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Adelle,

We're down to 3 dogs & 11 cats now. I helped start a humane society

in our former county, then volunteered/worked at the shelter. I

still help rescues when I can. Emma Sue, 's English Bulldog, is

probably the only pet out our house who would have a home if we

didn't have them. They're the reason we get out of bed some days.

> Good Lord I hope it is a good year. I have a cat rescue that I run

(something I did to help me with grief management) and I had

distemper hit in November - 10 cats got it and we lost 6. That's

over with now, thank goodness. I know have oodles of rescued cats,

my own personal cats, my dog (a schnauzer/terrier mix), my daughter's

dog (cairn/scottie mix), a parrot, a cockatiel, a guinea pig and a

canary. Now if you get me talking aboutg my own cats, Echo in

particular, then we will be here for months. ;)

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I should have added that the vet said that shepherds sometimes have an hereditary tendancy toward kidney disease. The other thing is that since we didn't have her as a puppy it's possible that she got into something like antifreeze and has had subclinical problems ever since. There just is no way to know. I do know that it isn't something the kennel did and that it isn't anything she got into around here.

Kathy

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

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Kathy,

I understand. Please remember that you've given Angel a wonderful life. Now just love her for the hours you have left with her, then know that letting her go is your last gift to her.

Hugs,

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Oh Kathy - I'm so sorry that you and Denny have to go through this right now. You've had a wonderful life with Angel and when she's gone you'll still have your Angel looking out for you.

Big big hugs,

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Kathy, I'm so sorry about Angel....I'm glad you brought her home for a couple of days.....I was so glad Ponch was at home when he died.....Know prayers are with you and Denny......Luv ya

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Thanks, .

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Kathy,

I understand. Please remember that you've given Angel a wonderful life. Now just love her for the hours you have left with her, then know that letting her go is your last gift to her.

Hugs,

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Thanks, . It's been so short a time. She came to us in Dec of 2000.

I felt so bad for her this AM. Because I got her to eat a little of the special kidney diet food yesterday (it's soft, she usually eats kibble, but can't now) she had an accident overnight. You could tell she felt guilty about it. Then Denny told me it was selfish of me to not have had her put down yesterday, but he didn't see the look on her face at the vets--she wasn't ready. His problem is he can't bear to face her. He cried so much yesterday--and believe me, he isn't a cryer.

Kathy

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Oh Kathy - I'm so sorry that you and Denny have to go through this right now. You've had a wonderful life with Angel and when she's gone you'll still have your Angel looking out for you.

Big big hugs,

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Thanks, Pam. I spent alot of time just sitting with her yesterday.

Kathy

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Oh Kathy, I'm so very sorry. I know how much you loved her and she knows that too. Find joy in the fact that she needed you as much as you needed her and she knows you were there for her and that she was loved tremendously. I wish I could give you a hug right now. I know how very very hard this will be for you. Call me if you need to talk. I'll be here. Thursday morning too.

Christy

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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I'm with you in my thoughts Kathy.

Angel

I just decided to take Angel over this evening. She's needed to go outside alot today and have explosive diarhea. She is also obviously having mouth pain because she stands out there and holds her nose and mouth deep in the snow and just stands there. Now she won't even take a little treat and is having problems moving. So at 645 this evening we're going to the vet.

I was reading about Canine kidney failure and I'm convinced that the vet is right that she's had subclinical chronic renal failure for a long time. She's always had a habit of drinking massive amounts of water. Both vets had checked her for diabetes, but renal failure wasn't considered because she was so young and we hadn't had her near anything toxic. I guess she may have been before we had her.

Denny is actually driving us over, which is a major thing for him. I'll be staying with her while she goes.

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Kathy,

You're on your way as I write this. I'm holding you close in my thoughts. Staying with her will be hard, but you'll be glad you did.

Hugs to you & Denny,

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Thanks, . I'm glad I stayed with her and it was peaceful.

I packed her stuff out of sight because Denny asked if I could do that before he got home today. He's been sobbing for two days now, I've never seen him like this. Even when his Granny died.

I've been crying alot, too--more than I have with any of my dogs in the past. She was such a good dog, and she came into our lives at the right time and was with us only three years.

We won't be getting any more pets. I can't keep up with them and I don't think i could go through this again or watch Denny go through it again.

We have those two cats outside yet, and of course the koi. The koi are pretty and I feel bad if one dies, but not like with a dog. The cats, same thing. They've always been outside cats and the one that's been here the longest is downright nasty. We take good care of them, but it's not the same as Angel.

Kathy

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Kathy,

You're on your way as I write this. I'm holding you close in my thoughts. Staying with her will be hard, but you'll be glad you did.

Hugs to you & Denny,

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Thanks, Christy.

Kathy

Angel

I just decided to take Angel over this evening. She's needed to go outside alot today and have explosive diarhea. She is also obviously having mouth pain because she stands out there and holds her nose and mouth deep in the snow and just stands there. Now she won't even take a little treat and is having problems moving. So at 645 this evening we're going to the vet.

I was reading about Canine kidney failure and I'm convinced that the vet is right that she's had subclinical chronic renal failure for a long time. She's always had a habit of drinking massive amounts of water. Both vets had checked her for diabetes, but renal failure wasn't considered because she was so young and we hadn't had her near anything toxic. I guess she may have been before we had her.

Denny is actually driving us over, which is a major thing for him. I'll be staying with her while she goes.

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Thanks, Christy.

Change of topic, but when is your next wrist being done?

Kathy

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Kathy, I'm so sorry about Angel. I know she has meant so much to you...and obviously also to Denny. Just remember that you made this poor stray dog's last year a wonderful treat for both you and her. My heart goes out both of you.

Hugs,

Jane

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Kathy, I was surprised that Angel had been with you as long as she was. Now I know that she was truly blessed to have found you...and she saw you and Denny through some rough spots in your health. It was fitting that you showed her such infinite love by being worth her to the end.

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Kathy,

You're on your way as I write this. I'm holding you close in my thoughts. Staying with her will be hard, but you'll be glad you did.

Hugs to you & Denny,

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Thanks, Jane.

And for anyone in the group who may eventually meet Denny--he asked me last night if I'd told anyone he'd "cried like a punk-assed bitch" and I told him I told the group that we had both cried. But apparently it is very embarassing for him, so you didn't hear it here.

MEN!

Kathy

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Thanks Jane. It seems like a very short time. But you're right we were all good for each other.

Last night Denny said that he can't even imagine if something happened to me when he acted like this for Angel, and that it must be why he didn't get married for so many years. And I haven't handled it well either. So I guess we're going together, in our sleep , in 50 years, LOL

Kathy

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Kathy,

You're on your way as I write this. I'm holding you close in my thoughts. Staying with her will be hard, but you'll be glad you did.

Hugs to you & Denny,

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OK, I didn't hear a thing.

> Thanks, Jane.

> And for anyone in the group who may eventually meet Denny--he asked

me last night if I'd told anyone he'd " cried like a punk-assed

bitch " and I told him I told the group that we had both cried. But

apparently it is very embarassing for him, so you didn't hear it here.

> MEN!

> Kathy

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> We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation

she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for

her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady

said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We

had to lift her into our car to go home.

> We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from

the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood

work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the

labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her

IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with

the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and

Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the

charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

> They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be

well enough to spend a day or two with us.

> Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her

home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know

that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by

the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come

home for awhile.

> Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her

cremated and burying her on our property.

> This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one,

and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time

we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I

guess I don't get to say when she goes.

> I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

> I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that

you'll all understand.

> Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset

he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

> Kathy

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Kathy,

I know what Denny feels. & I hurt so much when we lose a pet, I

don't see how either of us could go on if we lost the other. I've

decided that we have to die together; we just can't survive apart. I

just hope we have a long,long time left together.

> Thanks Jane. It seems like a very short time. But you're right

we were all good for each other.

> Last night Denny said that he can't even imagine if something

happened to me when he acted like this for Angel, and that it must be

why he didn't get married for so many years. And I haven't handled

it well either. So I guess we're going together, in our sleep , in

50 years, LOL

> Kathy

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> Kathy,

> You're on your way as I write this. I'm holding you

close in my thoughts. Staying with her will be hard, but you'll be

glad you did.

> Hugs to you & Denny,

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Let's hope it is!

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Kathy,

You're on your way as I write this. I'm holding you close in my thoughts. Staying with her will be hard, but you'll be glad you did.

Hugs to you & Denny,

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So do I. It took me 43 years to find the right man, LOL

Kathy

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Feb 18. It's already scheduled.

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

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Boy Cuz, I really hope and pray that these work for you.....My neuro said I need both wrists done, but I told him a flat no.....no more surgeries on nerves....Luv ya

Angel

We have to have Angel put to sleep. Before we went on vacation she'd had the yeast infection in her ear and we were blaming that for her poor appetite and weight loss. When I picked her up the lady said she wasn't eating well and her ear was bothering her again. We had to lift her into our car to go home.

We took her to the vet this AM, still hoping it was all from the ear thing. The vet thought she smelled uremic and did blood work. She's been staggering all day. While we were waiting for the labs the vet said that if it was kidney we might be able to give her IV's and get the kidney's working right again. Then she came in with the bloodwork. Sigh. Her kidneys are completely shut down. BUN and Creatinine off the charts Sodium and cloride low, Phosphates off the charts. She's anemic and not making any more red blood cells.

They gave her a liter of fluid under the skin so she could be well enough to spend a day or two with us.

Denny was sobbing. He doesn't understand how I could bring her home But I needed a couple of days with her. And I needed to know that her last few days weren't at the kennel. And I could tell by the look on her face that she knows she's dying and wanted to come home for awhile.

Weds evening we're having her put down. I'm having her cremated and burying her on our property.

This is the last dog I'll ever have. I can't keep up with one, and can't go through this again. She came into our lives at a time we really needed her, and I'm not ready for her to be leaving, but I guess I don't get to say when she goes.

I'm falling apart here, it hurts so bad.

I know that most of us have critters on this list, and that you'll all understand.

Denny took the rest of the day off work, so you know how upset he is. He's plowing the snow, crying and chain smoking.

KathyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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