Re: It's Sara..need help again Val please

[Guest guest]

Good Morning Val,

Woke at 8am after sleeping lightly most of the night. Would like to

sleep more but feel wired. Have headache and fast pulse 80 but feels

much faster perhaps because I feel shakey inside? A bit hungry but

can't face eggs again as recommended. Wish I had my appetite back.

Average temps for last 5 days:

Fri 97.5

Sat 97.2

Sun 98.06

Mon 98.13

Tues 97.7

Can you please advise what to do and why i might feel this way? It's

almost 9am my time so know you probably won't get this message for a

while so will go ahead and rub in a gram of HC cream. Since I stress

dosed the last 2 days does that mean temps don't count as far as

using them to decide when I can start Armour?

Sara

[Guest guest]

Good Morning Val,

Woke at 8am after sleeping lightly most of the night. Would like to

sleep more but feel wired. Have headache and fast pulse 80 but feels

much faster perhaps because I feel shakey inside? A bit hungry but

can't face eggs again as recommended. Wish I had my appetite back.

Average temps for last 5 days:

Fri 97.5

Sat 97.2

Sun 98.06

Mon 98.13

Tues 97.7

Can you please advise what to do and why i might feel this way? It's

almost 9am my time so know you probably won't get this message for a

while so will go ahead and rub in a gram of HC cream. Since I stress

dosed the last 2 days does that mean temps don't count as far as

using them to decide when I can start Armour?

Sara

[Guest guest]

Thanks Val for your reply to part 2, will follow thru..did you see

this message I posted before?

>

> Good Morning Val,

>

> Woke at 8am after sleeping lightly most of the night. Would like to

> sleep more but feel wired. Have headache and fast pulse 80 but

feels

> much faster perhaps because I feel shakey inside? A bit hungry but

> can't face eggs again as recommended. Wish I had my appetite back.

>

> Average temps for last 5 days:

>

> Fri 97.5

> Sat 97.2

> Sun 98.06

> Mon 98.13

> Tues 97.7

>

> Can you please advise what to do and why i might feel this way?

It's

> almost 9am my time so know you probably won't get this message for

a

> while so will go ahead and rub in a gram of HC cream. Since I

stress

> dosed the last 2 days does that mean temps don't count as far as

> using them to decide when I can start Armour?

Does resting in bed help adrenals? i.e if I do will I need to stress

dose less HC or do i need to stress dose anyway to give my adrenals

the help they need to recover from the crash?

Thank you,

>

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Val for your reply to part 2, will follow thru..did you see

this message I posted before?

>

> Good Morning Val,

>

> Woke at 8am after sleeping lightly most of the night. Would like to

> sleep more but feel wired. Have headache and fast pulse 80 but

feels

> much faster perhaps because I feel shakey inside? A bit hungry but

> can't face eggs again as recommended. Wish I had my appetite back.

>

> Average temps for last 5 days:

>

> Fri 97.5

> Sat 97.2

> Sun 98.06

> Mon 98.13

> Tues 97.7

>

> Can you please advise what to do and why i might feel this way?

It's

> almost 9am my time so know you probably won't get this message for

a

> while so will go ahead and rub in a gram of HC cream. Since I

stress

> dosed the last 2 days does that mean temps don't count as far as

> using them to decide when I can start Armour?

Does resting in bed help adrenals? i.e if I do will I need to stress

dose less HC or do i need to stress dose anyway to give my adrenals

the help they need to recover from the crash?

Thank you,

>

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

>>Woke at 8am after sleeping lightly most of the night. Would like to

> sleep more but feel wired. Have headache and fast pulse 80 but

feels

> > much faster perhaps because I feel shakey inside? A bit hungry but

> > can't face eggs again as recommended. Wish I had my appetite back.

> >

Are you taking a bedtime dose? You might try increasing it as this

happens when cortiosl runs too low overnight. Your appetite will come

back as your system starts funcitoning better.

--

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[Guest guest]

>>Woke at 8am after sleeping lightly most of the night. Would like to

> sleep more but feel wired. Have headache and fast pulse 80 but

feels

> > much faster perhaps because I feel shakey inside? A bit hungry but

> > can't face eggs again as recommended. Wish I had my appetite back.

> >

Are you taking a bedtime dose? You might try increasing it as this

happens when cortiosl runs too low overnight. Your appetite will come

back as your system starts funcitoning better.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Wow, that was fast Val! No the last dose I took was at 7pm and went to

bed at 1am. Thought because I wasn't sleepy that more HC would get me

more wired, so this isn't the case?

