new to the group

[Guest guest]

HI EVERYONE! MY NAME IS AMY AND I HAVE BEEN READING FOR A WHILE

BEFORE I DECIDED TO POST. I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THE DIFFERENT WLS

FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS AND WITH THE WONDERFUL HELP OF THIS GROUP HAVE

DECIDED ON THE DS SURGERY. I AM VERY FORTUNATE TO LIVE WITHIN 45

MINUTES FROM DR. SMITH. IT'S PRETTY AMAZING HOW YOU START THINKING

ABOUT ONE SURGERY AND THE MORE YOU READ AND READ AND READ YOU REALIZE

THAT THERE IS SOMTHING EVEN BETTER OUT THERE. ON JULY 13(I THINK) I

WATCHED 48 HOURS WITH THE FOBI POUCH AND STARTED EXPLORING THE

INTERNET. WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT IT?????????????? I READ ABOUT THE

RNY AND THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT I WANTED - AND PRAISE HEIDI FOR POSTING

HER STORY WITH SO MANY WONDERFUL LINKS - I WALKED INTO THE DS WORLD

AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS. MY STORY IS LIKE MANY - TIRED OF

BEING FAT. MY BMI IS 51 (YUCK) AND I WANT THIS SURGERY!!!!!!!! I

MIGHT START SOUNDING LIKE TJ. YES I AM ALSO LACKING PATIENCE. THANK

YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WONDERFUL TESTIMONIES, THEY TRULY TOUCH ME

EACH AND EVERY ONE.

AMY IN ATLANTA

--- End forwarded message ---

[Guest guest]

> I am considering having this surgery with Dr. and was hoping

> to have someone give me pros and cons. Anyone willing to share

with

> me?

Welcome! I choose the DS because the stomach functions normally just

smaller. The weight loss is greater, and for me that was a big

consideration. Mostly there were things about the RNY and VGB that

were what I consider unacceptable. The VGB has such a high rate of

failure - why bother! and the RNY is just not natural, hooking the

intestines directly to the stomach. If I got a marginal ulcer, in

the land of hot green chili I would just die! it is a quality of

life issue for me. Every person has to make there own choices the RNY

is a good surgery, just not for me.

The DS you must must must take your vitamins, ADEK, calcium every day

for the rest of your life, but the trade in is that you will be thin

and healthy for the rest of your life! Sounds good to me.

[Guest guest]

> I am considering having this surgery with Dr. and was hoping

> to have someone give me pros and cons. Anyone willing to share

with

> me?

Welcome! I choose the DS because the stomach functions normally just

smaller. The weight loss is greater, and for me that was a big

consideration. Mostly there were things about the RNY and VGB that

were what I consider unacceptable. The VGB has such a high rate of

failure - why bother! and the RNY is just not natural, hooking the

intestines directly to the stomach. If I got a marginal ulcer, in

the land of hot green chili I would just die! it is a quality of

life issue for me. Every person has to make there own choices the RNY

is a good surgery, just not for me.

The DS you must must must take your vitamins, ADEK, calcium every day

for the rest of your life, but the trade in is that you will be thin

and healthy for the rest of your life! Sounds good to me.

[Guest guest]

> I am considering having this surgery with Dr. and was hoping

> to have someone give me pros and cons. Anyone willing to share

with

> me?

Welcome! I choose the DS because the stomach functions normally just

smaller. The weight loss is greater, and for me that was a big

consideration. Mostly there were things about the RNY and VGB that

were what I consider unacceptable. The VGB has such a high rate of

failure - why bother! and the RNY is just not natural, hooking the

intestines directly to the stomach. If I got a marginal ulcer, in

the land of hot green chili I would just die! it is a quality of

life issue for me. Every person has to make there own choices the RNY

is a good surgery, just not for me.

The DS you must must must take your vitamins, ADEK, calcium every day

for the rest of your life, but the trade in is that you will be thin

and healthy for the rest of your life! Sounds good to me.

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve:

Someone else will refer you to other sites that you can research but I will tell you a little of how I feel. I am not a new post-op I am 2 years post-op and I have lost 224 lbs and I lost 218 pounds of it at 18 months and the other 6 pounds when I had my tummy tuck and breast reduction.

