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I've never heard of it either. When we put an iron filter on our well pump,

they tried to sell us a water purifying system also--removes chlorine and

such. Since we don't have city water, there is no chlorine! That said, we

still

by natural spring water for drinking.

I don't know, but my guess would be this Pi system is a wallet cleanser.

Those magic ceramic balls that polish the water (as the description says) sound

more like snake oil to me!

Jill

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Martha,

I think that your diagnosis is correct. A pi water filtration system will

clean your wallet, not your insides. While the claim that pi water " cured

him completely of all arthritis " may be part of the sales pitch of your

" gentlemen, " it is unlikely to be true.

I have never run across any online information that links arthritis to any

type of water. However, a number of web pages state that drinking lots of

water, like lots exercise, is good for arthritis and other medical conditions.

This brings up the issue of " pi water. " A www.google.com search on " pi

water " (in quotation marks) brings up 1,510 pages.

The page http://www.mind.net/aware/piwater.htm states: " Pi water was

discovered through 30 years of analytical research of bio-systems by Dr.

Yamashita of Nagoya University. This systems employs multiple unique layers

of filtration combined with magnetism. During the process a minute amount

(2 X 10-12 mol) of a substance called Ferrosoferric Iron is dissolved in

the water, which is claimed to play a role in the electromagnetic balancing

of water. The cluster chains of the H20's are also said to be reduced. Its

filtration includes activated carbon, coral sand, natural active calcium,

BCS ceramics. A powerful magnet is also used. Many amazing claims are made

about the water, including its ability to sustain both freshwater and

saltwater fish together. Its introduction into this country is so new that

still very little is known about it. The writers of this paper have yet no

personal experience with Pi water, but are actively pursuing leads. "

The page http://www.0disease.com/0piwater.html states: " Pi Water® or Pi Mag

Water® was invented in Japan, with the conclusion that far infra red

frequencies are the most important functional property in water. A water

purification system was developed that used magnetic rock, magnets and

stones that expose water to far infra red frequencies. But the problem of

limiting water to specific three dimensional functional properties is the

same issue of limitations as found in water ionization with electrical

currents (which was also invented in Japan), magnets or any other

artificial devices. Nikken took over the sales of Pi Water® units and

renamed them Pi Mag® Units because they added one more powerful magnet to

the water device, which in turn created one more altered water limitation

that is counter productive to human health. Furthermore, the Pi and Pi Mag

water® units do not address the issue of imbuing water with higher

dimensional vibration and energy that is accomplished with Dr. Wheelers

M-Water Activation Technology™ to create Primordial M Water™ that is added

to clean drinking water. "

And finally, a page with a lot more detail:

http://www.balancedlives.net/Hyacinths.htm

" What is Pi Water? It is energy water. It is something alive. Essentially,

it is a vibrational remedy, imprinted with subtle energy patterns. Pi-water

was discovered through the study of botanical physiology. It was originally

thought a hormone was responsible for causing plants to bud. Dr.Yamashita

was conducting research, attempting to isolate this hormone, when he

discovered that what was causing the flower to bud was not a hormone at all

but a very minute amount of ferric ferrous salt. In 1964, Dr. Yamashita, an

agricultural scholar furthered his research and found that this substance

had other highly beneficial qualities.

Inducing this ferric ferrous salt into a high-energy state and infusing it

through a ceramic filter process creates pi-water. A pi particle is a

quantum particle smaller than an electron, neutron and proton. The pi meson

causes the protons and neutrons to exchange energy states with one another,

which create energy and electrical charges of it's own. The amount of

ferric ferrous (bivalent and trivalent ferrite) is minute, a quantum

particle - essentially such a trace amount that it is only the energetic

signature of the substance that remains. (2x 10-12 mol.) (Homeopathy also

utilizes the trace signature of the substance.) It is theorized that these

quantum particles are conductors and are responsible for carrying

information and cellular " memories " (previously encoded information) such

as natural bioenergetics and (other) processes. "

As you can see, there's a lot of snake oil here, moving from ferrous salts

to infra red to pi particles (or pi mesons), which do exist but have a life

span of only 26 billionths of a second.

Sincerely, Harald

At 05:48 PM 5/1/2004 -0400, Martha wrote:

>I have been thinking of purchasing a water filter for my kitchen and a

>gentleman came into my store and suggested I look into a pi water

>filtration system. Claims it cured him completely of his arthritis. Now

>while I have a hard time swallowing that pure water can eliminate ALL

>meds, after seeing what minocin did for me, I never discount anyones

>testamony....unless of course they are trying to sell me something. Has

>anyone ever heard of this??? In looking it up on the net, the claims are

>really wild. Need some input here from anyone who has tried or has any

>thoughts on this unusual health system. I'd like to know if it cleans ones

>body inside and out...or just their wallet!!!

>Martha

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Hi Martha! Geoff here.

You wrote:

" I have been thinking of purchasing a water filter for my kitchen and a

gentleman came into my store and suggested I look into a pi water filtration

system. Claims it cured him completely of his arthritis. "

Start here:

http://www.nsf.org/

www.wqa.org

www.water-filter-gpm.com

Then wade through these:

www.aquamd.com

www.aquapure.com

www.aquasana.com

www.aquasuninternational.com

www.culligan.com

www.puritec.com

www.naturalsoultions1.com

www.waterinc.com

Or, you might want to go over to your nearest Home Depot or Lowe's and ask

for what the trades commonly call a " Fat Boy " filter. It is a large

cartridge-type filter, about 6 " dia and 12 " tall that is capable of

filtering whole-house. Cartridges vary on need, I use the one that is

classed to remove chlorine. That also keeps us from bathing in chlorine.

Cost about $100 including installation by a plumber on the main line coming

into the house.

I installed one Pur on-faucet backup for when we are doing laundry and the

gpm (gallons per minute) is too great for the whole-house system. When that

happens, the water bypasses the fat filter. The Pur is fine for this very

small need.

As you suspect, the Pi Filter would not have cured the man's arthritis, but

it may well have removed the antagonist if he was reacting to pollutants in

his drinking water. If he is selling the product, I wouldn't give him

$0.02. I like to think I can trust people I'm doing business with to be

honest, even if I don't like their answers.

Geoff

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Dean,

Drinking distilled water long-term is very dangerous as you already figured

out. Pure water has pH of 7.0. Distilled water absorbs carbon dioxide from

the air and becomes acidic.

http://www.4optimallife.com/Distilled-Waters-Danger-To-Health.html

There are trace minerals that you can add to distilled water, but trace

minerals are often contaminated with toxins, and 75% of products on the

shelf was found to not have what the ingredient label said (my nutritionist

who did a lot of research told me this).

I just bought a pack of Nestle bottled water from Sam's Club. It's purified

water using reverse osmosis or distillation process, and some minerals are

added for " taste " (that's what the label said). It was a little over $3 for

24 bottles. I didn't test the pH yet, but I think I'm going to just to see.

I heard that grocery stores have water that you can fill into a jug, and

it's reverse osmosis. I've never bought it before, so I don't know too much

about it.

The other alternative is getting water delivered from places like Culligan.

Or get a whole-house reverse osmosis system installed at the main water line

(although I read that RO system uses aluminum, so I would research about it

first).

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Actually there is a very inexpensive, easy way to make alkaline water:

just add 1 teaspoon of sea salt to 1 gallon of regular water. Make

sure you use dirty-looking sea salt, not the white one, which is

processed. The dirty-looking (gray or pink) one has lots of healthy

minerals in it.

If you are using tap water then you need to get rid of the chlorine

first, which is also easy to do. Just leave your water out in a large

open vessel (like a pot or a bowl) for a couple of hours. The chlorine

(which is a gas) will evaporate. Then you can add your sea salt.

Your water, thus treated, will have a slightly salty taste

(predictably...). Many people don't mind this taste at all. Others

just get used to it very quickly.

Sea salt will not drive your blood pressure up either. The white, over

processed table salt does that.

Here are some sites that will help you know more about salt and water,

etc:

http://www.curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

http://www.watercure.com/index.html

Hope this helps.

Healthseeker

>

> Newbie Here !

>

> I have a question on water.

>

> What can we use as an inexpensive way to make Alkaline water?

>

> Also, we have a distiller which we discontinued since it was made in

> China and our pH level became so acidic and we also became really ill.

> I do not trust products from China at all.

>

> I thought distilled water is pH balanced? Any good distillers you

> know of?

>

> Any thoughts would be appreciated!

>

> thanks,

> Dean

>

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