Could you please answer my stress dose question and temps/armour

question when you get a chance?

So many Thanks, I feel I'd be more comfortable giving you my credit

card number to pay for all this advise or could do by Paypal..let me

know what you think. You must be compensated for your time!

Love

Sara

> > >

>

> Are you taking a bedtime dose? You might try increasing it as this

> happens when cortiosl runs too low overnight. Your appetite will come

> back as your system starts funcitoning better.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, that was fast Val! No the last dose I took was at 7pm and went to

bed at 1am. Thought because I wasn't sleepy that more HC would get me

more wired, so this isn't the case?

Could you please answer my stress dose question and temps/armour

question when you get a chance?

So many Thanks, I feel I'd be more comfortable giving you my credit

card number to pay for all this advise or could do by Paypal..let me

know what you think. You must be compensated for your time!

Love

Sara

> > >

>

> Are you taking a bedtime dose? You might try increasing it as this

> happens when cortiosl runs too low overnight. Your appetite will come

> back as your system starts funcitoning better.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just having to stress dose means you should not raise thyroid until

temps settle back down again. Resting DOES help as you use less cortisol

than you would if trying to get things done, but if resting causes you

to stress thinking of all the things you SHOULD be doing... then it may

be better to get up and do what oyu can. Manyof us are in this state due

partially from a Type A personality that drives us to do too much, thus

the stress can be worse from trying to rest then just tryoing to do some

little things to appease this part of us.

I cannto accept money for this as that would be giving medical advice

without a license and is illegal in this country. I do nto want money fo

rit anyway. I am doing it for my own selfish reasons of trying to CHANGE

a medical system gone very wrong. A medical system that killed my mother

and tried to kill me. That is all the recompence I need if we actually

sicceed in getting even a few doctors to take up the call and start

admitting there is an epidemic of thyroid/adrenal problems and actually

learning to treat it properly.BTW I advoacate for PETS as well as people

as I efucate pet owners abotu their pets thyroid/adrenal probalem as

well! Believe it or not, it is almost as wodespread in domestic animals

as it si in humans, and veterinarians for the most part are no better at

treating it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Just having to stress dose means you should not raise thyroid until

temps settle back down again. Resting DOES help as you use less cortisol

than you would if trying to get things done, but if resting causes you

to stress thinking of all the things you SHOULD be doing... then it may

be better to get up and do what oyu can. Manyof us are in this state due

partially from a Type A personality that drives us to do too much, thus

the stress can be worse from trying to rest then just tryoing to do some

little things to appease this part of us.

I cannto accept money for this as that would be giving medical advice

without a license and is illegal in this country. I do nto want money fo

rit anyway. I am doing it for my own selfish reasons of trying to CHANGE

a medical system gone very wrong. A medical system that killed my mother

and tried to kill me. That is all the recompence I need if we actually

sicceed in getting even a few doctors to take up the call and start

admitting there is an epidemic of thyroid/adrenal problems and actually

learning to treat it properly.BTW I advoacate for PETS as well as people

as I efucate pet owners abotu their pets thyroid/adrenal probalem as

well! Believe it or not, it is almost as wodespread in domestic animals

as it si in humans, and veterinarians for the most part are no better at

treating it.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

>>Wow, that was fast Val! No the last dose I took was at 7pm and went to

bed at 1am. Thought because I wasn't sleepy that more HC would get me

more wired, so this isn't the case?<<

When you begin to get enough cortilsl on the daytime from the HC you hit a

point wher ti lowers ACTH to omuch anbd at night will need a bedtime dose as

well. I believe you have come tp this point as AM hypoglycemia or AM fatigeu are

signs you have run too low on cortiosl overnight,. Then you nee dot take a littl

e dose at bedtie, not before, that will actually help you sleep as it lowers the

adrnealine that is produced when you run low on cortiosl.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

>>Wow, that was fast Val! No the last dose I took was at 7pm and went to

bed at 1am. Thought because I wasn't sleepy that more HC would get me

more wired, so this isn't the case?<<

When you begin to get enough cortilsl on the daytime from the HC you hit a

point wher ti lowers ACTH to omuch anbd at night will need a bedtime dose as

well. I believe you have come tp this point as AM hypoglycemia or AM fatigeu are

signs you have run too low on cortiosl overnight,. Then you nee dot take a littl

e dose at bedtie, not before, that will actually help you sleep as it lowers the

adrnealine that is produced when you run low on cortiosl.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Okay Val, but if there is anything I can do apart from going thru

this and passing on my experience please don't hesitate to ask. My

much loved cat developed hyperthyroidism at age 12. Because I

was ill I had to return to Ireland and leave her in New York with

someone I thought was a friend. She ended up having her put to sleep

after a few months, I still haven't been able to bring myself to

speak with her as I had arranged for someone else to temporarily

adopt her when she complained of the hassle of gving her her medicine

but she went ahead and put her to sleep without my ok. Actually left

a message on my machine saying this..it was a year ago today. Still

makes me cry.

