Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 I posted a while back about this problem we share - this kind of 'crash' brought about by eating food at nighttime. I have done quite a lot of reading around since I posted last. I think this is reactive hypoglycemia - an overreaction of the pancreas, producing too much insulin, sucking up too much blood sugar, and hence the crash. This could be due to a number of reasons. A too high carb diet, so the pancreas is constantly having to overreact. Too high blood sugar (from the same cause, but also too high cortisol). Insulin resistance (from too high carb diet, or other factors. Mine is from Gilberts syndrome - a sluggish liver, which cannot regulate blood sugar very well. Insulin resistance, reactive hypoglycemia and blurred vision are common Gilberts synptoms. I have been on a low/no carb diet for 2 years, so its not that). I think my crashes are due to two things - I was taking too much cortisol, and had high blood sugar and insulin resistance. Add in the sluggish liver, which doesn't break down insulin fast enough, so it hangs around for too long, and you get your 'crash'. For me, I have reduced my Pred dosage, and am treating insulin resistance / high blood sugar with GTF chromium, fish oil, cinammon and exercise when I feel up to it. I will give it a couple of months to see how this works. T3 thyroid hormone is important to speed up liver metabolism as well. I have been doing this for about 4 weeks now, and no big crashes like I used to get. I still wake up feeling hungry, but don't eat in the middle of the night. Do you have a glucose monitor? Might be an idea to check what your glucose is doing before you increase your HC any further. Hope this helps Nicola -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " jasrich " wrote: > > Thanks Val and thanks for the encouraging words from earlier. > > The GI quieted down some from earlier in the day but its rumbling now. > I was literally falling asleep at lunch but woke up 15 mins into a > nap, sweating and panicky like I do at night some times. I've been > anxious generally. I know that all of this points to low cortisol > still and that the 1/8 grain increase must be contributing, I just > don't know how to get where I need to be with the cortisol. Cream > seems to be part of the answer for me, but I also seem to be headed > for higher doses than the 32.5mg than I'm on now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Nicola, I know this is 4 jason but I have a ? prior to going on Pred did you have isnsulin issues? I myself know I have a sluggish liver as I am in serveral meds and I am concerned to take milk thistle for now because I can not afford to have detox issues as at this time. I feel real good when I am on Pred.I have no pain and I can leave the hosue. The issues is the two times the Er out me on it it was a high dose for one time a week one time five days and after I was very low mood and felt in alot of pain and exhasution. My Fibro doc and pdoc are very against Pred becasue they say it is real bad for ones mood as well as the worst steroid to be on for the bones, Did U ever try HC? I am taking the salvia test nextweek but I do know HC for a bit I took it weaning off the high dose of Pred. did not help at all. Maybe my liver needs to detox first. Thanks for any feedback aboutthe Pred and the insulin you were talking about. a > > > > I posted a while back about this problem we share - this kind > of 'crash' brought about by eating food at nighttime. I have done > quite a lot of reading around since I posted last. > > I think this is reactive hypoglycemia - an overreaction of the > pancreas, producing too much insulin, sucking up too much blood sugar, > and hence the crash. This could be due to a number of reasons. A too > high carb diet, so the pancreas is constantly having to overreact. Too > high blood sugar (from the same cause, but also too high cortisol). > Insulin resistance (from too high carb diet, or other factors. Mine is > from Gilberts syndrome - a sluggish liver, which cannot regulate blood > sugar very well. Insulin resistance, reactive hypoglycemia and blurred > vision are common Gilberts synptoms. I have been on a low/no carb diet > for 2 years, so its not that). > > I think my crashes are due to two things - I was taking too much > cortisol, and had high blood sugar and insulin resistance. Add in the > sluggish liver, which doesn't break down insulin fast enough, so it > hangs around for too long, and you get your 'crash'. For me, I have > reduced my Pred dosage, and am treating insulin resistance / high blood > sugar with GTF chromium, fish oil, cinammon and exercise when I feel up > to it. I will give it a couple of months to see how this works. T3 > thyroid hormone is important