I had a girlfriend that had the RNY about 10-12 years ago and I was ready to have the same surgery but the more time I spent around her and talked to her the less I liked the new lifestyle she had to learn to live, she had watery bowels all the time and she would be heading for a bathroom immediately after eating and sometimes in the middle of her meal because with the RNY and the other surgeries except for the DS the pyloric valve is removed and what you eat drops directly into your intestines, she had been into her surgeon and also to the emergency room 7-8 times because her stoma became blocked because she didn't remember to chew each and every bit until it was totally mush and they had to a tube down her throat and push the blockage through and the pain she was in seemed to be terrible, she explained it as feeling like she thought a heart attack would and the emergency doctor told her that the description was very accurate.

There are so many things she can't eat anylonger without discomfort like meats and fruits and some veggies. She also has told me that since she had her RNY she has never had a firm bowel movement and because of this she has constant battles with hemorrhoids and fissures both very painful although I am told that the pain from anal fissures is not unlike trying to pass broken glass. Now we have some people in this group that have suffered with both of these but because the bowel movements firm up and happen less often both of these seem to disappear, my friend had surgery about 12 years ago and she still is having problems with these issues and on top of everything else she deals with she is beginning to regain weight.

will be the first to tell you that the DS just like any surgery is no fun and can be life threatening but no more so that this weight we lug around. I now eat what I want whenever I want. The only things I have found that I no longer care for is chicken, spaghetti, (not macaroni or shells, etc.) broccoli, olives and scrambled eggs. I do not have to chew my food to mush. I eat a lot slower or I fill up way to fast and then I am uncomfortable but 2 years out I can eat pretty much a normal meal but it depends upon the day sometimes I eat all day and sometimes I eat very little. I prefer protein especially shellfish and will take protein over sweets each and everytime and not because I have to watch how much sugar I eat which I do but I also eat something sweet everyday as do most of us post-ops but I couldn't stand the taste of sweets for the first 18 months after surgery. I still eat normally every 3-4 hours as it is what my system seems to like and Dr. Anthone and his nutristist say it is the best way to eat anyway. My favorite sweet is canned pineapple in natural juice with cottage cheese and I rarely go a day without some but I also eat candy, (love those Hershey's kisses) but I don't eat them by the bagful anymore now I eat 4-5 and my body says enough eat something with protein. I eat a couple of cookies or a brownie, well you get the idea. I eat very little ice cream as I have become lactose intolerant, so I don't drink milk but I do use cream in my coffee or on my oatmeal and I have never been a huge cheese eater but I do like cream cheese.

I am healthy and now workout at the gym, I can walk for miles and not even breath hard, clothes shopping is still a trip and there are times I still find myself standing in the plus department and my husband will take me by the shoulders and steer me to the regular sizes reminding me that those plus sizes no longer fit. I have gone from a size 56 jeans to a woman's 14-16 or a 34 in men's jeans.

Okay I have babbled long enough there are so many medical reasons why this is a better procedure especially down the road so now I await any and all questions you may have that I can answer. Fire away. If you would rather ask your questions privately then please do, we pretty much cove any and all topics even those that seem weird, yucky, strange or things that you may perceive as to strange, please don't feel that way there aren't any questions regarding this surgery that haven't been asked.

My stats are below my signature as I said anything you want to know just ask.

Huggles,

Tiger Lake

Female

160 lbs. BMI 21.7

224lbs gone

165 1/2 inches gone

6' -- 53yrs young

Dr. Anthone@USC So. Calif.

Open DS

Surgery 1/13/99 384lbs BMI 51.21

Last Visit 4/20/99 315.5 BMI 42.07

7/19/99 274.8 BMI 36.64

9/03/99 259.3 BMI 34.54

10/04/99 252.4 BMI 34.02

10/25/99 231 BMI 32

12/17/99 217.5 BMI 30.2

01/19/00 211 BMI 28

02/20/00 195 BMI 26

04/08/00 182.9 BMI 25

06/07/00 160 BMI 21.7

01/08/01 164.3 BMI 21.7

Hernia repair on 06/07/00 Dr. Anthone

Tummy Tuck & Breast Reduction Dr. Downey

Total Weight Loss! 224.1lbs GONE!

