Re: Dr Mashal protocol site

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Hello

could you please email me Dr. Marshal site (homepage).

is he living in USA or Aus.?

Thank you

soheila

--- Everitt <evincent@...> wrote:

> Jack-

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> Would certainly like to learn more. Would you mind

> forwarding

> information to me.

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> Thanks,

>

> Everitt

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> ________________________________

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> From: rheumatic

> [mailto:rheumatic ] On

> Behalf Of Jack

> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 12:29 AM

> rheumatic

> Subject: Re: rheumatic Connective tissue disorders

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> No, my joints work just fine although I have reason

> to believe that my

> left hip may have become a problem if I allowed it

> to be so. As it is,

> it's not a problem. Sandy, I am a teaching doctor.

> My little motto is

> " Where Health is Taught, Not Bought " . In order for

> one to learn and

> implement same to one's daily living, it's not just

> a simple matter of

> giving one a few pop recommendations like you see in

> magazines and

> newspapers and even on the internet like " Eat more

> fruits and

> vegetables " or " Get more exercise " as if food or

> exercise is a cure for

> disease. This takes commitment because what we're

> talking about here is

> not some " cure " mentality but literally changing

> your whole way of

> thinking about health and it's lower incarnations,

> i.e. dis ease because

> what the public has been " educated " to beleive that

> disease is and what

> it actually is, are not the same. If you've grown up

> in western culture,

> you've been to medical school whether you've

> matriculated or not. I'm

> speaking

> for myself as well. That's why I had to do over

> 17,000 hours of study in

> order to permanently change my thinking from the

> societal medical

> programming over a life time. You would have to do

> the same. This is not

> for sissies. If you were successful in actually

> getting what it is

> you're learning and inculcating same into your daily

> habits of living,

> you would notice small, progressive changes in your

> physiology. You

> would, for the first time, be able to correctly

> interpret those changes,

> something that with a public media medical as well

> as alternatives

> school education is presently impossible. BTW, your

> parents were victims

> of this same free educational process just as mine

> were and so were

> their parents and their parent's parents and so

> forth. You're just

> keeping up that mistradition, unfortunately to your

> own and your

> family's detriment. I will be the first in my family

> to break this

> pattern. I have the odds on my side of not

> experiencing any pathogenic

> problems as I age

> and I have a much higher probability of living

> longer than anyone in my

> family tree for many a generation. Will that happen?

> I don't know. I

> guess we'll have to wait and see. So while there's

> nothing I can email

> to you that will succinctly give you some short

> sweet magic formula, if

> you like, send me your regular mail address and I

> will send you some

> information and you can decide if the biologically

> correct approach to

> overcoming acute and chronic pathology is a

> commitment you're willing to

> make to yourself.

>

> I'm not saying this is germane to your situation but

> I will share with

> you that my knowledge is so important that it's the

> difference between

> life and death. So far, those that I could have

> helped who were in a

> life and death situation, refected my attempts to

> assist them and

> instead chose to go the medical route and they all

> died, some as young

> as 40, from pathogenic conditions that they would

> have overcome and

> potentially have gone on to live long healthly lives

> but they chose to

> be right, dead right. That's how strong the medical

> hypnotic trance is.

> No one even knows that they've been overwhelmingly

> hypnotized. That's

> how hypnotized they are. It's the greatest

> commercial scam of all times.

> People are suffering and dying by the billions from

> a lack of knowledge.

> You will have to decide if you would like to

> extricate yourself and your

> family from that statistic.

>

> Thank you for your inquiry.

>

> Yours in health,

>

> Jack

>

> 2468 8462 <sandykayball@...

> <mailto:sandykayball%40msn.com> > wrote:

> do you have connective tissue disorder? if so would

> you share with us

> what corrections you made in your nutrition that

> helped you? thx

>

> Sandy

>

> Beaumont, Ca

>

> MCTD

>

> AP - 7 years

> rheumatic Connective tissue disorders

>

> These pathogenic conditions are due to errors in

> nutrition wherein

> multiple biosystems aren't functioning properly.

> Medical symptom

> palliation is not the long term solution. This only

> addresses the

> effects, not the underlying causes. Medical problems

> are accidents,

> injuries, emergencies, birth defects and some

> corrective surgeries.

> These symptom complexes are reversible provided the

> process is stopped

> before there's cellular damage beyond the point of

> no return. Think

> subtraction not addition.

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http://www.marshallprotocol.com/

i think he's in the US but not sure. anyway you don't see him you'd see

a doc. you can ask on the site for a list of MP docs near you. i see one

in vancouver and i have an online friend who sees a doc in seatttle.

monique

[Guest guest]

Hi Gang! Geoff here.

It's interesting that the MP (Marshall Protocol) stresses staying away from

grains to lower Vitamin D levels. This approach, avoiding grains, is similar to

what Dr. Mercola is doing and having success with. It also seems to mimic my

personal experience of putting the RA into remission while avoiding grains and

other food items, then having it come back when those were reintroduced. It

seems worth noting that, at the same time it explains how increased Vitamin D,

such as with fish oil, can alleviate pain while allowing cell wall deficient

pathogens, such as mycoplasma, to multiply unhindered, thus " masking " our

symptoms similar to what the mainline drugs do.

Geoff

Acts 2:39

[Guest guest]

Geoff,

I just picked up on what you wrote that while fish oils alleviate pain that they

allow " cell wall deficient pathogens, such as mycoplasma, to multiply

unhindered, thus " masking " our symptoms similar to what the mainline drugs do. "

Do you think that taking fish oils hampers the progress of AP? It is something

I have wondered for some time myself, having tried the MP for my daughter

(RA since 2001) and failing miserably on it.

Caroline Stronge.

rheumatic Re: Dr Mashal protocol site

Hi Gang! Geoff here.

It's interesting that the MP (Marshall Protocol) stresses staying away from

grains to lower Vitamin D levels. This approach, avoiding grains, is similar to

what Dr. Mercola is doing and having success with. It also seems to mimic my

personal experience of putting the RA into remission while avoiding grains and

other food items, then having it come back when those were reintroduced. It

seems worth noting that, at the same time it explains how increased Vitamin D,

such as with fish oil, can alleviate pain while allowing cell wall deficient

pathogens, such as mycoplasma, to multiply unhindered, thus " masking " our

symptoms similar to what the mainline drugs do.

Geoff

Acts 2:39

[Guest guest]

hi geoff

i know grains are horrible for my RA - that and cooked meat - raw meat

is ok though. re MP and fish oil. it makes sense to me that initially

you feel better on cod liver oil as it acts as a sceosteroid but then

later worsen. i know ppl on MP now doing well who got worse on fish oil.

are you thinking of doing MP? i start it this may once i have moved.

monique

[Guest guest]

hi caroline

what happened with your daughter and MP? i know it can get much worse

before it gets better. i have followed 5 ppl with RA on MP and they are

all doing better than when they started. i know one woman on ap who

avoided all fish oil and other things with D and was in remission within

1 year. has ben fine for a few years now.

monique

[Guest guest]

Hi ;

I also know many who are doing just fabulously on MP.It is not that

the vit.D is a problem,it is the ratio of 1,25 to 25 that is the

problem.It has to get some sort of balance and the only way is to lower

it until the antibiotics can help.I wish I could start now but having an

orchid house that is a full time job makes it impossible to avoid high

light.I am just careful about eating anything that has it.Just that has

helped a lot.My ratio of 1,25 -25 was still 3 times too hight even

after 3 months of none in the diet.I got it down to 1.8 and AP suddenly

kicked in nicely Lynne SD

Sauve wrote:

> hi caroline

>

> what happened with your daughter and MP? i know it can get much worse

> before it gets better. i have followed 5 ppl with RA on MP and they are

> all doing better than when they started. i know one woman on ap who

> avoided all fish oil and other things with D and was in remission within

> 1 year. has ben fine for a few years now.

>

> monique

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

I read with interest your comments on vitamin D,25/25 ratio. You stated

that you finally

got it down to 1.8. Did you accomplish this with diet alone or are you

on Benicar ?

My wife nne is on AP for RA and doing well after about two

years.She is avoiding

vitamin D food as listed at MP but we have not recently checked for

the D ratio. She is

avoiding sun and bright light but not the degree list by the MP.

So, it would be of interest to us what you all tried to limit/reduce the

D ratio.

Thanks for your answer.

and nne

lynneandsantos wrote:

>

> Hi ;

> I also know many who are doing just fabulously on MP.It is not that

> the vit.D is a problem,it is the ratio of 1,25 to 25 that is the

> problem.It has to get some sort of balance and the only way is to lower

> it until the antibiotics can help.I wish I could start now but having an

> orchid house that is a full time job makes it impossible to avoid high

> light.I am just careful about eating anything that has it.Just that has

> helped a lot.My ratio of 1,25 -25 was still 3 times too hight even

> after 3 months of none in the diet.I got it down to 1.8 and AP suddenly

> kicked in nicely Lynne SD

>

> Sauve wrote:

>

> > hi caroline

> >

> > what happened with your daughter and MP? i know it can get much worse

> > before it gets better. i have followed 5 ppl with RA on MP and they are

> > all doing better than when they started. i know one woman on ap who

> > avoided all fish oil and other things with D and was in remission within

> > 1 year. has ben fine for a few years now.

> >

> > monique

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ;

It really took a long time to get down to 1.8.I avoided all foods

with D.It was fairly easy as I have Celiac disease and cannot eat

grains,The Celiac caused sensitivity to Dairy so that was out

also.Therefore I only had to avoid eggs and fish.I do not buy any

precessed foods and make everything from scratch so as to be sure I

don't get any gluten.I have a rough time avoiding high light because I

have an orchid greenhouse so I cover up and use No IR sunglasses.They

are only the medium grey ones as I have to be able to see spider mites

that are extremely small.All in all it took over a year to get there.

