Re: Allergic Reactions

December 27, 2007

>>Val, what say you? Is stress dosing with HC a viable alternative?<<

Yes but what you took was a supressive dose which 5-5mg pred equals 100mg HC. I

cannto recommend that much of a dose but a doctor might.

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December 27, 2007

I put Bentonite clay on my skin when I had my bad hives. I do recommend a

Vitamin C flush though. how many days have you been suffering from the hives

now? Usually they will clear up on your own if you flush out the offending

toxin.

Cheri

Re: Allergic Reactions

Thank you everyone for your help. The antihistamines wore off

about an hour ago and I am sitting here crying. I can't take

anymore until 6 a.m....4 hrs to go. This is the worst thing I have

ever encountered. My entire body is swollen and red and

itching...there is not one area not affected now. My husband wants

me to goto the emergency room...but I really don't want them

touching me.

I think I have Zantac and will try that. Never would have occured

to me, since I have it in my medicine chest for reflux.

I'm sorry I don't know what the other thing is...bentonite

.

December 27, 2007

In the past doctor has told me to ask pharmacist for Lavendar Oil. Back in

the old days....he mixed it.

-- Re: Allergic Reactions

IF the cream and 4 hour dosing of Chlorpheniramine don't fix it,

Consider adding 150 mg Zantac am and pm.

Per the Postgraduate Medicine link I sent you earlier.

Sometimes it takes both H1 and H2 histamine blockers to get a good

response.

If nothing else, sometimes putting an ice pack on the worst areas helps.

Or a long cold shower. NO heat (for me) though some people have said

that taking a long very hot shower can cause more histamine release in

the skin, and thus speed up the course of the reaction. But it won't be

comfortable!!! ly I never had the guts to try it.

When I had huge hives all over my face, at the doctor I got seen

immediately. They did NOT want me sitting in the waiting room scaring

the other patients!

sol

..

December 27, 2007

I can second that! It feels like your whole body is on fire, burning

and itching at the same time. Scratching feels SOOO good, but then, oh

dear, now I'm bleeding.

And then there was the time I went into anaphylactic shock from sulfa

drugs. Puffed up like a balloon, went to the ER, was given more

antihistamines and deflated overnight. The next day I felt like I'd

been run over by a truck.

No, allergies are no laughing matter, and you have our complete

sympathy. When your brain can think again (over the itching), you

really need to recount your days, hour by hour, over the last few

days. If it was the orange soda, then there had to be additional

Yellow 5 you ingested previous to or since that one soda. You need to

read the label of everything you ate, and the hard part is recalling

foods you ate outside of your home. But something is triggering you

and if you don't figure it out, it will probably happen again.

It could also be something else. Sulfites are another biggie, found in

dried apricots, wines, balsamic vinegar, tortillas, etc.

Good luck!

Barb

sol wrote:

> I don't think you are a baby. No one who has not experienced this can

> truly know how bad it can be.

> sol

>

December 27, 2007

Thank you everyone for your help. The antihistamines wore off

about an hour ago and I am sitting here crying. I can't take

anymore until 6 a.m....4 hrs to go. This is the worst thing I have

ever encountered. My entire body is swollen and red and

itching...there is not one area not affected now. My husband wants

me to goto the emergency room...but I really don't want them

touching me.

I think I have Zantac and will try that. Never would have occured

to me, since I have it in my medicine chest for reflux.

I'm sorry I don't know what the other thing is...bentonite?

>

> > I don't think you are a baby. No one who has not experienced

this can

> > truly know how bad it can be.

> > sol

> >

>

December 27, 2007

Are you keeping your digestive system clean? Do you have constipation? If you do

please do something to clean your bowels.. May be an enema.. do vegetable

juicing. Stop eating meat for a while.Just have some light soups.

bw

Nil

Re: Allergic Reactions

Thank you everyone for your help. The antihistamines wore off

about an hour ago and I am sitting here crying. I can't take

anymore until 6 a.m....4 hrs to go. This is the worst thing I have

ever encountered. My entire body is swollen and red and

itching...there is not one area not affected now. My husband wants

me to goto the emergency room...but I really don't want them

touching me.

I think I have Zantac and will try that. Never would have occured

to me, since I have it in my medicine chest for reflux.

I'm sorry I don't know what the other thing is...bentonite?

>

> > I don't think you are a baby. No one who has not experienced

this can

> > truly know how bad it can be.

> > sol

> >

>

December 27, 2007

You might also consider having coffee enema or master cleanse which is decribed

below,

`In order to establish beneficial intestinal flora it is preferable to eliminate

most of the harmful bacteria and fungi beforehand. I recommend taking garlic

with Epsom salts, or in an isotonic salt solution, to flush the whole length of

the intestinal tract. Water with the same salt concentration as blood is called

isotonic, and is not normally absorbed but passes through the whole of the

intestinal tract. An isotonic solution has a salt content of about 0.9 %, or

approximately 1 heaped teaspoonful to 1 liter of water. Mix this with a medium

to large clove of finely crushed garlic. Unpleasant symptoms due to so-called

die-off of Candida will be minimized with this flush, as the dead microbes are

washed out of the body. If, for some reason, the flush does not come out at the

other end within a few hours, and you start feeling uncomfortable, then take

immediately a tablespoon of Epsom salt. However, if you had already breakfast

then it is better to try an enema.`

bw

Nil

Re: Allergic Reactions

Thank you everyone for your help. The antihistamines wore off

about an hour ago and I am sitting here crying. I can't take

anymore until 6 a.m....4 hrs to go. This is the worst thing I have

ever encountered. My entire body is swollen and red and

itching...there is not one area not affected now. My husband wants

me to goto the emergency room...but I really don't want them

touching me.

I think I have Zantac and will try that. Never would have occured

to me, since I have it in my medicine chest for reflux.

I'm sorry I don't know what the other thing is...bentonite?

>

> > I don't think you are a baby. No one who has not experienced

this can

> > truly know how bad it can be.

> > sol

> >

>

December 28, 2007

My dr. sent me magnesium citrate 'lemonade' to drink as a

laxative.....he says to flush out the allergens that are still in my

intestinal tract. I'm NEVER constipated....but I took it anyway.

At this point I would hang from a bridge naked if I thought it would

help.

Thanks for the help...but I don't have it in me to do an enema now.

Maybe some other day???

Naffy

> >

> > > I don't think you are a baby. No one who has not experienced

> this can

> > > truly know how bad it can be.

> > > sol

> > >

> >

>

December 28, 2007

I know from experience that applying hc cream to hives is soothing

Lynda

Re: Allergic Reactions

> Bentonite is a possibility. And applying bentonite in a paste to the

> affected areas might possibly help, but I've never tried it. At some

> point when a reaction of this type gets bad enough anything you put

> on

> the skin will cause more pain, just because it has become unbearably

> sensitive.

> sol

>

December 28, 2007

Hi Naffy,

I hope that you are doing better today. You sound really miserable.

Gale

December 28, 2007

Just a thought - any chance this is chicken pox? Kinda sounds like it.

Christi Randall

www.singingwomenoftexas.com

Re: Allergic Reactions

No Val...no new clothes....nor anything different really, except I

drank an orange soda, which I haven't had in years...since I was a

kid.LOL No, this is something very strange for me....like I've said

in the other posts this morning...I have NEVER had a skin reaction

to anything in my life. Once when starting Armour I did itch but it

went away on its own within a few hours, and their were no welts.

This is gross...and now spreading to my neck and lower scalp area.

I'm looking like a freak! And the itching!!! OMG the itching!!

Funny you should mention elastic, because the first breakout on

Christmas evening was right along the panty line.

Am waiting for my next chlorotrimtron and then will be spreading

some HC on the worst areas. Do you think its okay to take the 20 mg

now...at night?? Subtracting of course what i put on in cream.

Geez...what a day!

Thanks,

Naffy

>

> BTW you didn't get new clothing over Christmas did you? Some kinds

of

> elastic drive me bonkers. Especially if it touches my skin.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

December 28, 2007

Hi Cheri..thnak you for your concern.....the hives started the 25th

late at night...hardly nothing in comparison to now, but I took a

Zyrtec and it sort of cleared up the next day. But then that

evening (26th) all hell broke lose, and my whole body was covered. I

took another Zyrtec and it helped somewhat but new breakouts were

popping out all over. Then yesterday morn I had my hubbie run to

the drugstore and get me chlortrimeton but he brought me 4 mg

tablets (later that night the doc said 4 mg was for children and

upped to 8 mg). I think a BIG mistake I made was to take a hot bath

yesterday with baking soda. I don't know why my body wanted that, I

guess to numb the pain, since I used to do very hot baths for

backache. Anyway it was about an hour after the bath that I got

really bad. Started crying from the desperation of the itch and

just seeing my body like that. Later I read on the list that heat

can make the reaction worse.....I had no idea. Like I've mentioned,

I'm very ignorant in skin issues since I've never had one (am 55).

Last night I took the chlorotrimeton/zyrtec and a zantac (per sol's

suggestion) and of course, the 'laxative' the dr. sent me. I went

all night so if there were toxins in the intestines they should be

gone now.

This morning I am groggy...to be expected....still have bright red

breakouts and itching, but the old ones seem to be clearing up.