As far as temps go..I see they are raised about a point since using

more HC, so I have to wait till I use less HC to be able to take

Armour is that right? How will I know when I can stop stress dosing?

Could it take weeks? but I only have a window of 2 weeks before I run

into 'trouble' as you say right?

Blessings on you,

Sara

>

> Just having to stress dose means you should not raise thyroid until

> temps settle back down again. Resting DOES help as you use less

cortisol

> than you would if trying to get things done, but if resting causes

you

> to stress thinking of all the things you SHOULD be doing... then it

may

> be better to get up and do what oyu can. Manyof us are in this

state due

> partially from a Type A personality that drives us to do too much,

thus

> the stress can be worse from trying to rest then just tryoing to do

some

> little things to appease this part of us.

> I cannto accept money for this as that would be giving medical

advice

> without a license and is illegal in this country. I do nto want

money fo

> rit anyway. I am doing it for my own selfish reasons of trying to

CHANGE

> a medical system gone very wrong. A medical system that killed my

mother

> and tried to kill me. That is all the recompence I need if we

actually

> sicceed in getting even a few doctors to take up the call and start

> admitting there is an epidemic of thyroid/adrenal problems and

actually

> learning to treat it properly.BTW I advoacate for PETS as well as

people

> as I efucate pet owners abotu their pets thyroid/adrenal probalem

as

> well! Believe it or not, it is almost as wodespread in domestic

animals

> as it si in humans, and veterinarians for the most part are no

better at

> treating it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Okay Val, but if there is anything I can do apart from going thru

this and passing on my experience please don't hesitate to ask. My

much loved cat developed hyperthyroidism at age 12. Because I

was ill I had to return to Ireland and leave her in New York with

someone I thought was a friend. She ended up having her put to sleep

after a few months, I still haven't been able to bring myself to

speak with her as I had arranged for someone else to temporarily

adopt her when she complained of the hassle of gving her her medicine

but she went ahead and put her to sleep without my ok. Actually left

a message on my machine saying this..it was a year ago today. Still

makes me cry.

As far as temps go..I see they are raised about a point since using

more HC, so I have to wait till I use less HC to be able to take

Armour is that right? How will I know when I can stop stress dosing?

Could it take weeks? but I only have a window of 2 weeks before I run

into 'trouble' as you say right?

Blessings on you,

Sara

>

> Just having to stress dose means you should not raise thyroid until

> temps settle back down again. Resting DOES help as you use less

cortisol

> than you would if trying to get things done, but if resting causes

you

> to stress thinking of all the things you SHOULD be doing... then it

may

> be better to get up and do what oyu can. Manyof us are in this

state due

> partially from a Type A personality that drives us to do too much,

thus

> the stress can be worse from trying to rest then just tryoing to do

some

> little things to appease this part of us.

> I cannto accept money for this as that would be giving medical

advice

> without a license and is illegal in this country. I do nto want

money fo

> rit anyway. I am doing it for my own selfish reasons of trying to

CHANGE

> a medical system gone very wrong. A medical system that killed my

mother

> and tried to kill me. That is all the recompence I need if we

actually

> sicceed in getting even a few doctors to take up the call and start

> admitting there is an epidemic of thyroid/adrenal problems and

actually

> learning to treat it properly.BTW I advoacate for PETS as well as

people

> as I efucate pet owners abotu their pets thyroid/adrenal probalem

as

> well! Believe it or not, it is almost as wodespread in domestic

animals

> as it si in humans, and veterinarians for the most part are no

better at

> treating it.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

>>As far as temps go..I see they are raised about a point since using

more HC, so I have to wait till I use less HC to be able to take

Armour is that right? How will I know when I can stop stress dosing?

Could it take weeks? but I only have a window of 2 weeks before I run

into 'trouble' as you say right?<<

Sorry to hear of your kitty, that is the ONE thing that keeps me struggling

every day! Of my 8 pets, 4 are on meds. One for adrenals the other three

thyroid. Who would take care of them if something happened ot me? NO ONE. So I

must go on to give my babies the life they deserve. BTW they are ALL doing

wonderfully and my dog is now reversing some of her previous food allergies!

