Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 In a message dated 12/7/02 7:30:08 PM Central Standard Time, terry@... writes: > adapt to the proximal bypass ok some one explain the distal / promimal thing one more time i promise LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 Dear Martha, Thanks for sharing your story with me. Thanks also for explaining in detail what happened with your first surgery. There is a part of me that is frightened about gaining my weight back at some point in time. Of course, I'm still in the 'honeymoon' phase/stage, losing weight fairly quickly and consistently. After reading your story, I do have to wonder if I will be one of the proximal failures, you know...? I started out life slender and stayed slender until the third - fourth year of my marriage when I gradually began to gain weight. Each year out saw me heavier while losing with each pregnancy, only to regain the weight and then some. I worry about losing the weight with my proximal RNY and then gradually gaining it back again. At those times, I try to encourage myself with my recent success of losing 60 pounds in three months. But what about the future...? I don't think I'd ever go down that path again but I didn't think I'd ever have weighed 351.2 pounds before surgery, either. I don't sound very hopeful, do I....? I'm discounting the " God factor " in my life as well. I have a strong faith in God and I really do believe that He holds the plans for my future in the palm of His hand. I guess my 'part' of the equation is prayer, faithfulness in my protein supplements and vites and a good exercise program. Thanks again for sharing, Martha. I appreciate your candor. Love, Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 Those were good points, Terry. Thanks for reminding me (us) that we do come in all different shapes and sizes. I'm looking forward to being a smaller version of me. ::Hugs:: Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 And because of people like Martha telling her story, other people will realize that a weight gain after a proximal surgery isn't necessarily a personal failure, some of us just adapt to the proximal bypass and our bodies find ways to overcome it. We've all been taught for so long that it's our fault, we east too much, etc. If we can have this surgery and STILL manage to gain weight after time, that's cold, hard proof that there's something seriously wrong with our bodies. ------------------------------------------------ Terry Mayers 5DollarHosting.comR http://www.5dollarhosting.com (877)-838-HOST / .... because it shouldn't cost a fortune to make a fortune! R Dr Ohs Patients Trace, I let people know my experience with Proximal RNYs to let them know there are some of us who have such efficient bodies that we need to have a distal surgery to get and keep the weight off. Also back in 1983 there was not as good a support system or the nutritional advice available today. So whether you are a proximal or a distal, you still have to work the program so it works for you. And as has been stated recently, there are reasons for some people to have distal revisions, regain, mechanical problems, stopped losing to be a few. But distals have to take better care to get all their nutrition via supplements and proteins for the most part. For me I can live with that choice to have my health back. My past experience is as follows: Yes, I did have a proximal RNY in 1983 and went from 320 pounds down to 145 pounds in a little over a year. Unfortunately I did regain all of it plus 7 pounds over 18 or so years. The first RNY I had was very proximal, only 5 " bypassed. I had trouble from the get go eating meat proteins and raw veggies. I puked for 18 years. And I didn't know how to get it fixed. I thought it was normal for the surgery. The only thing I could digest was refined carbs and soft foods like bread, potatoes, etc. Plus there was no support team. I saw my surgeon once after surgery, no follow-up, no counseling, nada. I never had complete blood work. When I started gaining it back, I just got frustrated as I only stayed at 145 for about 6 months. Within 2 years I was back over 200 and within 10 years, I was up to 250 and in the last 10 years climbed back to 327. I thought I was a failure. And was not a proponent of the surgery as it didn't work for me. Then 1 1/2 years ago after trying everything for years to get some of the weight off, I went to a local doctor who does RNY and she just told me I was a failure and she could not fix it. I felt suicidal after that confrontation she had been so cold and uncaring. But her dietician had given me the website for vitalady. I had done the fasting programs 3 times and knew I could get the weight off with them and figured I had to live on liquids only for the rest of my life. But I didn't know what to order so I called the number and Michele answered the phone. We talked for about an hour and she told me that it probably wasn't my fault that it was mechanical and I just needed to find the right doctor and the right procedure for my body. I didn't even realize a revision was a possibility until talking to Michele. Thus my journey began a year ago. I flew up to Dr Oh for an endoscopy. He said I was just too proximal. So he did a distal revision. I can now eat anything including steak, chicken, raw veggies, etc. I do very little white carbs and drink 5 proteins and take my supplements faithfully. I actually eat about as much volume now after surgery as I did prior to my revision. I had not been a volume eater in those 18 years. But I did eat a lot of sugars and grazed which I don't do now. I eat foods now that will help me to lose and keep it off. I try to avoid milk and sugar and too many carbs. And I do exercise. I haven't puked once since Dr Oh fixed me. That's my story. Thanks for asking. Martha H Hill Ca RNY Proximal 1983 320/145 RNY Distal Revision 11/29/01 327/180/130? 5'4 " Dr Oh Tacoma Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 It's OK, it's canned. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Dr Ohs Patients In a message dated 12/7/02 7:30:08 PM Central Standard Time, terry@... writes: > adapt to the proximal bypass ok some one explain the distal / promimal thing one more time i promise LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Dear Jeanne, Thanks for the encouragement! ::Big Hugs:: I appreciate you and your thoughtful responses. I want to say way to go on your weight loss as well! You've lost over EIGHTY pounds! That is completely awesome! You've lost my Tess Frances, LOL, and you're working on my Chloe . Merry Christmas, my friend. Love, Trace in Va. Beach, VA Dr. Schechner, Va. Beach, VA Open RNY -- 9/5/02 Height -- 5' 9 1/2 " Starting weight -- 351.2 Current weight -- 292 Minus -- 59 pounds gone! Gal. 2:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Martha - Thanks for sharing your story. I'm so happy that you got with Dr. Oh and he was able to fix you. It truly shows that God works in mysterious ways. Here you were feeling suicidal after seeing that uncaring wench of a doctor, but that one little tip to Vitalady made all the difference in the world. Wonderful story. Take care. Jeanne in WI Age 39 Open RNY 05/21/2002 314/ 233/150-175 5' 8 " djgraves@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Trace - I would like to encourage you by saying that I think it will help you to maintain your weight loss because much of your weight gain had to do with your pregnancies. You said you weren't really heavy before then, so I would be really surprised if your body is one of those that figures out how to get around the bypass and make you gain. You were thin for much longer in your life than you were heavy. Your body is gonna be so happy being thin again that I believe it will stay there. Hope this helps a bit. Keep up the good work. Jeanne in WI Age 39 Open RNY 05/21/2002 314/ 233/150-175 5' 8 " djgraves@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Distal means far away from meaning that a lot of the intestine is bypassed. More malabsorption making it easier to lose weight and more difficult to get any nutrition so you have to be very diligent with supplements, both protein and vitamins. Proximal means near to, so less intestine is bypassed. Ask your surgeon how much they usually bypass or specifically for you how much will be bypassed or was? Jeanne in WI Age 39 Open RNY 05/21/2002 314/ 233/150-175 5' 8 " djgraves@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 You already are a smaller version or you. And getting smaller every day. ------------------------------------------------ Terry Mayers 5DollarHosting.comR http://www.5dollarhosting.com (877)-838-HOST / .... because it shouldn't cost a fortune to make a fortune! R Re: Dr Ohs Patients Those were good points, Terry. Thanks for reminding me (us) that we do come in all different shapes and sizes. I'm looking forward to being a smaller version of me. ::Hugs:: Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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