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In Oct I will be having surgery. They told me to quit taking asprin, vit e

and any herbal supplements 6 weeks before the surgery. The asprin I

understand. So I told them about all the other stuff I take, they said I

should quit taking all but the mult vitamin as they have canceled surgeries

over this. Anyone ever heard of that?

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ty for the input, will probably just follow doctors orders about this, just

was wondering more of a " why do i have to quit taking them " explanation then

the woman could give me.

In a message dated 8/22/01 9:29:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lambart@...

writes:

> Hi ,

> This is all I could find regarding your question

>

> Dietary Supplements and Surgery May Not Mix

> The American Society of Anesthesiologists (ASA) urges people who are

> scheduled for surgery to tell their health care providers about any herbs

> they are taking. For example,

> St. s wort can prolong the effects of some narcotic drugs and

> anesthetics.

> Ginkgo biloba and feverfew may reduce the blood's ability to clot.

> Ginseng may be associated with high blood pressure and rapid heart beat.

> Patients should stop taking these supplements 2 to 3 weeks before surgery.

> If that's not possible, show your doctor what you've been taking-including

> the original container.

> Source: The American Society of Anesthesiologists

> Published on: 11/02/2000 Updated on: 11/09/2000

>

> Dianne

>

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Yes, ty for information :-)

In a message dated 8/22/01 9:40:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

gr8rswis@... writes:

> Some of the supplements may therapeutically thin your blood and most of the

> time, as with aspirin, it is a good thing (helps prevent stroke,

> etc.). HOWEVER, if you are going to have surgery you will need the strong

> clotting factor to help keep you from bleeding profusely during and/or

> after the surgery and that is why they are suggesting that you stop all

> supplements for a few weeks before. The Multi-vitamin is probably safe

but

> even high levels of vit C and E alone (additional--which is how most of

> us take them) can cause depleted platelets.

>

> Everyone reacts differently to supplements and anesthesia and clotting

> drugs and the doctors need to have as " even " a playing field as possible

to

> be able to administer drugs or whatever to make your surgery go well, if

> you had different dietary supplements in your blood at the time they are

> administering other drugs they might react the wrong way and increase

> bleeding or increase clotting to the point that they put you in danger.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

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HEADLINE:

Surgery, under the influence of herbs.

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SYNOPSIS:

More than half of patients about to undergo surgery responded to a survey

with statements

that they had taken herbal medicines, alternative medicines, or vitamins

during the days preceding

their surgery. These substances could adversely affect the anesthesia they

would be receiving and

their recovery.

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SOURCE:

O'Neil J. Surgery, under the influence of herbs. New York Times 2000 April 4

: F8 (col. 5).

ARTICLE MENTIONS:

Author Carol Norred, a nurse and doctoral student at the University of

Colorado Health Science

Center's Department of Anesthesiology in Denver.

JOURNAL ARTICLE CITATION:

Journal of the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists 2000 February.

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yes me too...thats why i was surprised and was asking...guess its not all

that uncommon though :-)

In a message dated 8/22/01 12:31:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kari@...

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> I have only heard of stopping aspirin cause of the non-clotting factor.

> Could it be cause the herbal supplements work and they know they could

> interfere with the surgery??? Not that they don't want you to take them,

but

> maybe they will cause different reactions to the surgery?? Interesting...

> Maybe knows this one.

>

> Kari

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In Oct I will be having surgery. They told me to quit taking asprin, vit e and any herbal supplements 6 weeks before the surgery. The asprin I understand. So I told them about all the other stuff I take, they said I should quit taking all but the mult vitamin as they have canceled surgeries over this. Anyone ever heard of that?

I have only heard of stopping aspirin cause of the non-clotting factor. Could it be cause the herbal supplements work and they know they could interfere with the surgery??? Not that they don't want you to take them, but maybe they will cause different reactions to the surgery?? Interesting... Maybe knows this one.

Kari

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St. s wort can prolong the effects of some narcotic drugs andanesthetics.Ginkgo biloba and feverfew may reduce the blood's ability to clot.Ginseng may be associated with high blood pressure and rapid heart beat.Patients should stop taking these supplements 2 to 3 weeks before surgery.

Ah ha! This is what I thought, . Our herbs DO have an affect in us, huh??

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>In Oct I will be having surgery. They told me to quit taking asprin, vit e

>and any herbal supplements 6 weeks before the surgery. The asprin I

>understand. So I told them about all the other stuff I take, they said I

>should quit taking all but the mult vitamin as they have canceled surgeries

>over this. Anyone ever heard of that?

Some of the supplements may therapeutically thin your blood and most of the

time, as with aspirin, it is a good thing (helps prevent stroke,

etc.). HOWEVER, if you are going to have surgery you will need the strong

clotting factor to help keep you from bleeding profusely during and/or

after the surgery and that is why they are suggesting that you stop all

supplements for a few weeks before. The Multi-vitamin is probably safe but

even high levels of vit C and E alone (additional--which is how most of

us take them) can cause depleted platelets.

Everyone reacts differently to supplements and anesthesia and clotting

drugs and the doctors need to have as " even " a playing field as possible to

be able to administer drugs or whatever to make your surgery go well, if

you had different dietary supplements in your blood at the time they are

administering other drugs they might react the wrong way and increase

bleeding or increase clotting to the point that they put you in danger.

Hope this helps.

Sharyl.

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Sharyl Mayhew gr8rswis@...

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  • 3 years later...

Susie...You will have a prayer from N.J....hang in there girl,wishing you

all the best....njjeannie

Surgery

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> Hi All, I am having surgery next Wednesday, Jan 26, to have the mass

> in my neck removed. It has doubled in size this past year and changed

> consistancy to borderline cancer so we thought it best to have it out

> before it does any real damage. It now goes from the base of my skull

> to my chest bone so is really quite large and is growing in and not

> out, that is it doesn't look that big from outside appearances.

> Anyway Wednesday is the DATE! There are a lot of things that could

> go wrong in the area they will be working on but hopefully they can

> just lift it out without too much problems. As the surgeon said, we

> don't want you to come out of surgery worse off then when you went

> in. If you pray, please keep me in your prayers on Wednesday - if

> you don't pray, then please send good thoughts my way. Thanks, Susieq

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  • 3 weeks later...

Susie,

Will say some prayers for you and I know a lady who had a lump

removed and they did some type of iodine treatment--and she is doing

real well! Did your dr. say anything about that?

Sending you well wishes!

BIG HUGS!

Sue Me

I saw the dr. yesterday for post operation follow-up and the biopsy

> came back with cancer.

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Sandy, I go back in a month and if the swelling has gone they will do a CT scan.

Then I will continue to have a scan every six months for a couple of years. If

nothing shows up in three years then I will continue to have a scan once a year.

So it is just a wait and see thing. The surgeon said he got all he could see

with the eye but there could be some cancer cells that he couldn't see. I feel

the odds are in my favor and so trying to look at the glass being 2/3's full

rather then 1/3 empty. It was a shock to hear but with the help of all the

prayers I have received I am doing good (mentally and physically). I am getting

stronger every day and I thank God, all you good people, for that - SusieQ

sandy grooms wrote:Susie,

That is what friends do for one another. When is it that you find out that they

got all the cancer?

Still praying, Sandy

Re: Re: Surgery

Jen, , Sandy, Donna, , , , and all that have been, and are,

praying for me. I really appreciate the prayers and warm wishes. You are a

great bunch of people that are always there for whoever needs it. Thank you,

SusieQ

Oh SusieQ, you've been through too much already. I'm sorry this was added to

your load. You have my thoughts and prayer. Love you, Donna - PLS-NC

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