Total inches lost 165!

http://www.duodenalswitch.com (our groups very own web site)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have had this dreaded disease for three years now, but only diagnosed since

last November. You are not alone when you are accused of alcohol being the

cause. Mine is ideopathic. And most of the time my enzymes are not elevated

either. That doesn't mean you are not having an attack. You should check out the

Hopkins site. A lot of interesting information there.

Take Care,

Kim from MI

New to the group

Hi everyone! After 4 years of being diagnosed with acute chronic

pancreatitis, I thought I was alone! The doctors insist that the

cause of my disease is alcohol...I don't drink. I have had my

gallbladder removed (because of stones), an appendectomy, my bile

duct reconstructed, 7 ERCP's, a stent placed in my pancreas to drain

it twice, numerous cat scans, MRCP's, ultrasounds, etc., all to no

avail. My amalyse and lipase are never elevated, but I continue to

have this extreme pain in the upper right quadrant going straight to

my back, along with a fever, vomiting and nausea. It is totally

dibilitating. The doctors will not hospitalize me, and are skeptical

because my enzymes are not elevated, yet they continue to diagnose me

with this disease. I have been to all the best doctors on the east

coast, and no one seems to know what to do with me. My pancreas is

now scarred and damaged, and all the doctors want to do is pump me up

with pain medicine. They are afraid to touch me at this point! I

could really use some feedback from others with the same problems.

[Guest guest]

kittibabies@... wrote:

> Hi everyone! After 4 years of being diagnosed with acute chronic

> pancreatitis, I thought I was alone! The doctors insist that the

> cause of my disease is alcohol...I don't drink. I have had my

> gallbladder removed (because of stones), an appendectomy, my bile

> duct reconstructed, 7 ERCP's, a stent placed in my pancreas to drain

> it twice, numerous cat scans, MRCP's, ultrasounds, etc., all to no

> avail. My amalyse and lipase are never elevated, but I continue to

> have this extreme pain in the upper right quadrant going straight to

> my back, along with a fever, vomiting and nausea. It is totally

> dibilitating. The doctors will not hospitalize me, and are skeptical

> because my enzymes are not elevated, yet they continue to diagnose me

> with this disease. I have been to all the best doctors on the east

> coast, and no one seems to know what to do with me. My pancreas is

> now scarred and damaged, and all the doctors want to do is pump me up

> with pain medicine. They are afraid to touch me at this point! I

> could really use some feedback from others with the same problems.

>

> PANCREATITIS SUPPORT NETWORK

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[Guest guest]

Hi to Amy and Leigh, new members of our group. I, too am recently a new

member, but the other members here are so informative, compassionate, and

I've learned so much, so please keep coming back and ask as many questions as

you need to. I was first diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis in 1997 after

they removed my gallbladder. My gallbladder was full of stones and sludge,

but I was still in pain all the time and my amalyse and lipase were

constantly elevated. After my first ERCP, they finally diagnosed me with CP.

I eventually had 5 more ERCP's after that, in addition to a bile duct

reconstruction. I've been through more doctors than you could ever imagine.

I suffer from fevers, vomiting, diarrhea, low blood pressure, and most of all

pain which radiates to the back. If I can help either of you in any way,

please feel free to e-mail me.

in NJ

[Guest guest]

Greetings Cathrine!

> ... need to know is what can I do

> to help him??

First, recognize he is not his disease. Continue to enjoy your time with

him and try to help him to enjoy life. Focus outward - not on the disorder.

> Does anybody have experiences with

> altenative therapy ...

Skeptic here! Even though I have a very strong personal faith, I prefer

what can be measured (via double-blind studies) and believe it or not,

prayer HAS been measured. Naturally this should make some interesting

research projects!

> ... counselling or ...

A good choice. Most (all?) men do not like to talk about things. I prefer

to sit and sulk when I don't feel well - or am overwhelmed. Not healthy.

A good book for your family is A Delicate Balance: Living Successfully with

Chronic Illness by Milstrey Wells. http://www.amazon.com/ carries it.

