Re: Re: Know a Physician in Birmingham Alabama?

[Guest guest]

Hi , I read on your last email that you are in Arizona. My wife and I

live in Mesa. Could you tell me what doctor you're seeing. My wife has been

diagnosed with MCTD or Lyme, which ever doctor is looking at her. Thanks Phil

rheumatic Re: Know a Physician in Birmingham Alabama?

I just remembered there is a Lyme doc in Missouri. In O'Fallon I

think. He is somewhat close. I can get his name if anyone is

interested.

If anyone will travel to AZ my dr will treat RA and Lyme with abx.

Just thought I would put that out in case someone else on board is

in my state.

> who uses antibiotics to treat rheum problems?? Mine wants to put

me

> on Plaquenil and I am scared of it.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Dr. Sentef's treatment uses Minocin (2 x 100 mg), Metronidazol

(Flagyl)(2 x 250 mg) and

Ketocanazol ( Nizoral) ( 2 x 200 mg) every day until blood values are

normal (ESR and CRP) If you are RF positive this factor is the most

reliable indicator.

It takes from 3 to 6 months to reach normal values. About 80 % of

patients respond

successfully.

Good luck,

tickmeister1 wrote:

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> Do you know what the triple antibiotic treatment is? Can you share

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[Guest guest]

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One more thing. Since the liver has to process all these antibiotics and

other medications, it needs

all the support it can get. For this reason, take 2 x 600 mg

N-Acetylcysteine (NAC)per day. Milk thistle

extract is another good liver support.

tickmeister1 wrote:

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> Do you know what the triple antibiotic treatment is? Can you share

> that with us>

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> Thanks,

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> > > who uses antibiotics to treat rheum problems?? Mine wants to put

> me

> > > on Plaquenil and I am scared of it.

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[Guest guest]

Hi , I would like to know about the triple antibotic therapy also. Could

you please

find out what they are, how they are administered and how often.Thank you,

Dolores

tickmeister1 <wtptoo@...> wrote:

Do you know what the triple antibiotic treatment is? Can you share

that with us>

Thanks,

> >

> > who uses antibiotics to treat rheum problems?? Mine wants to put

me

> > on Plaquenil and I am scared of it.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dodo;

That is the same protocol that I am doing. MP becomes a 3er in the

last stage.

mike rosner wrote:

> Hi , I would like to know about the triple antibotic therapy

> also. Could you please

> find out what they are, how they are administered and how often.Thank

> you, Dolores

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> tickmeister1 <wtptoo@... <mailto:wtptoo%40>> wrote:

> Do you know what the triple antibiotic treatment is? Can you share

> that with us>

>

> Thanks,

>

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> > > who uses antibiotics to treat rheum problems?? Mine wants to put

> me

> > > on Plaquenil and I am scared of it.

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[Guest guest]

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The Nizoral is an antifungal antibiotic and is meant to fight any

candida in fection. It is often dropped after

a month or two.

Since in your casethe CRP and ESR is low or even normal I suspect you do

not have RA. NSAIDS would not

reduce these parameters to normal. My wife took Naproxen and others for

months without reducing

her CRP and ESR.

tickmeister1 wrote:

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> Thank you for posting the dosages and meds. I have taken Minocin and

> Flagyl together. But have never taken Nizoral ever. I will discuss

> this with my doctor. I've never had high ESR, CPR and not RF

> positive. I just have super high centromeric ANA and positive Lyme

> tests. My Bowen (Lyme) test was so high they couldn't give me a

> number because it was off their scale. I was surprised my CRP has

> always been low, but perhaps its because I take daily NSAIDS??

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> > > > > who uses antibiotics to treat rheum problems?? Mine wants to

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[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: " tickmeister1 " <wtptoo@...>

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:28 PM

> ,

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> I've been really uncertain as of late what to do about milk thistle,

> etc. My first LLMD insisted one must take liver support supplments

> to survive the antibiotics. However I have talked to several other

> Lymies who say their doctor said the milk thistle actually

> inactivates the antibiotic treatment and that one is fighting

> against their antibiotics by taking the liver supplements.

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I haven't heard that one before, but if you don't want to take milk thistle,

you might want to consider taking n. acetyl cysteine or alpha lipoic acid.

The liver needs

glutathione to process the toxins, but glutathione is found low in people

with

disease as well as in the aged. Glutathione does not survive stomach acid

so should be taken sublingually

or, better yet, in an IV push; however, both NAC and ALA are precursors to

glutathione. Both supplements

are great antioxidants as is glutathione - often called the master

antioxidant. .

I have a note in my files that says NAC has oxidizing properties, so when

taking it you should always take

three times as much Vitamin C as NAC.

If you have elevated liver enzymes you might want to also consider castor

oil liver packs.

Ethel

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The question about liver protectants and interference with antibiotics

is a tricky one. Not all antibiotics

crash with liver protectants. So, do a web search for your antibiotic.

Since the liver is such an important organ, i would rather compromise

the antibiotic than risk the liver.

If you can space the antibiotic, maybe you can use the liver protectant

in between.

Find out what half-life your antibiotic has and follow with the liver

protectant when the AB is out of the system.

Good Luck,

tickmeister1 wrote:

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> ,

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> I've been really uncertain as of late what to do about milk thistle,

> etc. My first LLMD insisted one must take liver support supplments

> to survive the antibiotics. However I have talked to several other

> Lymies who say their doctor said the milk thistle actually

> inactivates the antibiotic treatment and that one is fighting

> against their antibiotics by taking the liver supplements. They were

> told go through the longterm abx first and after you're finished

> then go through intensive treatment with herbs and supplements to

> heal the damage to the liver. I have to say since I tried that

> method of not taking milk thistle while on antibiotics I do feel

> better and feel like the antibiotics work better.

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> > > > > who uses antibiotics to treat rheum problems?? Mine wants to

> put

> > > me

> > > > > on Plaquenil and I am scared of it.

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