JUst from proper thyroid meds!

Anyway.. The rise in temps tells me maybe you needed that extra HC. How much

are you on now?

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I've switched over to cream only today in the hopes the pain in my

tummy will be a thing of the past. it's not so sore today. I took

60mg yesterday. 10 at 9.30 am and 10 at 1pm today but feeling a bit

shaky so will take more shortly so I can shower and get out for a

little walk.

Sara x

- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

wrote:

>

> >>As far as temps go..I see they are raised about a point since

using

> more HC, so I have to wait till I use less HC to be able to take

> Armour is that right? How will I know when I can stop stress

dosing?

> Could it take weeks? but I only have a window of 2 weeks before I

run

> into 'trouble' as you say right?<<

>

> Sorry to hear of your kitty, that is the ONE thing that keeps me

struggling every day! Of my 8 pets, 4 are on meds. One for adrenals

the other three thyroid. Who would take care of them if something

happened ot me? NO ONE. So I must go on to give my babies the life

they deserve. BTW they are ALL doing wonderfully and my dog is now

reversing some of her previous food allergies! JUst from proper

thyroid meds!

> Anyway.. The rise in temps tells me maybe you needed that extra

HC. How much are you on now?

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

I've switched over to cream only today in the hopes the pain in my

tummy will be a thing of the past. it's not so sore today. I took

60mg yesterday. 10 at 9.30 am and 10 at 1pm today but feeling a bit

shaky so will take more shortly so I can shower and get out for a

little walk.

Sara x

- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

wrote:

>

> >>As far as temps go..I see they are raised about a point since

using

> more HC, so I have to wait till I use less HC to be able to take

> Armour is that right? How will I know when I can stop stress

dosing?

> Could it take weeks? but I only have a window of 2 weeks before I

run

> into 'trouble' as you say right?<<

>

> Sorry to hear of your kitty, that is the ONE thing that keeps me

struggling every day! Of my 8 pets, 4 are on meds. One for adrenals

the other three thyroid. Who would take care of them if something

happened ot me? NO ONE. So I must go on to give my babies the life

they deserve. BTW they are ALL doing wonderfully and my dog is now

reversing some of her previous food allergies! JUst from proper

thyroid meds!

> Anyway.. The rise in temps tells me maybe you needed that extra

HC. How much are you on now?

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

I think you should split the doses up to smaller dosing more often,

instead of a 10MG dose try taking just 5MG and then in a couple hours IF

you have symptoms, take another 2.5mg and go down that way.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I think you should split the doses up to smaller dosing more often,

instead of a 10MG dose try taking just 5MG and then in a couple hours IF

you have symptoms, take another 2.5mg and go down that way.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I fogot to say you should wtart that dosing in the AM as thta will allow

your ACTh to come back up to normal a bit better so you CAN make some of

your own cortiosl.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I fogot to say you should wtart that dosing in the AM as thta will allow

your ACTh to come back up to normal a bit better so you CAN make some of

your own cortiosl.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I have symptoms already after 10mg 90 minutes ago..so shud I not

continue stress dosing today? i.e. as much as I need to be able to do

some activity without shaking? Did at least 60mg HC on Xmas eve too

>

> I think you should split the doses up to smaller dosing more often,

> instead of a 10MG dose try taking just 5MG and then in a couple hours

IF

> you have symptoms, take another 2.5mg and go down that way.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

I have symptoms already after 10mg 90 minutes ago..so shud I not

continue stress dosing today? i.e. as much as I need to be able to do

some activity without shaking? Did at least 60mg HC on Xmas eve too

>

> I think you should split the doses up to smaller dosing more often,

> instead of a 10MG dose try taking just 5MG and then in a couple hours

IF

> you have symptoms, take another 2.5mg and go down that way.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Try some sea salt to releive the shaking. It may be that the high HC

doses has unbalanced your aldosterone. If that does nto releive it, try

to wait to see if nausea follows. I would tyr to get through on less

today. maye nust 10 MG less but stress levels SHOULD be better today.

Are you ill? Or felling OK aside from this?

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Try some sea salt to releive the shaking. It may be that the high HC

doses has unbalanced your aldosterone. If that does nto releive it, try

to wait to see if nausea follows. I would tyr to get through on less

today. maye nust 10 MG less but stress levels SHOULD be better today.

Are you ill? Or felling OK aside from this?

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/