It can provide a better understanding about what a Chronic Illness really

means for the family.

But if counseling is available, it certainly is an option. Or getting

together with good friends. But please understand - guys don't talk about

things quite the same way as you gals do! An afternoon sitting around

watching a game, or watching fish float by - WITH a friend is more

beneficial than many other activities. Just being with another guy and not

letting life overwhelm us is the trick. You see, that way we know at a very

deep level that we are not alone. We don't talk it through - we just know

it.

As a side note - my wife often " complains " that when I am with my friends we

stop using words [literally] when we do things together ... she marvels that

we just do lots of work without lots of the conversation she thinks we

should have. That's the type of communication that is so very healthy for

guys.

> ... excercise that they found to be useful

> and supportive?

Range of motion and frequent short exercise. Maintaining activity will

maintain health. The longer your father can stay mobile the stronger he

will be .. and the more his body will be able to help. And it helps to stay

active and enjoy the great outdoors - even if it's just outside the door.

;-)

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

Thank you for such a prompt reply. I belive this site shall

prove very usefull indeed. I hope that in time I will be able to

share som posetive experiences with " beginners " like myself.

Looking forward to talking to you all. Cathrine

> Greetings Cathrine!

>

> > ... need to know is what can I do

> > to help him??

>

> First, recognize he is not his disease. Continue to enjoy your

time with

> him and try to help him to enjoy life. Focus outward - not on the

disorder.

>

> > Does anybody have experiences with

> > altenative therapy ...

>

> Skeptic here! Even though I have a very strong personal faith, I

prefer

> what can be measured (via double-blind studies) and believe it or

not,

> prayer HAS been measured. Naturally this should make some

interesting

> research projects!

>

> > ... counselling or ...

>

> A good choice. Most (all?) men do not like to talk about things.

I prefer

> to sit and sulk when I don't feel well - or am overwhelmed. Not

healthy.

>

> A good book for your family is A Delicate Balance: Living

Successfully with

> Chronic Illness by Milstrey Wells. http://www.amazon.com/

carries it.

> It can provide a better understanding about what a Chronic Illness

really

> means for the family.

>

> But if counseling is available, it certainly is an option. Or

getting

> together with good friends. But please understand - guys don't

talk about

> things quite the same way as you gals do! An afternoon sitting

around

> watching a game, or watching fish float by - WITH a friend is more

> beneficial than many other activities. Just being with another guy

and not

> letting life overwhelm us is the trick. You see, that way we know

at a very

> deep level that we are not alone. We don't talk it through - we

just know

> it.

>

> As a side note - my wife often " complains " that when I am with my

friends we

> stop using words [literally] when we do things together ... she

marvels that

> we just do lots of work without lots of the conversation she thinks

we

> should have. That's the type of communication that is so very

healthy for

> guys.

>

> > ... excercise that they found to be useful

> > and supportive?

>

> Range of motion and frequent short exercise. Maintaining activity

will

> maintain health. The longer your father can stay mobile the

stronger he

> will be .. and the more his body will be able to help. And it

helps to stay

> active and enjoy the great outdoors - even if it's just outside the

door.

> ;-)

>

>

> Regards,

> =jbf=

>

> B. Fisher

[Guest guest]

TO: =jbf=

What wonderful insight into a guy's head!!! First time I've ever heard a male person talk about men not talking!!! Great!!!

BVPOND

[Guest guest]

--

I completely agree with you. There have been so many times I have felt so alone. this group has kept me sane in a way.

Barbara

Just wanted to say I am greatful for the opportunity to be a part of this group. After reading over 29 e-mails concerning this condition, I am somewhat relieved, if that is possible, to know there is hope.

Maybe not hope for a cure, but hope in the fellowship of all of you.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hello and welcome, . Glad you found us, but sorry you had to. This

group is extremely knowledgable - often even more so than doctors. We

understand exactly what each other is going through, and we are always here

to listen. How long have you suffered with CU? Do you have your hives under

control with meds, or are you still trying to find that right combo? What

kind of testing has been done? Can you relate the onset of your hives to

anything - a root canal, surgery, accident, hormonal (menopause, hives worse

during certain times of your cycle), other illness? Ask all the questions

you want, someone here is bound to have an answer. Learn all you can - read

through our archives, they are full of great information, including postings

of medical journal articles. Also check out our website,

http://venus.nerosworld.com/icus/ or at

http://www.angelfire.com/journal/icus/ (same site, just at two locations).

