can actually see how bad I am and I will be able to see when my spine

looks like it is supposed to.

>

>

> Cheryl

> " Hairless Hugs and Crested Kisses "

> Skyclad Chinese Cresteds

>

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