to speed up liver metabolism as well. > > I have been doing this for about 4 weeks now, and no big crashes like I > used to get. I still wake up feeling hungry, but don't eat in the > middle of the night. Do you have a glucose monitor? Might be an idea > to check what your glucose is doing before you increase your HC any > further. > > Hope this helps > > Nicola > > -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS <NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS%40\ yahoogroups.com>, > " jasrich " > wrote: > > > > Thanks Val and thanks for the encouraging words from earlier. > > > > The GI quieted down some from earlier in the day but its rumbling now. > > I was literally falling asleep at lunch but woke up 15 mins into a > > nap, sweating and panicky like I do at night some times. I've been > > anxious generally. I know that all of this points to low cortisol > > still and that the 1/8 grain increase must be contributing, I just > > don't know how to get where I need to be with the cortisol. Cream > > seems to be part of the answer for me, but I also seem to be headed > > for higher doses than the 32.5mg than I'm on now. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Nicola, I know this is 4 jason but I have a ? prior to going on Pred did you have isnsulin issues? I myself know I have a sluggish liver as I am in serveral meds and I am concerned to take milk thistle for now because I can not afford to have detox issues as at this time. I feel real good when I am on Pred.I have no pain and I can leave the hosue. The issues is the two times the Er out me on it it was a high dose for one time a week one time five days and after I was very low mood and felt in alot of pain and exhasution. My Fibro doc and pdoc are very against Pred becasue they say it is real bad for ones mood as well as the worst steroid to be on for the bones, Did U ever try HC? I am taking the salvia test nextweek but I do know HC for a bit I took it weaning off the high dose of Pred. did not help at all. Maybe my liver needs to detox first. Thanks for any feedback aboutthe Pred and the insulin you were talking about. a > > > > I posted a while back about this problem we share - this kind > of 'crash' brought about by eating food at nighttime. I have done > quite a lot of reading around since I posted last. > > I think this is reactive hypoglycemia - an overreaction of the > pancreas, producing too much insulin, sucking up too much blood sugar, > and hence the crash. This could be due to a number of reasons. A too > high carb diet, so the pancreas is constantly having to overreact. Too > high blood sugar (from the same cause, but also too high cortisol). > Insulin resistance (from too high carb diet, or other factors. Mine is > from Gilberts syndrome - a sluggish liver, which cannot regulate blood > sugar very well. Insulin resistance, reactive hypoglycemia and blurred > vision are common Gilberts synptoms. I have been on a low/no carb diet > for 2 years, so its not that). > > I think my crashes are due to two things - I was taking too much > cortisol, and had high blood sugar and insulin resistance. Add in the > sluggish liver, which doesn't break down insulin fast enough, so it > hangs around for too long, and you get your 'crash'. For me, I have > reduced my Pred dosage, and am treating insulin resistance / high blood > sugar with GTF chromium, fish oil, cinammon and exercise when I feel up > to it. I will give it a couple of months to see how this works. T3 > thyroid hormone is important to speed up liver metabolism as well. > > I have been doing this for about 4 weeks now, and no big crashes like I > used to get. I still wake up feeling hungry, but don't eat in the > middle of the night. Do you have a glucose monitor? Might be an idea > to check what your glucose is doing before you increase your HC any > further. > > Hope this helps > > Nicola > > -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS <NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS%40\ yahoogroups.com>, > " jasrich " > wrote: > > > > Thanks Val and thanks for the encouraging words from earlier. > > > > The GI quieted down some from earlier in the day but its rumbling now. > > I was literally falling asleep at lunch but woke up 15 mins into a > > nap, sweating and panicky like I do at night some times. I've been > > anxious generally. I know that all of this points to low cortisol > > still and that the 1/8 grain increase must be contributing, I just > > don't know how to get where I need to be with the cortisol. Cream > > seems to be part of the answer for me, but I also seem to be headed > > for higher doses than the 32.5mg than I'm on now. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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