Air hugs,

Jackie

Life is tough, but I'm tougher.

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[Guest guest]

Hello and welcome, . Glad you found us, but sorry you had to. This

group is extremely knowledgable - often even more so than doctors. We

understand exactly what each other is going through, and we are always here

to listen. How long have you suffered with CU? Do you have your hives under

control with meds, or are you still trying to find that right combo? What

kind of testing has been done? Can you relate the onset of your hives to

anything - a root canal, surgery, accident, hormonal (menopause, hives worse

during certain times of your cycle), other illness? Ask all the questions

you want, someone here is bound to have an answer. Learn all you can - read

through our archives, they are full of great information, including postings

of medical journal articles. Also check out our website,

http://venus.nerosworld.com/icus/ or at

http://www.angelfire.com/journal/icus/ (same site, just at two locations).

Air hugs,

Jackie

Life is tough, but I'm tougher.

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

[Guest guest]

Hello and welcome, . Glad you found us, but sorry you had to. This

group is extremely knowledgable - often even more so than doctors. We

understand exactly what each other is going through, and we are always here

to listen. How long have you suffered with CU? Do you have your hives under

control with meds, or are you still trying to find that right combo? What

kind of testing has been done? Can you relate the onset of your hives to

anything - a root canal, surgery, accident, hormonal (menopause, hives worse

during certain times of your cycle), other illness? Ask all the questions

you want, someone here is bound to have an answer. Learn all you can - read

through our archives, they are full of great information, including postings

of medical journal articles. Also check out our website,

http://venus.nerosworld.com/icus/ or at

http://www.angelfire.com/journal/icus/ (same site, just at two locations).

Air hugs,

Jackie

Life is tough, but I'm tougher.

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Welcome to the group.

Are you getting enough protein, water and exercise? These are

necessary to maintain your weight loss. Are your portions still small?

Do you get full when you eat? Do you focus on protein first when you

eat? Do you drink when you eat? Is your pouch transected? Any chance of

a staple line disruption?

Michele (with one L)

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Welcome to the group.

Are you getting enough protein, water and exercise? These are

necessary to maintain your weight loss. Are your portions still small?

Do you get full when you eat? Do you focus on protein first when you

eat? Do you drink when you eat? Is your pouch transected? Any chance of

a staple line disruption?

Michele (with one L)

[Guest guest]

Vickie,

It's not unusual to gain a few pounds back after " bottoming out. " I

wouldn't stress too much about 5#, especially since it sounds like

you're at a very healthy weight. If you keep gaining, you may want to

think about it more, but for now, try not to panic. Easier said than

done, I know ;-)

- Alice A.

rfosset2@... wrote:

>

> Hi

> Ihad VBG in 1988 lost 80 lbs, did fine up until about 3 years ago had

> to have enod to be dilated. Was told then I would have to have it

> fixed sooner or later. March 30,2000 had revision to RNY. I had

> gained back 20 of the 80 lost. This revision was done simply because

> no solid food would go past VBG opening. I was still overweight so

> losing some was a bonus. I lost 30 lbs. Well here I sit depressed

> because I gained 5 lbs and I am not happy about that at all.

> I can eat basically anything I want but just a little amount.

> some things I feel like I can eat too much of.

> Sweets are not a problem for me as I am not a sweet eater plus they

> really cause severe dumping for me with even one bite.

> I keep hearing about the " window of opportunity " . I do not want to

> gain any more wiehgt I would like to lose more.

> Starting wt with VBG was 230 lost 80. Starting wt with revision was

> 178 lost 30. Was down to 148 but now back to 155. What can I do?

> Please, please somebody give me some direction.

> They by passed 45cm which is not very much from what I have read on

> some others.

> sorry to complaiin on my first post.

> Vickie

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vitalady@... writes:

<< I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal about

protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my 108 &

262 again.

