Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

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In a message dated 11/3/2004 1:09:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

palmbeachdoula@... writes:

I just found out yesterday I Have diabetes. My fasting glucose was 122. I

Am overwieght and my doctor put me on a 1800 calorie diet. he told me if I

lose even 20 lbs the diabetes will go away.

Hi Ruth,

Until recently, anyone with a fasting bg (blood glucose) of 126 or less was

not considered having diabetes.

I have known several people, my hubby included, to have a high reading at the

doctor's office, yet they have been tested several times since and they do

not have diabetes. I'm not saying they were cured of diabetes, just that

sometimes things other than diabetes can cause a high reading. If you have

access

to a monitor, you need to check your bg's fasting and then two hours after a

meal. Also, your doctor needs to do an A1c test to determine if you have

diabetes. The A1c test is a blood test that shows how your bg's have been

running

for the past 3 months.

Losing weight and eating health are two of the best things you can do for

yourself. If you have diabetes, it will help you to control it better.

A good website is the Joslin Diabetes Center. Here is the link.

http://www.joslin.org/education/beginnerguide.shtml

hugs

Eunice

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In a message dated 11/3/2004 2:12:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shados@... writes:

Honestly, dont go for the whole " low carb " craze. It is just overprocessed

crap food that has little or no nutrional value.

Hi Angelia,

You are right, most of the " low carb " stuff is overprocessed " nothing " . When

I eat low carb, it is going to be real foods, veggies, salads, protein,

rather than stuff from a box. I would rather have one bite of a real candy bar,

than a whole package of the sugar-free low carb. There are some good " low carb "

foods in boxes. Just have to read labels.

hugs

Eunice

[Guest guest]

new here:) and have a couple questions

I am wondering what kinds of advice anyone has and if eating right will

actually make this go away or is it harder than that? a couple weeks ago

I

Started working with a new diet anyway to lose weight anyway, but I

Just wondered

if this will actually go away or is it something ill always have even

if I

lose the excess weight.

[, Bruce] Once a diabetic, always a diabetic. Your diabetes may

be well-controlled, or even in remission, but you will always be a

diabetic.

im also lookingfor any tips you ave on how you manage food, eating,

cravings

etc... this is all new to me and im kindof depressed about it as I Have

alot

of other stuff going on right now (not physically) that is making this

more

of a burdon on me than if I didnt have all thother stuff going on)

[, Bruce]

Two books that will help: DR. BERNSTEIN'S DIABETES SOLUTION and

DIABETES FOR DUMMIES.

See if your county department of health or the nearest large hospital

offer a Diabetes Education class.

Get yourself a blood sugar monitor and test first thing in the morning,

last thing at night, and two hours after each meal. (Consult your

insurance about this; they may provide one for free and/or pay for the

supplies. If not, the machine and supplies are usually deductable as a

health expense from your income tax.)

You probably know that you can't have sweets. You should also cut out

starches. White rice, bread, pasta, and potatoes are not your friends.

If you must eat bread, eat whole-grain bread. Some of us can eat brown

rice, but many find that even that raises their blood sugar too much.

There are low-carb pastas on the market; they vary greatly in quality.

The best I've found is CarbFit, a Hain product. Unileaver/Bestfoods has

come out with a line of low-carb sauces, dressings, and the like:

WishBone dressing, Skippy peanut butter, Lawrey's sauces & marinades,

Ragu pasta sauces, etc. are all available in versions sweetened with

Splenda now under the name of 'Carb Options'.

Try to eat as many low-starch vegetables as you can; cruciates are

especially good. Lean meats are good, but avoid fried foods. The

secret is to get your body to start depending on proteins and fats for

energy rather than carbohydrates.

Try to integrate exercise into your daily routine as much as you can. I

ride my bicycle almost everywhere, for example. Sometimes it is two or

three days between my getting my car out. (Not only is this great

exercise, but it saves money--have you seen gas prices these days?)

thanks! IM glad I found somewhere to get some support

Ruth kraft CLD ,CD, FCCE

mother of emma & jacob

Doula and photographer_ www.palmbeachdoula.com_

( http://www.palmbeachdoula.com/)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/3/2004 1:09:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

palmbeachdoula@... writes:

I just found out yesterday I Have diabetes. My fasting glucose was 122.