My heart goes out to anyone who suffers with this regularly. I

have had several surgeries in my life, and beleive me when I say

THIS HAS BEEN WORSE than surgery recovery for me. It is a totally

desperate situation to itch all over....a horrible kind of pain, and

I really did not handle it well at all. Have cried all

night...which probably isn't helping my adrenals at all.

Thank you to so many who answered and were concerned. I did sit at

the comp last night and see the posts but could not answer. Just

sitting in a chair would activate the ones on my buttocks!!

I'll keep everyone posted ...and thanks again,

Naffy

>

> I put Bentonite clay on my skin when I had my bad hives. I do

recommend a

> Vitamin C flush though. how many days have you been suffering from

the hives

> now? Usually they will clear up on your own if you flush out the

offending

> toxin.

>

> Cheri

> Re: Allergic Reactions

>

> Thank you everyone for your help. The antihistamines wore off

> about an hour ago and I am sitting here crying. I can't take

> anymore until 6 a.m....4 hrs to go. This is the worst thing I

have

> ever encountered. My entire body is swollen and red and

> itching...there is not one area not affected now. My husband

wants

> me to goto the emergency room...but I really don't want them

> touching me.

>

> I think I have Zantac and will try that. Never would have occured

> to me, since I have it in my medicine chest for reflux.

>

> I'm sorry I don't know what the other thing is...bentonite

> .

>

December 28, 2007

Hi Christi...my doc asked me (by phone) if I had a fever or sore

throat and I didn't so he assumed it wasn't viral. Can't remember

if I had it as a kid, and alas, my mom is alzheimer's so no hope of

a recollection there either.

Thanks,

Naffy

> >

> > BTW you didn't get new clothing over Christmas did you? Some

kinds

> of

> > elastic drive me bonkers. Especially if it touches my skin.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

> WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

>

December 28, 2007

Cheri I forgot....I wanted to do the Vit C flush and had my hubbie

help me search the cabinets last night for one that wasn't ascorbic

acid. ALL of the ones in our house are ascorbic acid so I didn't

dare.

What are the other kinds of Vit C I can take, and how much and for

how long? To bowel tolerance? How will I know if I have the eternal

runs from the magnesium laxative from last night?

Sorry to bother with so manyh questions....and thanks,

Naffy

>

> I put Bentonite clay on my skin when I had my bad hives. I do

recommend a

> Vitamin C flush though. how many days have you been suffering from

the hives

> now? Usually they will clear up on your own if you flush out the

offending

> toxin.

>

> Cheri

> Re: Allergic Reactions

>

> Thank you everyone for your help. The antihistamines wore off

> about an hour ago and I am sitting here crying. I can't take

> anymore until 6 a.m....4 hrs to go. This is the worst thing I

have

> ever encountered. My entire body is swollen and red and

> itching...there is not one area not affected now. My husband

wants

> me to goto the emergency room...but I really don't want them

> touching me.

>

> I think I have Zantac and will try that. Never would have occured

> to me, since I have it in my medicine chest for reflux.

>

> I'm sorry I don't know what the other thing is...bentonite

> .

>

December 28, 2007

Vitamin C IS ascorbic acid. You can buffer it with baking soda to make

sodium ascorbate, or it can be buffered with calcium to make calcium

ascorbate (ester C).

But whether naturally occuring in orange juice or manufactured, the

chemical that is vit C is ascorbic acid.

sol

nafoel wrote:

> Cheri I forgot....I wanted to do the Vit C flush and had my hubbie

> help me search the cabinets last night for one that wasn't ascorbic

> acid.

December 28, 2007

Wow...how do you know so much? I feel so dumb. Ok...so why do I want

to avoid ascorbic acid when I have hives?? And what do I do to my own

vitmin c here in the house....take it with baking soda or calcium?

Then it won't be ascorbic anymore? How much?

I'm doing much better today.....thank you all so much!!!

Naffy

> > Cheri I forgot....I wanted to do the Vit C flush and had my hubbie

> > help me search the cabinets last night for one that wasn't

ascorbic

> > acid.

>

December 28, 2007

hi sol

do you have any idea on how much baking soda is needed to buffer ascorbic

acid.?little? or equal amounts?

bw

Nil

Re: Allergic Reactions

Vitamin C IS ascorbic acid. You can buffer it with baking soda to make

sodium ascorbate, or it can be buffered with calcium to make calcium

ascorbate (ester C).

But

December 28, 2007

Just off the top of my head..it could be the artificial color in the soda~but I

know a gal who has a child who is allergic to citric acid!!! She has horrible

reactions to it...is there citric acid in that pop?