Re: re: canadian pharmacy

December 17, 2002

In a message dated 12/16/02 9:56:27 PM, mike_ferrario@... writes:

<< I started AP 7 weeks ago, on the pelleted version, so I have nothing to

compare it to. I only know that I am reacting strongly(herx) to dose

(50 mgms M-W-F),

Robyn >>

What is a herx compared to a flare up?

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December 17, 2002

Hi Martha,

I'm in BC and started with pellatized Minocin in Oct of this year. I

asked my doc to prescribe " as written " and asked the pharmacist to order

it (Lederle of Wyeth). The rx arrived 2 days later. If I can do it in my

wee little village, it should be possible for you.

Robyn

rheumatic re: canadian pharmacy

I have contacted three pharmacys in Canada to try and get minocin.

All had

minocin, but when I asked the pharmacist to actually look at the pill

and see

if it was pellatized or a powder inside...all three were powdered.

Obviously

generic although I specifically asked for the brand minocin. None had

the

pellatized avaliable. Martha

December 17, 2002

Name brand Lederle used to be a powdered variety in Canada so that is

old stock. Wait a bit and they will use that up and have name brand

pelleted which is what Canada has switched to recently. Its kind of

confusing sometimes because Canada is different and for years the

branded was a powder.

rheumatic re: canadian pharmacy

I have contacted three pharmacys in Canada to try and get minocin.

All had

minocin, but when I asked the pharmacist to actually look at the pill

and see

if it was pellatized or a powder inside...all three were powdered.

Obviously

generic although I specifically asked for the brand minocin. None had

the

pellatized avaliable. Martha

December 17, 2002

Robyn,

I'm sorry for sending this to you directly rather than sending to the

group by mistake.

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Hi Robyn,

Did you find any difference after taking pellatized Minocin?

We've heard lots of results for the difference between pellatized Minocin

and generic minocycline manufactured by other than Lederle (Waythe).

I'm taking powdered Minomycin of Lederle brand here in Japan and craving

for real Minocin! Minomycin is doing fine job for me, though.

Norio

from Japan

December 17, 2002

Hi Norio,

Please see the post to “Bob and Carol” for info re Minocin.

I started AP 7 weeks ago, on the pelleted version, so I have nothing to

compare it to. I only know that I am reacting strongly(herx) to ½ dose

(50 mgms M-W-F),

Robyn

Re: rheumatic re: canadian pharmacy

Robyn,

I'm sorry for sending this to you directly rather than sending to the

group by mistake.

----------------------------------------------------

Hi Robyn,

Did you find any difference after taking pellatized Minocin?

We've heard lots of results for the difference between pellatized

Minocin

and generic minocycline manufactured by other than Lederle (Waythe).

I'm taking powdered Minomycin of Lederle brand here in Japan and craving

for real Minocin! Minomycin is doing fine job for me, though.

Norio

from Japan

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December 17, 2002

Dear Group,

We have received a number of inputs to the effect that there still exists a

Canadian version of powdered minocycline that is sold under the Lederle

(now Wyeth-Ayerst) label, and which works exceedingly well for RA. I

surmise that even though the brand labels are the same, the powdered

Canadian version is made in a different factory than its pelleted US

counterpart, which is brand-name Lederle (now Wyeth-Ayerst) Minocin.

I surmise that Wyeth-Ayerst purchased a Canadian company some while back

and is now in process of discontinuing that company's minocycline to avoid

any competition with the more expensive brand-name Minocin. In September

2001, Wyeth discontinued the sale of its US generic minocycline, which was

identical to Minocin. Regrettably, it's all about profit margins, not value

to patients.

Sincerely, Harald

At 10:58 PM 12/16/02 -0800, Lynne wrote:

>Hi Martha;

> I live in Ontario and all I can get is Lederle (now Wyeth-Ayerst) and

> it is peleted.Am not doing nearly as well with it. The powdered was very

> good but alas most pharmacies do not have it any more. Lynne

December 17, 2002

Hi Martha;

I live in Ontario and all I can get is Lederle(now Wyeth-Ayerst) and it is

peleted.Am not doing nearly as well with it.The powdered was very good but alas

most pharmacys dn not have it any more Lynne

MRSROSE2000@... wrote:

> I have contacted three pharmacys in Canada to try and get minocin. All had

> minocin, but when I asked the pharmacist to actually look at the pill and see

> if it was pellatized or a powder inside...all three were powdered. Obviously

> generic although I specifically asked for the brand minocin. None had the

> pellatized avaliable. Martha

>

December 17, 2002

Hi Pris,

I too new to AP to know the difference between a flare and a herheimer

reaction. When I first started taking the Minocin, there was an obvious

increase in pain (generalized) and it had a pattern of being worse that

night and the next day. Over the past week I now have increased pain all

the time.

I wish I knew also,

Robyn

Re: rheumatic re: canadian pharmacy

In a message dated 12/16/02 9:56:27 PM, mike_ferrario@... writes:

<< I started AP 7 weeks ago, on the pelleted version, so I have nothing

to

compare it to. I only know that I am reacting strongly(herx) to dose

(50 mgms M-W-F),

Robyn >>

What is a herx compared to a flare up?

Pris

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December 17, 2002

Hi Robyn,

I'm sure you're experiencing a herx, which often occurs when you start

the AP or even adjust your dosage. Much as it feels rotten, it's

actually a good sign that the treatment is working and kicking up some

bugs. The toxins released by the bugs dying off is what is thought to

cause the symptoms of a herx. The best way to deal with it is to watch

your diet, drink tons of water to flush out the toxins and get as much

rest as possible. Give yourself some TLC, be patient and this, too,

shall pass. If the herx becomes more than you can bear, you can always

reduce your mino dosage, then slowly increase it over time to give your

system more of a chance to adjust. What you're experiencing is the " two

steps back " we often refer to but you'll soon be seeing that three

steps forward. Hang in there, you'll be glad you did. Hope you feel

better soon.

Hugs

a

Robyn & Mike Ferrario wrote:

>

> Hi Pris,

>

> I too new to AP to know the difference between a flare and a herheimer

> reaction. When I first started taking the Minocin, there was an obvious

> increase in pain (generalized) and it had a pattern of being worse that

> night and the next day. Over the past week I now have increased pain all

> the time.

>

> I wish I knew also,

> Robyn

>

December 17, 2002

I got mine from Candianmedsusa.com

and they are pelleted. The capsules are colored differently then the

minocin in the states.

Take care,

Ute

December 17, 2002

Dear a,

Thank you so much for writing, the support and information is much

appreciated.

I've been having a rough time for so long (many years) and was doing a

bit better for a couple of weeks, actually sleeping for several hours a

nite for the first time in a long time. Then I started the Minocin. I

feel like I'm perched on a fence, one tiny thing awry and off I fall.

And because of the long period of time feeling like this, I haven't the

same emotional strength and resistance I used to.

I now think that because I added one 50 mg dose last week for a total of

4x/week, it was enough to upset the applecart. I tried the H2O2 again

last night and while I felt nominally improved at the time, it was

short-lived and wakened to pain 2 hours later.

I wonder if you'd mind sharing a " good " Calgary AP doc's name. I think

you did this for me a couple of months ago and unfortunately, I've lost

the name.

Waiting for the 3 steps forward, thanks again,