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Patients must fully research any medication they're thinking of taking or any

medication their doctor recommends. Unlike meds for cancer, high blood

pressure, diabetes, who's actions are known and widely accepted as medical fact;

antidepressants are only " thought " to " balance brain chemistry " and " chemical

imbalance is only " thought " to be the cause of depression and anxiety. At this

point, it is still medical theory. Yes, all drugs have potential side effects,

but some have an inordinately high rate of them. The WHO, World Health

Organization, gets twice as many complaints about SSRIs than any other class of

drug in its history. If you look, you'll find countless web sites devoted to

problems with these types of drugs and thousands of stories from unhappy users.

Yes, they may help some, but they're harming others. What amount of suffering

is justified, I wonder.

Deb

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I have been on and off antidepressants for 22 years. I was in a bad car

accident when I was seven and to this day, I still have a large dent in the

middle of my skull. They can all have their pros and cons. I have been on

Celexa for two years now. I went on it because I was on Depo Provera and it

caused major depression. My only real complaint about it is the fact that it

is very hard to stop taking. I have never had a problem going off

antidepressants, but when I tried to get off of the Celexa, I ended up in

the ER with an IV 2 days in a row. A week had passed since my last pill, so

none of us put two and two together. One day, I decided to research

withdrawl symptoms caused by Celexa online.sure enough, that was it. The

term vertigo doesn't even do justice for what I felt! My research told me

that it can take up to 9 months to wean off this medication! Makes me wonder

what I'm putting in my body! I've managed to get down to 20mg from 80 mg, so

hopefully I can get rid of it soon. Since I am no longer on Depo, my moods

are much more stable and I don't feel I need the Celexa at this point.

Just my own experience with SSRI drugs.

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> Patients must fully research any medication they're thinking of taking or

any medication their doctor recommends. Unlike meds for cancer, high blood

pressure, diabetes, who's actions are known and widely accepted as medical

fact; antidepressants are only " thought " to " balance brain chemistry " and

" chemical imbalance is only " thought " to be the cause of depression and

anxiety. At this point, it is still medical theory. Yes, all drugs have

potential side effects, but some have an inordinately high rate of them.

The WHO, World Health Organization, gets twice as many complaints about

SSRIs than any other class of drug in its history. If you look, you'll find

countless web sites devoted to problems with these types of drugs and

thousands of stories from unhappy users. Yes, they may help some, but

they're harming others. What amount of suffering is justified, I wonder.

> Deb

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Max,

I found your comments about the correlation between diabetes and

depression interesting. I also sensed from your comments that

depression brought on by or linked to diabetes may not be easily

treatable with anti-depression medication. If my understanding is

correct, that's good information. I am taking too many meds as is.

VR

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I have read in many places that there is a " correlation " between diabetes

and depression. My understanding is that it is a chicken/egg situation

wherein no one knows for certain which comes first. I did read one study

(which I cannot cite) that showed that depression can lead type II onset by

as much as 10 years.

Self-care in depression can be much greater than pharmaceutical

intervention, in my experience, with meditation and one-on-one counselling

being of equal or even greater value than meds.

Also in my experience, I found St. 's Wort to be an effective medication

alternative.

All the best to everyone in dealing with this demon.

>I found your comments about the correlation between diabetes and

>depression interesting. I also sensed from your comments that

>depression brought on by or linked to diabetes may not be easily

>treatable with anti-depression medication. If my understanding is

>correct, that's good information. I am taking too many meds as is.

~* R . *~

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Be careful with St. 's Wort one of its side effects is high blood

pressure.

sharon

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I have read in many places that there is a " correlation " between diabetes

and depression. My understanding is that it is a chicken/egg situation

wherein no one knows for certain which comes first. I did read one study

(which I cannot cite) that showed that depression can lead type II onset by

as much as 10 years.

Self-care in depression can be much greater than pharmaceutical

intervention, in my experience, with meditation and one-on-one counselling

being of equal or even greater value than meds.

Also in my experience, I found St. 's Wort to be an effective medication

alternative.

All the best to everyone in dealing with this demon.

>I found your comments about the correlation between diabetes and

>depression interesting. I also sensed from your comments that

>depression brought on by or linked to diabetes may not be easily

>treatable with anti-depression medication. If my understanding is

>correct, that's good information. I am taking too many meds as is.

~* R . *~

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In a message dated 3/3/2005 10:02:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melmac2525@... writes:

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>Also about depression...there can be a component that is best treated by

psychotherapy, >and a component that needs medication. Very severe depressions

usually need >medication, especially if there are signs that it's a physical

depression...lethargy, extra >sleeping, etc.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I do both medications and therapy. Therapy is awful and wonderful sometimes

all in the same session. It's also fabulously expensive and from time to time

I wonder why I'm doing it as I could use that money for something else, but I

try to remind myself that I'm worth it, even on the days I don't think I am.

I tried just therapy at first - didn't want to be so weak as to need meds -

but I didn't get any better and after 6 months went to my current shrink for

both meds and therapy.

Stacey

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> Can an anti-depressant make you more depressed?

sky

One of the side effects on most anti-depressants is depression. It always made

me wonder what the heck the pill was for if it could make you depressed - sort

of an oxymoron.

Barb in NH

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In a message dated 3/3/2005 12:11:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

letoile@... writes:

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>Then a friend pointed me to a book called

>Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy. And I learned a small but very

>important thing. I learned how my thinking contributed to depression. It

>was a huge breakthrough for me. I have been off depression meds for many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I still have this book - I bought it 20 years ago. I knew then that there

was something wrong with me, and even before then, but all I ever did was buy

books then get more depressed because they didn't cure me. I pulled it off

the

shelf a few years ago when the major blackness started, and while I can't say

that I'm very good at following directions in a book, it still resonates all

these years later.

Stacey

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I thought the name of that book sounded familiar - just did not think that far

back in my mind. I am going to have to go through some of my cases of books and

see if I still have it - if not, guess it is time to buy it again.

Barb in NH

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At 07:10 PM 3/3/05, Barb M wrote:

> One of the side effects on most anti-depressants is depression. It

> always made me wonder what the heck the pill was for if it could make

> you depressed - sort of an oxymoron.

well, heck! I'll wait a bit and see if anything gets better...or worse.

sky

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