All people with SD should be taking Zestril to lower the blood pressure

to prevent kidney failure.I had to take it even though I have normally

low bllod pressure of about 90/60.Doc switched me to Olmesartan(Benicar)

40mg a day.I do not take the full dose as per MP. Lynne

Wiesboeck wrote:

> Hi Lynne,

>

> I read with interest your comments on vitamin D,25/25 ratio. You stated

> that you finally

> got it down to 1.8. Did you accomplish this with diet alone or are you

> on Benicar ?

> My wife nne is on AP for RA and doing well after about two

> years.She is avoiding

> vitamin D food as listed at MP but we have not recently checked for

> the D ratio. She is

> avoiding sun and bright light but not the degree list by the MP.

> So, it would be of interest to us what you all tried to limit/reduce the

> D ratio.

> Thanks for your answer.

> and nne

>

> lynneandsantos wrote:

> >

> > Hi ;

> > I also know many who are doing just fabulously on MP.It is not that

> > the vit.D is a problem,it is the ratio of 1,25 to 25 that is the

> > problem.It has to get some sort of balance and the only way is to lower

> > it until the antibiotics can help.I wish I could start now but having an

> > orchid house that is a full time job makes it impossible to avoid high

> > light.I am just careful about eating anything that has it.Just that has

> > helped a lot.My ratio of 1,25 -25 was still 3 times too hight even

> > after 3 months of none in the diet.I got it down to 1.8 and AP suddenly

> > kicked in nicely Lynne SD

> >

> > Sauve wrote:

> >

> > > hi caroline

> > >

> > > what happened with your daughter and MP? i know it can get much worse

> > > before it gets better. i have followed 5 ppl with RA on MP and

> they are

> > > all doing better than when they started. i know one woman on ap who

> > > avoided all fish oil and other things with D and was in remission

> within

> > > 1 year. has ben fine for a few years now.

> > >

> > > monique

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

hi lynne good to know. thanks. my friend with RA was on ap and once she

started avoiding D alone and light she felt soo much better. that is

what convinced her that there was something to MP and now she is doing it.

monique

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

Thanks for your answer. I am sorry to hear all the trouble you have to

put up with.

Hopefully, things will get better soon.

and nne

lynneandsantos wrote:

>

> Hi ;

> It really took a long time to get down to 1.8.I avoided all foods

> with D.It was fairly easy as I have Celiac disease and cannot eat

> grains,The Celiac caused sensitivity to Dairy so that was out

> also.Therefore I only had to avoid eggs and fish.I do not buy any

> precessed foods and make everything from scratch so as to be sure I

> don't get any gluten.I have a rough time avoiding high light because I

> have an orchid greenhouse so I cover up and use No IR sunglasses.They

> are only the medium grey ones as I have to be able to see spider mites

> that are extremely small.All in all it took over a year to get there.

> All people with SD should be taking Zestril to lower the blood pressure

> to prevent kidney failure.I had to take it even though I have normally

> low bllod pressure of about 90/60.Doc switched me to Olmesartan(Benicar)

> 40mg a day.I do not take the full dose as per MP. Lynne

>

> Wiesboeck wrote:

>

> > Hi Lynne,

> >

> > I read with interest your comments on vitamin D,25/25 ratio. You stated

> > that you finally

> > got it down to 1.8. Did you accomplish this with diet alone or are you

> > on Benicar ?

> > My wife nne is on AP for RA and doing well after about two

> > years.She is avoiding

> > vitamin D food as listed at MP but we have not recently checked for

> > the D ratio. She is

> > avoiding sun and bright light but not the degree list by the MP.

> > So, it would be of interest to us what you all tried to limit/reduce the

> > D ratio.

> > Thanks for your answer.

> > and nne

> >

> > lynneandsantos wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi ;

> > > I also know many who are doing just fabulously on MP.It is not that

> > > the vit.D is a problem,it is the ratio of 1,25 to 25 that is the

> > > problem.It has to get some sort of balance and the only way is to

> lower

> > > it until the antibiotics can help.I wish I could start now but

> having an

> > > orchid house that is a full time job makes it impossible to avoid high

> > > light.I am just careful about eating anything that has it.Just

> that has

> > > helped a lot.My ratio of 1,25 -25 was still 3 times too hight even

> > > after 3 months of none in the diet.I got it down to 1.8 and AP

> suddenly

> > > kicked in nicely Lynne SD

> > >

> > > Sauve wrote:

> > >

> > > > hi caroline

> > > >

> > > > what happened with your daughter and MP? i know it can get much

> worse

> > > > before it gets better. i have followed 5 ppl with RA on MP and

> > they are

> > > > all doing better than when they started. i know one woman on ap who

> > > > avoided all fish oil and other things with D and was in remission

> > within

> > > > 1 year. has ben fine for a few years now.

> > > >

> > > > monique

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >