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Former Drug Sales Rep Tells All

drug rep, sales, salesmanShahram Ahari, who spent two years selling Prozac

and Zypraxa for Eli Lily, told a Senate Aging Committee that his job

involved " rewarding physicians with gifts and attention for their allegiance

to your product and company despite what may be ethically appropriate. "

Ahari claims that drug companies often hire former cheerleaders and

ex-models, as well as former athletes and members of the military, even if

they have no background in science.

During their five-week training class, Ahari says he was taught sales

tactics such as:

* How to exceed spending limits for important clients

* How to be generous with free samples to leverage sales

* How to use friendships and personal gifts to foster a " quid pro quo "

relationship

* How to exploit sexual tension

Ahari claims that he's even heard stories about sales reps helping to pay

the cost of a doctor's swimming pool, or taking a doctor to a nightclub

where a hostess was paid to keep him company.

For this work, sales reps often earned more than researchers. On top of a

base salary of $50,000 for starting reps, Ahari says, " there were four

quarterly bonuses, an annual bonus, stock options, a car, 401K, great health

benefits, and a $60,000 expense account. "

Sources:

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Stuff like this has been going on for some time and its disgusting.

Pharmaceutical sales reps are sleazy and so are most doctors which is why they

can foster such immoral relationships.

But i have no reason to believe that dr mercola is any less shady and also out

for the allmighty dollar. I have yet to hear anyone on this board say he has

done anything amazing for them. He's a salesperson to me not above the people he

is putting down. His entire web site is about selling tons of random products,

that's it.

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Subject: rheumatic from doctor mercolla's web site

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Date: Saturday, April 5, 2008, 2:13 PM

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Former Drug Sales Rep Tells All

drug rep, sales, salesmanShahram Ahari, who spent two years selling Prozac

and Zypraxa for Eli Lily, told a Senate Aging Committee that his job

involved " rewarding physicians with gifts and attention for their allegiance

to your product and company despite what may be ethically appropriate. "

Ahari claims that drug companies often hire former cheerleaders and

ex-models, as well as former athletes and members of the military, even if

they have no background in science.

During their five-week training class, Ahari says he was taught sales

tactics such as:

* How to exceed spending limits for important clients

* How to be generous with free samples to leverage sales

* How to use friendships and personal gifts to foster a " quid pro quo "

relationship

* How to exploit sexual tension

Ahari claims that he's even heard stories about sales reps helping to pay

the cost of a doctor's swimming pool, or taking a doctor to a nightclub

where a hostess was paid to keep him company.

For this work, sales reps often earned more than researchers. On top of a

base salary of $50,000 for starting reps, Ahari says, " there were four

quarterly bonuses, an annual bonus, stock options, a car, 401K, great health

benefits, and a $60,000 expense account. "

Sources:

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I agree about Mercolla, but at least his web site has a few things good to

offer.

The reason I posted this is because of the discussions we all have had

concerning the cost of Minocin. The fact that the drug companies cannot make

a fortune off of it so they don't push it. BUT the drugs they do make a lot

of money on the sales reps are given tons of resources to convince the

doctors to push their meds. Also the doctors only use what's in front of

their noses (they forget how to use their brains once they get a private

practice).

It was just an FYI of how far drug companies still go to push their meds.

cooky

Stuff like this has been going on for some time and its disgusting.

Pharmaceutical sales reps are sleazy and so are most doctors which is why

they can foster such immoral relationships.

But i have no reason to believe that dr mercola is any less shady and also

out for the allmighty dollar. I have yet to hear anyone on this board say he

has done anything amazing for them. He's a salesperson to me not above the

people he is putting down. His entire web site is about selling tons of

random products, that's it.

[Guest guest]

I was looking at it from another angle I guess, because both conventional and

alternative docs try to make money, which is fine, but when it becomes all about

$ then its a problem. But you are right Cooky, you are 100% right in what you

said.

 

My own primary has tried to give me samples before but never pushed it.

 

I am pretty disgusted by the office though because everyday they have all these

pharma reps in there and one time one wanted to go in when it was MY appt time,

needless to say I stopped him right in his tracks.

 

The reps buy lunches for the WHOLE staff daily! And daily foo food coffees from

Starbucks along with scones, muffins etc...

 

I heard they take MY doc out to fancy dinners too!

 

If she wasn't willing to RX me what I asked, I would have left long ago. But I

ignore it as much as I can becasue she doesn't generally fight me on stuff.

Unfortunately she isnt too interested either in learning about how to help me.

But thats to be expected I guess.

From: C Stonkey <cookee1@...>

Subject: RE: rheumatic from doctor mercolla's web site

rheumatic

Date: Sunday, April 6, 2008, 2:32 PM

I agree about Mercolla, but at least his web site has a few things good to

offer.

The reason I posted this is because of the discussions we all have had

concerning the cost of Minocin. The fact that the drug companies cannot make

a fortune off of it so they don't push it. BUT the drugs they do make a lot

of money on the sales reps are given tons of resources to convince the

doctors to push their meds. Also the doctors only use what's in front of

their noses (they forget how to use their brains once they get a private

practice).

It was just an FYI of how far drug companies still go to push their meds.

cooky

Stuff like this has been going on for some time and its disgusting.

Pharmaceutical sales reps are sleazy and so are most doctors which is why

they can foster such immoral relationships.

But i have no reason to believe that dr mercola is any less shady and also

out for the allmighty dollar. I have yet to hear anyone on this board say he

has done anything amazing for them. He's a salesperson to me not above the

people he is putting down. His entire web site is about selling tons of

random products, that's it.

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Thanks Vicki. I unfortunately stay with a GP that I dislike because he is

willing to give me the meds also. Good luck to you.

Hugs,

Cooky

I was looking at it from another angle I guess, because both conventional

and alternative docs try to make money, which is fine, but when it becomes

all about $ then its a problem. But you are right Cooky, you are 100% right

in what you said.

My own primary has tried to give me samples before but never pushed it.

I am pretty disgusted by the office though because everyday they have all

these pharma reps in there and one time one wanted to go in when it was MY

appt time, needless to say I stopped him right in his tracks.

The reps buy lunches for the WHOLE staff daily! And daily foo food coffees

from Starbucks along with scones, muffins etc...

I heard they take MY doc out to fancy dinners too!

If she wasn't willing to RX me what I asked, I would have left long ago. But

I ignore it as much as I can becasue she doesn't generally fight me on

stuff. Unfortunately she isnt too interested either in learning about how to

help me. But thats to be expected I guess.._,___