I

Am overweight and my doctor put me on a 1800 calorie diet. he told me if I

lose even 20 lbs the diabetes will go away.

Greetings there!

Welcome to one of the most informitive groups I am a member of. I love it

here. Always a new way to look at something.

I am a 26 year old wife and mother to a 5 year old. I live on a small

farm, with dogs, cows, chickens, and a mouser kitty. I am an avid gardener,

canning and processing much of what I grow.

I have been called a " crunchy hippy " type, though I eat meat, and am not

100% organic. I dont see myself as a hippy.. just a free spirit type that

likes to srive for self suffency.

I was diagnosed last year about this time, a month after being Married to

the man of my dreams (we have our days for sure...lol) I didnt want to be a

burden on him and let him know that he can get out... LOL... he was hurt

that I would even say something like that.

I did a revamp on mylifestyle. More veggies, lots of stir fries with olive

or sesame oil, less bread and butter, less potatoes. I did not completely

cut out potatoes, just cut back. I eat mostly whole grains, even pastas. I

eat whole wheat bread (the first ingredient on the bread should be whole

wheat flour) in the winter time, I bake most of the breads here in the

house. There are days when I am completely lazy and refuse though.

Dont let anyone scare you into saying that you " cant " eat anything. I eat

whatever I want, in complete moderation. IF that means that I get ONE bite,

I can still have it. I CHOOSE to eat the way that I do, in order to be

healthy. I can CHOOSE to eat foods that will make me feel sick and

sluggish, I can CHOOSE to not go to the gym or go for walks for my

excersize. I will just have to " deal " with the consequenses. I for one do

not wish to " deal " and would like to have a happy, full, productive life. I

dont want to cheat my daughter, my husband and even myself out of one bit of

life.

Honestly, dont go for the whole " low carb " craze. It is just overprocessed

crap food that has little or no nutrional value. Eat REAL foods, things

that are full of nutrients. Whole grains, raw or lightly steamed or sauted

veggies, lean protiens (yes even tofu), soy beans....

I feel GREAT when I am eating correctly and working out like I should be.

Dont make excuses for not excersizing. Saying " im too fat " is not an

option. If you can get out there and walk for 10 min, it is a start. Start

at 10 min on week, up it to 15 the next. Do 3 seperate walks a day. You

WILL feel better. If you cant walk, try to swim, or one of those amazing

water areobic classes. I feel wonderful after swimming 15 laps. I am

working up to 30. I also do Yoga. There is a GREAT video called Yoga for

Round People. It is great for those that dont feel they can do it. Though,

Yoga isnt for everyone.

Just remember, NO ONE but you can figure out what you can or cant eat. Test

your blood sugar after eating something. take baby steps. It is a

lifestyle change, look at it as a new lease on life. Get healthy for YOU.

I can assure you that you will feel better!

Angelia in OR who refuses to let this disease control me, I control it!

[Guest guest]

It is perfectly possible to do a low-carb diet without using a lot of the 'low

carb' versions of packaged/processed foods. Also, 'low carb' is not the same

thing as Atkins, and even if one is doing Atkins, there is more to it than Phase

1 (critics of Atkins talk as though the Induction phase was all there was to it,

which is quite untrue and most unfair; if you are going to criticize

Atkins---and there is lots of room for criticism!--then criticize the whole

program.)

And I wouldn't call it a 'craze'. Dr. Banting, the discoverer of insulin,

recommended a low-carb diet for diabetics 100 years ago. Many indigenous

cultures have traditionally followed a low-carb diet, and members of those

cultures who have kept the traditional diet are far healthier than those who

have taken up eating the White Man's way.

Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

Honestly, dont go for the whole " low carb " craze. It is just overprocessed

crap food that has little or no nutrional value. Eat REAL foods, things

that are full of nutrients. Whole grains, raw or lightly steamed or sauted

veggies, lean protiens (yes even tofu), soy beans....

