Re: Why Do I Still Get Exausted By 3pm? On 40mg HC

[Guest guest]

You say you dose every 3 hours, so is 2 p.m. covered in that time

frame?

Do you have temp data? Does BP rise upon standing? Any recent labs?

Barb

>

> The mornings are great for me. I am alert until about 2pm, then I

> begin to feel very tired.

>

> I take 10mg (cream) HC when I wake up, and another 10mg 3 hrs

> later....on a total of 40mg HC per day (with 10-7.5mg bedtime

dose).

>

> I take sea salt, licorice, etc.

>

> Temps were more stable at 27.5 HC with no thyroid.

>

> It has been very difficult to stabilize temps when I added 5mg T3.

I

> really need to get some thyroid in my body and have been slowly

> working up to 37.5, which I take 6.25 every 2 hours until I crash.

>

> I am having trouble managing my days because I am so exhausted. Any

> other things I should consider?

>

> Tasia

>

[Guest guest]

Have you had your adrenaline (epinephrine) levels checked? Mine were

1/2 of the low end of normal and my norepinephrine levels were on the

low end of normal. Once I started Adrecor (made by NeuroScience) I

started having much more energy during the day.

[Guest guest]

How are they tested???

Re: Why Do I Still Get Exausted By 3pm? On 40mg HC

> Have you had your adrenaline (epinephrine) levels checked? Mine were

> 1/2 of the low end of normal and my norepinephrine levels were on the

> low end of normal. Once I started Adrecor (made by NeuroScience) I

> started having much more energy during the day.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'll try to respond to everyone's suggestions...This is a mystery to me.

My PB does rise when I stand.

121/77 to 130/78

108/79 to 132/79

I do not have any saliva/cortisol labs. But I did have a neuro-science

lab tested in August and it showed my neuro transmitters low and

DHEA/androgens very very high. However, I do have a problem with the

neuro-science products because they have a lot of additives in them.

Something in their GABBA product throws me into a serious

anxiety/stimulant spell rather than relaxing me.

I will need to research the precursors for neuro-transmitters and take

the direct form of those amino acids. Please share if you have info...

Val mentioned my thyroid dose is low. I assume people are happy on

75-100 mg of T3? I increased my T3 to 43.75 yesterday and didn't have

time for a nap--I was EXHAUSTED by the evening and had a migraine.

Multi-dosing (6.25 T3, and 5mg HC at a time) did help me last till 6pm.

Tasia

[Guest guest]

I'll try to respond to everyone's suggestions...This is a mystery to me.

My PB does rise when I stand.

121/77 to 130/78

108/79 to 132/79

I do not have any saliva/cortisol labs. But I did have a neuro-science

lab tested in August and it showed my neuro transmitters low and

DHEA/androgens very very high. However, I do have a problem with the

neuro-science products because they have a lot of additives in them.

Something in their GABBA product throws me into a serious

anxiety/stimulant spell rather than relaxing me.

I will need to research the precursors for neuro-transmitters and take

the direct form of those amino acids. Please share if you have info...

Val mentioned my thyroid dose is low. I assume people are happy on

75-100 mg of T3? I increased my T3 to 43.75 yesterday and didn't have

time for a nap--I was EXHAUSTED by the evening and had a migraine.

Multi-dosing (6.25 T3, and 5mg HC at a time) did help me last till 6pm.

Tasia

[Guest guest]

I too was on T3 only. I agree with Val, you are still on a low dose.

I was on 175mcg at one time. Now I am slowly switching back to

Armour & after 4 weeks I am still on 75mcg with my 6 grains of Armour.

Gale

>

> I'll try to respond to everyone's suggestions...This is a mystery to me.

>

> My PB does rise when I stand.

> 121/77 to 130/78

> 108/79 to 132/79

>

> I do not have any saliva/cortisol labs. But I did have a neuro-science

> lab tested in August and it showed my neuro transmitters low and

> DHEA/androgens very very high. However, I do have a problem with the

> neuro-science products because they have a lot of additives in them.

> Something in their GABBA product throws me into a serious

> anxiety/stimulant spell rather than relaxing me.

>

> I will need to research the precursors for neuro-transmitters and take

> the direct form of those amino acids. Please share if you have info...

>

> Val mentioned my thyroid dose is low. I assume people are happy on

> 75-100 mg of T3? I increased my T3 to 43.75 yesterday and didn't have

> time for a nap--I was EXHAUSTED by the evening and had a migraine.

> Multi-dosing (6.25 T3, and 5mg HC at a time) did help me last till 6pm.

>

> Tasia

>

[Guest guest]

>>Val mentioned my thyroid dose is low. I assume people are happy on

75-100 mg of T3? I increased my T3 to 43.75 yesterday and didn't have

time for a nap--I was EXHAUSTED by the evening and had a migraine.

Multi-dosing (6.25 T3, and 5mg HC at a time) did help me last till 6pm.<<

Dosin on T3 is very individual. I have been on 150mcg for 8 months and it si

good for me there, but you raising it THAT fast may have simply crashed oyur

adrenals where NONE got through to the cells. It must be raises slower than that

how sleowly depends on the statte of your cortiosl and how much your adrenals

can cover.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

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>

> Dosin on T3 is very individual. I have been on 150mcg for 8 months

and it si good for me there, but you raising it THAT fast may have

simply crashed oyur adrenals where NONE got through to the cells. It

must be raises slower than that how sleowly depends on the statte of

your cortiosl and how much your adrenals can cover.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

>

Yeah, that was poor management on my part. My dosing suck up on me.

I was taking T3-6.25mg about every 2 hrs, and 5mg HC every 3 hrs.

Strangely enough, my temp has been a steady 98.6 for the last 2 days.

I assume if my temp. moves too much today it would be a sign to ease

off the T3.

I won't be around till evening to reply...

Tasia

[Guest guest]

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> I too was on T3 only. I agree with Val, you are still on a low dose.

> I was on 175mcg at one time. Now I am slowly switching back to

> Armour & after 4 weeks I am still on 75mcg with my 6 grains of Armour.

>

> Gale

>

>

Wow Gale, 6 grains of Amour and T3?? Are you sure you're done with

conversion issues? Still on HC?

What kind of differences do you notice when you add Amour?

I agree with both you and Val about my dose. I am still hypo. Gained

25lbs of hypo belly in 2 months, dry skin, no nails, hair loss,

morning foot pain, stiff muscles, carpel tunnel...I'm sure every one

is familiar with the list

Tasia

[Guest guest]

I am learning that it is much harder to go from Cytomel to Armour then

from Armour to Cytomel. The first week that I added the 6gr of Armour

I only reduced the Cytomel by 25mcg. Over the next 3 weeks I reduced

the T3 another 50mcg. I seem to be kinda stuck at this dose & may

evne need to raise it now that the HC is starting to work. I am

really winging it here. :-)

Your hypo symptoms sound just like mine. I had them all & still do

most of them. The first thing to get better was the foot pain.

All I can say is pay attention to what Val says. I should have

listened to her a year ago when she told me to do the Saliva test. I

finally tested last month & got on HC. I am beginning to see some

improvment finally.

Gale

> Wow Gale, 6 grains of Amour and T3?? Are you sure you're done with

> conversion issues? Still on HC?

>

> What kind of differences do you notice when you add Amour?

>

> I agree with both you and Val about my dose. I am still hypo. Gained

> 25lbs of hypo belly in 2 months, dry skin, no nails, hair loss,

> morning foot pain, stiff muscles, carpel tunnel...I'm sure every one

> is familiar with the list

>

> Tasia

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention that since I became hypo in May of 06 I have

gained 52 lbs. I believe that will be the last symptom to be resolved

but I refuse to give up.

Gale

> >

> > I too was on T3 only. I agree with Val, you are still on a low dose.

> > I was on 175mcg at one time. Now I am slowly switching back to

> > Armour & after 4 weeks I am still on 75mcg with my 6 grains of

Armour.

> >

> > Gale

> >

> >

> Wow Gale, 6 grains of Amour and T3?? Are you sure you're done with

> conversion issues? Still on HC?

>

> What kind of differences do you notice when you add Amour?

>

> I agree with both you and Val about my dose. I am still hypo. Gained

> 25lbs of hypo belly in 2 months, dry skin, no nails, hair loss,

> morning foot pain, stiff muscles, carpel tunnel...I'm sure every one

> is familiar with the list

>

> Tasia

>