>>

,

If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat on a

normal day?

I know every person is different and you have to see what works for you, but

I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is right,

what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

Thanks so much.

Dr Schmidt HUMC

1-10-00 298

10-28-01 178

Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

[Guest guest]

today, for example.

30g protein supp

water

half protein bar & vites

water

30g protein supp

banana & vites

30g protein supp

lunch & vites

's baked potato, cheese & broc

chili

I had about half that potato & a coupla spoonfuls of chili

^^^^^^

then I will still have:

another 30g protein supp

dinner & vites:

pork roast with the trimmings, potato, celery, carrots & no sugar added

applesauce (family for dinner)

But to be honest, I will eat the potatos & cold veggies (not cooked) and one

tiny portion of pork to justify the applesauce! LOL.

30g of protein supp before bed

one more calcium (so I have 2500mg)

Water in between all this, of course.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

Re:New to the Group

> In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> vitalady@... writes:

>

> << I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal

about

> protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my 108

&

> 262 again.

> >>

> ,

> If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat on a

> normal day?

>

> I know every person is different and you have to see what works for you,

but

> I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is right,

> what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

>

> Dr Schmidt HUMC

> 1-10-00 298

> 10-28-01 178

> Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Can you tell us what kind of protein supplements you take? Is this a pill or a

drink?

Thanks.

Helene

Vitalady wrote:

> today, for example.

> 30g protein supp

> water

>

> half protein bar & vites

> water

>

> 30g protein supp

>

> banana & vites

>

> 30g protein supp

>

> lunch & vites

> 's baked potato, cheese & broc

> chili

> I had about half that potato & a coupla spoonfuls of chili

> ^^^^^^

> then I will still have:

> another 30g protein supp

>

> dinner & vites:

> pork roast with the trimmings, potato, celery, carrots & no sugar added

> applesauce (family for dinner)

> But to be honest, I will eat the potatos & cold veggies (not cooked) and one

> tiny portion of pork to justify the applesauce! LOL.

>

> 30g of protein supp before bed

> one more calcium (so I have 2500mg)

>

> Water in between all this, of course.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> www.vitalady.com

>

> For info on PayPal, click this link:

> https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

>

> Re:New to the Group

>

> > In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > vitalady@... writes:

> >

> > << I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal

> about

> > protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my 108

> &

> > 262 again.

> > >>

> > ,

> > If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat on a

> > normal day?

> >

> > I know every person is different and you have to see what works for you,

> but

> > I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is right,

> > what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

> >

> > Thanks so much.

> >

> >

> > Dr Schmidt HUMC

> > 1-10-00 298

> > 10-28-01 178

> > Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Can you tell us what kind of protein supplements you take? Is this a pill or a

drink?

Thanks.

Helene

Vitalady wrote:

> today, for example.

> 30g protein supp

> water

>

> half protein bar & vites

> water

>

> 30g protein supp

>

> banana & vites

>

> 30g protein supp

>

> lunch & vites

> 's baked potato, cheese & broc

> chili

> I had about half that potato & a coupla spoonfuls of chili

> ^^^^^^

> then I will still have:

> another 30g protein supp

>

> dinner & vites:

> pork roast with the trimmings, potato, celery, carrots & no sugar added

> applesauce (family for dinner)

> But to be honest, I will eat the potatos & cold veggies (not cooked) and one

> tiny portion of pork to justify the applesauce! LOL.

>

> 30g of protein supp before bed

> one more calcium (so I have 2500mg)

>

> Water in between all this, of course.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> www.vitalady.com

>

> For info on PayPal, click this link:

> https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

>

> Re:New to the Group

>

> > In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > vitalady@... writes:

> >

> > << I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal

> about

> > protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my 108

> &

> > 262 again.

> > >>

> > ,

> > If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat on a

> > normal day?

> >

> > I know every person is different and you have to see what works for you,

> but

> > I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is right,

> > what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

> >

> > Thanks so much.

> >

> >

> > Dr Schmidt HUMC

> > 1-10-00 298

> > 10-28-01 178

> > Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I use several. Cheramino first thing in the morning. 4T of syrup-type

liquid. Not fun, but fast.

