New to Group

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I am so glad that you are here Janet, I know you'll find answers to many

questions here and make a few friends along the way as well!

Jill

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the family, Janet! What's your grandaughter's name and where do you

live?

Love Lana

52, Hypermobile EDS

Omaha, NE

[Guest guest]

What is she to do, chase him around the house with a horsewhip? Short

of that, she can't MAKE him exercise if he doesn't want to.

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Amber,

I've been reading your posts since you join the list. The one thing

your husband needs to realize is that he almost MUST exercise.

[Guest guest]

> What is she to do, chase him around the house with a horsewhip?

Short

> of that, she can't MAKE him exercise if he doesn't want to.

>

I agree with Deborah. " Not enough energy to exercise " is a self-

defeating strategy. When her husband says he can't exercise, she

should ask him " OK, which foot do you want to lose? " . The long-term

consequences are too great to just say " OK " .

, Charlotte NC

[Guest guest]

<<<<What is she to do, chase him around the house with a horsewhip? Short of

that, she can't MAKE him exercise if he doesn't want to.>>>>

That is so true. She cannot make him do anything he does not want to do. Been

there, done that. My husband is a long haul trucker. Drank an average of 8

liters of pop every single week. Eat 3 times what he should have for every

meal. No matter what I said it did not matter to him. But the more I learned

through my son's diagnosis the more I was able to go at him with information

that actually made sense.

It took til the winter of 2001 and a bad fall off a ladder that messed his hand

up and kept him off work for 5 months til my husband actually started listening

to me. The first couple weeks he was home I made simple comments on just about

everything he put in his mouth. Came down to a screaming match that he would be

dead in 10 years because he did not care to look after himself that finally made

him open his eyes. He knew I knew what I was talking about. We had our son

with Type 1 and I did everything I could to keep him healthy.

We spent the next few months with my dishing out everything he ate. Okay,

granted he may have had a bit more for seconds but he was eating less and less.

His snacking mellowed out and he was thinking about everything that went in his

mouth. By the time he went back to work he was eating much better. Hunger.

Yes. Celery and cucumber and salads. So expensive in the middle of winter.

And so worth every single penny we spent on it.

You can lead a horse to water. My theory has become if they don't want to drink

it, drown them! Okay, just kidding but honestly. If it takes a good fight to

wake them up......go for it!!!

Em

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sinusrhythm58 wrote:

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> I agree with Deborah. " Not enough energy to exercise " is a self-

> defeating strategy.

> , Charlotte NC

I'm afraid I can't keep on the subject or I'll be " nagging. " He's going

to have to do it for himself. He read the letter from Deborah, which I

found overwhelming. I think I'm going to have to leave it up to him now.

Amber

[Guest guest]

>

>. When her husband says he can't exercise, she

> should ask him " OK, which foot do you want to lose? " . The long-

term

> consequences are too great to just say " OK " .

> , Charlotte NC

Well, different family members tried this tactic in an effort to

encourage me to lose weight. Not only did it not work, it just made

me angry and less likely to want to see them any time soon. Bruce

is right- he has to do it on his own, regardless of someone else's

concerns over long term consquences. And I did ultimately lose alot

of weight, but only after I found out I was type 2. So yeah mom,

you were right, I should have dieted sooner, but had to learn the

hard way. That's the way life is sometimes,

gail

[Guest guest]

As a recently-divorced buddy of mine said, " My ex-wife never beat me with her

fists, but she did a more than adequate job with her tongue! "

Re: Re: New to group

That's true but she can nag him into it... =)

[Guest guest]

That's true but she can nag him into it... =)

Though it is true, you cant make someone do something they don't want to do.

Angelia in OR who has an extra horsewhip if needed... =)

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From: " , Bruce "

>

> What is she to do, chase him around the house with a horsewhip? Short

> of that, she can't MAKE him exercise if he doesn't want to.

>

[Guest guest]

I am aware of that... it was kind of a tongue n' cheek thing to say. I hate

nagging, and refuse to do it.

If I have an issue with something that my husband hasn't done, I let him

know. In an easy going matter, letting him know how it made me feel that he

ignored my request without giving me a reason.

When I was diagnosed with Diabetes a year ago, my husband nagged at me and

gave me a hard time, ALL the time. It helped me do what I needed to do. He

has since stopped, and well... I am having a hard time sticking to my guns.

Though I have set my goals, and refuse to allow myself to " fail " .

Everyone is different for sure... =)

Angelia in OR who has tons of things to do for Thanksgiving...

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> That's true but she can nag him into it... =)

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Gail McDermott wrote:

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> Well, different family members tried this tactic in an effort to

> encourage me to lose weight. Not only did it not work, it just made

> me angry and less likely to want to see them any time soon.

> gail

That's exactly why I said it would have to be up to him.

Amber

[Guest guest]

Em Hornby wrote:

>

> You can lead a horse to water. My theory has become if they don't

> want to drink it, drown them! Okay, just kidding but honestly. If it

> takes a good fight to wake them up......go for it!!!

> Em

>

I'm glad it worked for you but I can't do that. I try to put myself in

the other person's place and I wouldn't like it to be done to me.

Amber

[Guest guest]

A woman I know got her husband to start taking care of himself by

blatently ogling good-looking men, and when he called her on it sayin

something like, " I'm shopping for a second husband for when you've eaten

yourself into an early grave. "

Re: Re: New to group

It took til the winter of 2001 and a bad fall off a ladder that messed

his hand up and kept him off work for 5 months til my husband actually

started listening to me. The first couple weeks he was home I made

simple comments on just about everything he put in his mouth. Came down

to a screaming match that he would be dead in 10 years because he did

not care to look after himself that finally made him open his eyes. He

knew I knew what I was talking about. We had our son with Type 1 and I

did everything I could to keep him healthy.

[Guest guest]

, Bruce wrote:

> A woman I know got her husband to start taking care of himself by

> blatently ogling good-looking men, and when he called her on it sayin

> something like, " I'm shopping for a second husband for when you've eaten

> yourself into an early grave. "

>

>

That sounds more like something I'd see on a soap opera rather than in

my life. I feel like I've talked to him just about all he can stand.

I'm starting to work out now myself since the last x-ray of my broken

bones looked better, so I'm hoping that will help to inspire him. We've

also ordered a more comfortable looking seat for our spinner bike and it

should arrive next week. I hope that will help, too.

Amber

[Guest guest]

Amber

I would say that I feel about the same way this person does about Bob

not exercising, but do not want to offend you or Bob. I realize

there may be factors with Bob that I'm unaware of. But I know that

once I'm out the door, huffing and puffing and NOT feeling well, I

absolutely MUST push onward to GET MY BREATHING AND CIRCULATION UP,

then it does some good. No push, no gain.

(Now, the obligatory disclaimer..... and so forth...)

How about getting Bob on the computer? I'd love to hear from him.

Does he hate us? Just because we nag and bully ain't no reason....

LOL

Janie

> Amber,

>

> I've been reading your posts since you join the list. The one

thing your husband needs to realize is that he almost MUST exercise.

Medication alone is not going to get his numbers down, nor will

insulin. Exercise will drop your numbers fast. When my numbers are

[Guest guest]

Geof,

The trick to avoiding the side effects of metformin is to eat it on a

tummy that has food in it. Best method is to take it half way through

your meal. If it lands on a bed of food then it never touches the

stomach lining and can't interact.

I also found that the 500 mg 2x per day did not bring the numbers down

enough so after about 3 weeks of that my doc added glipizide 2x day,

which is the generic version of Glucotrol. My numbers came right in line

with that. The only side effects with that is that late in the afternoon

my sugars get too low and I have to watch for lows.

It seems that the meds are trial and error and most of us get prescribed

the met then the glip if the # are still stubborn. Alot of us also get

stuck with cholesterols and blood pressue meds as routine whether our

3's show we need it or not. They are prescribed as " protection " .

Good luck,

Geof Waller wrote:

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> Hello All,

>

> I've been lurking for a few weeks, thought I'd step up and introduce

> muself. Diagnosed (officially)w/t2 about three weeks ago. I've

> known for six months what was going on, but I've been in some

> healthy denial. Over the summer I was peeing 2x an hour and

> couldn't see clearly 5 feet in front of me. I cut out the regular

> soda and things seemed to be better. " See, I'm fine " . My dear wife

> & her mother keept insisting and finally got me to the doctor three

> weeks ago. bg was 222 after an 8 hour fast & A1c was 10.1, Dr put

> me on 500mg metforminXR (LOVE those side effects!!). Just finished

> my initial diabetic education classes yesterday. Boy did I learn

> that I didn't know much. Having a couple of frustrating days,

> finally got my monitor yesterday at class and I've been testing in

> the mid 200's 2 hours after eating & none of my meals have been over

> 60 g of carbs(diatician said I could have 75g).I feel like I've been

> really good and not seeing results. Have another Dr. appt. tomorrow

> & I have a feeling she is going to increase my meds.

>

> Anyways, this seems like a really good community with some really

> neat people. Reading some of your stories & seeing the positive

> attituded has helped me with my current struggle with depression.

>

> peace

> Geof

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[Guest guest]

Hi !!

Welcome to the group and congrats on that sweet baby boy!!!

I would go back to basics!! Protein protein protein cut way back on

your carbs good and bad carbs. Go back to eating protein first and

veggies or fruit second TRY to cut out all bread and get moving. go

walking, do an exercise tape or join a gym.

You can do this!!! If you have any more questions PLEASE feel free

to post them.

Hugs!!!

>

> Hi everyone!!

>

> My name is and I am new to this group. I am 27 and had

> surgery in 2004. In October of 2005 I had a beautiful baby boy but

now

> I am trying to lose post pregnancy weight as well still trying to

meet

> my weight loss surgery goal. Any ideas or tips?

>

> Thanks:)

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello. My name is Teri and I live in the Dallas area. I am pre-op

bypass client in the process of getting approved. I have a question for

some of you who have already been thru this process. I was wondering

what post-op members' experiences are with loose skin, related health

issues and surgery options.

Don't get me wrong. I am so hopeful about this surgery! To reach my

goal weight (set up with the dietician working with me on my required 6

month doctor supervisor diet for insurance) I will lose 1/2 of what I am

currently. I have struggled with my weight all my life and have tried

everything to lose, having health problems due to or exacerbated by

excess weight... You all know the story, I am sure!

So, long story short, I want the surgery with all my heart because I see

it as my only hope, but I am scared about having loose skin, getting

infections, etc.

Any feedback?

Thanks and I am glad to have found this support group!

Teri

[Guest guest]

Teri,

You will have loose skin, if you work out and use

weight training it helps alot. My surgeon told me

pre-op that being 40 yrs old and needing to loose

100lbs based on all the circumstances involved, that I

shouldn't need a tummy tuck. Well...after 98 lbs lose

I could use a tummy tuck and a breast job, thighs and

arms needs attention, but with working out it is

helping alot. To be honest with you, the weight loss

far out weighs some loose skin and face it...I'm not

20 yrs old.

Also my surgeon and his staff told me insurance would

cover (blue cross) the breast and tummy surgery, after

100lb loss,absolutely 100% untrue! It was like

dangling a carrot in front of a horse! Before surgery

I ask blue cross about the reconstructive surgeries I

was told only would it be considered if I had breast

that fell below the waist and cause sever skin rashes

which after treatments of 1 year would they

considering covering it. Same with the tummy, your

skin has to hang to your knees and cause terrible

rashes that medicine will not treat. And then they

will " consider " it.

With some work on your side, you will tighten up your

skin and weighs will help. I'm just thrilled I lost

the weight and feel great most of the time. Take all

the information you receive and follow thru with it

and do the research.

Best of luck!

Chele

--- rawkchick69 wrote:

>

> Hello. My name is Teri and I live in the Dallas

> area. I am pre-op

> bypass client in the process of getting approved. I

> have a question for

> some of you who have already been thru this process.

> I was wondering

> what post-op members' experiences are with loose

> skin, related health

> issues and surgery options.

>

> Don't get me wrong. I am so hopeful about this

> surgery! To reach my

> goal weight (set up with the dietician working with

> me on my required 6

> month doctor supervisor diet for insurance) I will

> lose 1/2 of what I am

> currently. I have struggled with my weight all my

> life and have tried

> everything to lose, having health problems due to or

> exacerbated by

> excess weight... You all know the story, I am sure!

>

> So, long story short, I want the surgery with all my

> heart because I see

> it as my only hope, but I am scared about having

> loose skin, getting

> infections, etc.

>

> Any feedback?

>

> Thanks and I am glad to have found this support

> group!

>

> Teri

>

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