[Guest guest]

Angelia - I was pretty offended by your statement of: Honestly, dont go for

the whole " low carb " craze. It is just overprocessed

crap food that has little or no nutrional value.

I have been eating low carb since my diagnosis over 2 years ago and it has kept

me off of all meds so far. I don't eat a lot of overprocessed " crap food "

either.

I think you need to find a little softer and gentler way of expressing your

opinions to others. Remember, we are all different and what works for you may

not work for the next person. Low carb works just fine for me.

Carole

Boston Terrier Rescue of Las Vegas

BTCSouthernNevada.com

Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

Honestly, dont go for the whole " low carb " craze. It is just overprocessed

crap food that has little or no nutrional value. Eat REAL foods, things

that are full of nutrients. Whole grains, raw or lightly steamed or sauted

veggies, lean protiens (yes even tofu), soy beans....

[Guest guest]

I believe you! LOL

I was trying to get across that the " low carb " products out there are not

necessarily healthy for you. there are so many people in the world that

rely on over processed boxed foods, and wonder why they are so unhealthy.

I am a firm advocate of REAL food. Such as lean meats, good for you fats,

whole grains (yes in complete moderation) and lots of low starch veggies.

All foods can be eaten in moderation. yes... even potatoes! though, some

people cannot look at potatoes without the blood sugar going up. I

understand that.

I will not criticize Atkins, I don't " agree " with many of the practices, but

each person can make an informed decision on how and what they are going to

eat. I do not choose to be on Atkins. For some, it is the only way to

continue to be healthy.

Our society is way too full of over processed empty carbs and foods. White

bread, piles of taters, foods that have no nutritional value beyond the

cardboard box they come in. That is what I have an issue with.

You can be low carb and not eat one bit of processed food. In fact, if

people would do this, I would be happier with the whole " Atkins " thing.

Lots of veggies, lean meat, and a few whole grains. All things our body

needs to draw nutrients and vitamins from.

Angelia in OR

Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

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> Honestly, dont go for the whole " low carb " craze. It is just

overprocessed

> crap food that has little or no nutrional value. Eat REAL foods, things

> that are full of nutrients. Whole grains, raw or lightly steamed or

sauted

> veggies, lean protiens (yes even tofu), soy beans....

[Guest guest]

I certainly agree with that. I try not to use the packaged 'low carb' foods,

but sometimes they can be very useful. The Carb Options salad dressings for

example, or (when my pasta machine was broken and the parts on backorder)

CarbFit low-carb pasta.

Re: Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

Our society is way too full of over processed empty carbs and foods. White

bread, piles of taters, foods that have no nutritional value beyond the

cardboard box they come in. That is what I have an issue with.

You can be low carb and not eat one bit of processed food. In fact, if

people would do this, I would be happier with the whole " Atkins " thing.

Lots of veggies, lean meat, and a few whole grains. All things our body

needs to draw nutrients and vitamins from.

Angelia in OR

[Guest guest]

I apologize for the way that it came off... wasn't meaning it that way. Was

referring to the boxed over processed crap that people seem to rely on

mostly, and is as good for you as the box it comes it.

I am all for Low carb using real whole foods. Veggies, lean meats, soy,

even a few whole grains here and there.

Should have been more " clear " on that...

Angelia in OR

Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

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> Honestly, dont go for the whole " low carb " craze. It is just

overprocessed

> crap food that has little or no nutrional value. Eat REAL foods, things

> that are full of nutrients. Whole grains, raw or lightly steamed or

sauted

> veggies, lean protiens (yes even tofu), soy beans....

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[Guest guest]

I prefer to watch my portion size, and only eat a half a cup or whatever of

regular food, than worry about paying overtly high prices for " pasta " that

tastes like a box... LOL... (yes I have tried it, and that's how it tastes

to me)

I would love to get a pasta machine, to make pasta with bean and whole grain

flours. I have been looking at the attachments for my Kitchen Aide stand

mixer.

But, to each their own... If it works for you, and your body feels good

after eating it, then eat it. I will not condemn anyone for the way they

eat. Though it sounds like it sometimes, that is not what I am meaning.

My big deal, as stated before, is that people rely on too many over

processed unreal foods to feed their families. Empty calories for the most

part. And we wonder why disease is running rampant in our young people?

(yes I am considered a young people)

Angelia in OR

Re: Re: new here:) and have a couple questions

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> Our society is way too full of over processed empty carbs and foods.

White

> bread, piles of taters, foods that have no nutritional value beyond the

> cardboard box they come in. That is what I have an issue with.

> You can be low carb and not eat one bit of processed food. In fact, if

> people would do this, I would be happier with the whole " Atkins " thing.

> Lots of veggies, lean meat, and a few whole grains. All things our body

> needs to draw nutrients and vitamins from.

>

> Angelia in OR

[Guest guest]

Bruce

Speaking of packaged " low carb " foods, has anyone discovered Dream

Fields pasta and spaghetti. It's delicious and says something

like " 5 carbs " on the front of the package. Works great for a few

hours, but on the actual nutrition label it says 42 carbs. There it

was, in the middle of the night. Woke me up with an uncomfortable

stomach. Costs 2 to 3 times as much as a box of regular spaghetti,

too.

Janie

> I certainly agree with that. I try not to use the packaged 'low

carb' foods, but sometimes they can be very useful. The Carb Options

salad dressings for example, or (when my pasta machine was broken and

the parts on backorder) CarbFit low-carb pasta.

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[Guest guest]

That was my point. Most of the low carb products are there to make " normal "

dieters not feel guilty for eating that whole bag of CRAP. LOL

I watched the " Low carb And Loving It " show on food network yesterday, and

the food looked AMAZING. It wasn't all Meat and cheese and fat. He made

soy flour tortillas in the oven, Tequila chicken, chili and even sangria.

Made a yummy looking no bake lime cheesecake too.

Nothing that he made was a preprocessed boxed food. Everything was REAL

food, and completely healthy food. He even pointed out the nutrition of the

bell peppers he was using. (I hate bell peppers)

I am happy that people have found something that works for them. And if

you are not cutting out foods that are full of nutrients for boxed

nothingness foods, all the more better. =)

Angelia in OR who is sick today

----- Original Message -----

From: " Aazari "

> Otherwise, the low carb options are pretty much ways to make " normal "

> dieters feel okay with scarfing half the bag of chips in a sitting.

Afterall

> it's low carb, so it can't possibly be contributing to their weight gain,

> right??

>

> Sad but true, many people don't read the labels on ANYTHING they eat. >

> Aazari

[Guest guest]

That's what people were doing with the lo-fat craze too--eating a whole bag of

cookies or other product and wondering why they didn't loose any weight---people

love to point fingers at everyone but themselves. Hmmm...now, did anyone point

a gun to your head and say " eat the whole bag--go on? " Ha ha.

I saw the lo carb program too...makes me drool.....

Fawnee

Angelia R wrote:

That was my point. Most of the low carb products are there to make " normal "

dieters not feel guilty for eating that whole bag of CRAP. LOL

I watched the " Low carb And Loving It " show on food network

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[Guest guest]

There is the calorie commando guy too. I think what he is doing is GREAT!

everything that he cooks looks soooo good!

Angelia in OR who is addicted to food shows (always have been started with

Child when I was a kid)

----- Original Message -----

From: " Maureen Chesley "

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> That's what people were doing with the lo-fat craze too--eating a whole

bag of cookies or other product and wondering why they didn't loose any

weight---people love to point fingers at everyone but themselves.

Hmmm...now, did anyone point a gun to your head and say " eat the whole

bag--go on? " Ha ha.

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> I saw the lo carb program too...makes me drool.....

>

> Fawnee

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> Angelia R wrote:

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> That was my point. Most of the low carb products are there to make

" normal "

> dieters not feel guilty for eating that whole bag of CRAP. LOL

> I watched the " Low carb And Loving It " show on food network