Then mostly ProScore 100 chocolate. Yum. I use a couple of others for my

to-go models. Maybe Extreme Pure Pro grape or ProBlend 55 choc/van (50/50

combo I make up). All of 'em make up with water. I PREFER to have crushed

ice with a blender, but I just do what I gotta do.

I make up bottles in advance with the dry powder. I keep 4 inn each car,

many on the shelf, and use a powder pack, so I always have several 30g

servings with me. I can get water anywhere and shake it up, down the hatch.

The ones I don't like as much can be done in 3 oz of water. LOL!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

Re:New to the Group

> >

> > > In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > > vitalady@... writes:

> > >

> > > << I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal

> > about

> > > protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my

108

> > &

> > > 262 again.

> > > >>

> > > ,

> > > If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat

on a

> > > normal day?

> > >

> > > I know every person is different and you have to see what works for

you,

> > but

> > > I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is

right,

> > > what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr Schmidt HUMC

> > > 1-10-00 298

> > > 10-28-01 178

> > > Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

> > >

> > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > >

> > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I use several. Cheramino first thing in the morning. 4T of syrup-type

liquid. Not fun, but fast.

Then mostly ProScore 100 chocolate. Yum. I use a couple of others for my

to-go models. Maybe Extreme Pure Pro grape or ProBlend 55 choc/van (50/50

combo I make up). All of 'em make up with water. I PREFER to have crushed

ice with a blender, but I just do what I gotta do.

I make up bottles in advance with the dry powder. I keep 4 inn each car,

many on the shelf, and use a powder pack, so I always have several 30g

servings with me. I can get water anywhere and shake it up, down the hatch.

The ones I don't like as much can be done in 3 oz of water. LOL!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

For info on PayPal, click this link:

https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

Re:New to the Group

> >

> > > In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > > vitalady@... writes:

> > >

> > > << I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal

> > about

> > > protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my

108

> > &

> > > 262 again.

> > > >>

> > > ,

> > > If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat

on a

> > > normal day?

> > >

> > > I know every person is different and you have to see what works for

you,

> > but

> > > I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is

right,

> > > what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr Schmidt HUMC

> > > 1-10-00 298

> > > 10-28-01 178

> > > Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

> > >

> > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > >

> > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Michele,

Can you explain why you choose the supplements as your protein source instead of

foods that are high in protein? I'm curious- is it lower in calories, or do you

think it is a better source of protein?

Helene

Vitalady wrote:

> I use several. Cheramino first thing in the morning. 4T of syrup-type

> liquid. Not fun, but fast.

>

> Then mostly ProScore 100 chocolate. Yum. I use a couple of others for my

> to-go models. Maybe Extreme Pure Pro grape or ProBlend 55 choc/van (50/50

> combo I make up). All of 'em make up with water. I PREFER to have crushed

> ice with a blender, but I just do what I gotta do.

>

> I make up bottles in advance with the dry powder. I keep 4 inn each car,

> many on the shelf, and use a powder pack, so I always have several 30g

> servings with me. I can get water anywhere and shake it up, down the hatch.

> The ones I don't like as much can be done in 3 oz of water. LOL!

> Thanks,

>

>

> www.vitalady.com

>

> For info on PayPal, click this link:

> https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com

>

> Re:New to the Group

> > >

> > > > In a message dated 10/28/01 3:13:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > > > vitalady@... writes:

> > > >

> > > > << I'm 7 yrs post-op, still at goal wt. BUT very distal AND very anal

> > > about

> > > > protein & my other supps. I think that's all that stands between my

> 108

> > > &

> > > > 262 again.

> > > > >>

> > > > ,

> > > > If you wouldn't mind, as a 7 year veteran, could you say what you eat

> on a

> > > > normal day?

> > > >

> > > > I know every person is different and you have to see what works for

> you,

> > > but

> > > > I was just wondering, since you obviously are doing whatever it is

> right,

> > > > what you actually consume (food/supplement wise) during the day.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dr Schmidt HUMC

> > > > 1-10-00 298

> > > > 10-28-01 178

> > > > Panniculectomy/Breast Reduction 4-17-01

> > > >

> > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> > > >

> > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >