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I had UPPP surgery for my sleep apnea. I was told I wasn't a good candidate

for a CPAP because of enlarged nasal turbinates. The surgery certainly

worked (after all, they cut 5 pounds of meat out of the back of my throat),

but the recovery was the most painful, awful thing I've ever been through

in my life. The pain was so bad that I had to have a HOME morphine PCA

pump. Of course now the opening in the back of my throat is big enough that

I could swallow a canteloupe whole, so maybe I could have a career in the

circus.

Steve

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UPPP=Uvulopalatopharyngoplasty. It's where they remove your uvula, part of

your soft palate, and other tissue at the back of the throat. In my case,

they also had to take my tonsils and adenoids, which meant they had to use

the old-fashioned scalpel instead of a laser. It was horrible. Of course,

the surgeon was pretty upfront about it--he told me " get ready for the worst

month of your life " .

Steve

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> How awful for you. What is UPPP surgery?

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I am so sorry to hear about that, but am glad that the surgery was helpful to

you. I guess I had no idea of the extent to which sleep apnea could be

debilitating. I just got two videos and a manual on sleep apnea from Dennis

(the sleep lab tech) to go over this weekend. Your experience has made me want

to become more aware of this problem.

Again, to all of you with sleep apnea, I apologize if I seemed to take it

lightly, as it was not my intention. Steve, it appears that I probably won't

need surgery to insert large things in my mouth, " my foot made it through with

very little difficulty. "

>>> steven.parsons@... 03/10/00 08:21AM >>>

UPPP=Uvulopalatopharyngoplasty. It's where they remove your uvula, part of

your soft palate, and other tissue at the back of the throat. In my case,

they also had to take my tonsils and adenoids, which meant they had to use

the old-fashioned scalpel instead of a laser. It was horrible. Of course,

the surgeon was pretty upfront about it--he told me " get ready for the worst

month of your life " .

Steve

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> How awful for you. What is UPPP surgery?

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:-) I'm picturing swallowing a whole cantaloupe into a MGB stomach!

> I had UPPP surgery for my sleep apnea. I was told I wasn't a good

candidate

> for a CPAP because of enlarged nasal turbinates. The surgery

certainly

> worked (after all, they cut 5 pounds of meat out of the back of my

throat),

> but the recovery was the most painful, awful thing I've ever been

through

> in my life. The pain was so bad that I had to have a HOME morphine

PCA

> pump. Of course now the opening in the back of my throat is big

enough that

> I could swallow a canteloupe whole, so maybe I could have a career

in the

> circus.

>

> Steve

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I had thought about having a UPPP also. But I am very squeamish about

somebody messing around in my mouth like that. And I had heard of several

patients having problems with dysphagia after the procedure. I guess now

they have some sort of laser surgery where they go in and cause scarring,

thus lifting the tissues away from the back of the throat, but knowing my

luck, it would cause my throat to close completely.:-( Are you not able to

breath out of your nose? I know myself when my allergies are acting up or

if I have a cold, I have to be very careful....especially when I sleep

because I might take a decongestant and have my nose open when I fall asleep

and then having it close up in the night and wake up choking. I have had

many times this winter when I've woke up with my sinuses just burning like

fire because I'd had a cold and the air was so dry. I have to watch the

humidity level in my bedroom like a hawk. It's getting to be a real pain,

I'd just like to get rid of the whole thing.

fg

At 08:09 AM 03/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:

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>

>I had UPPP surgery for my sleep apnea. I was told I wasn't a good candidate

>for a CPAP because of enlarged nasal turbinates. The surgery certainly

>worked (after all, they cut 5 pounds of meat out of the back of my throat),

>but the recovery was the most painful, awful thing I've ever been through

>in my life. The pain was so bad that I had to have a HOME morphine PCA

>pump. Of course now the opening in the back of my throat is big enough that

>I could swallow a canteloupe whole, so maybe I could have a career in the

>circus.

>

>Steve

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I had thought about having a UPPP also. But I am very squeamish about

somebody messing around in my mouth like that. And I had heard of several

patients having problems with dysphagia after the procedure. I guess now

they have some sort of laser surgery where they go in and cause scarring,

thus lifting the tissues away from the back of the throat, but knowing my

luck, it would cause my throat to close completely.:-( Are you not able to

breath out of your nose? I know myself when my allergies are acting up or

if I have a cold, I have to be very careful....especially when I sleep

because I might take a decongestant and have my nose open when I fall asleep

and then having it close up in the night and wake up choking. I have had

many times this winter when I've woke up with my sinuses just burning like

fire because I'd had a cold and the air was so dry. I have to watch the

humidity level in my bedroom like a hawk. It's getting to be a real pain,

I'd just like to get rid of the whole thing.

fg

At 08:09 AM 03/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>I had UPPP surgery for my sleep apnea. I was told I wasn't a good candidate

>for a CPAP because of enlarged nasal turbinates. The surgery certainly

>worked (after all, they cut 5 pounds of meat out of the back of my throat),

>but the recovery was the most painful, awful thing I've ever been through

>in my life. The pain was so bad that I had to have a HOME morphine PCA

>pump. Of course now the opening in the back of my throat is big enough that

>I could swallow a canteloupe whole, so maybe I could have a career in the

>circus.

>

>Steve

>

>

>

>

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LOL ! :-) I didn't think you were taking things lightly at all.

In fact, before I was diagnosed, I thought that sleep apnea was the

" diagnosis of the 90's " . When I read the article about it and realized I

was reading my own biography, I was shocked. It's like some people don't

understand fibromyalgia.....until they have it. It's human nature. Most

people who are not fat do not understand obesity (with one of the exceptions

being our own adored Dr R). I pray they find that your are free of it, or

at the very least, that you are mildly apneic at night. Sometimes with mild

sleep apnea, you can be fitted with a mouthpiece to wear at night to keep

structures in a position that keeps the airway open at night. Even breathe

right nose strips are supposed to work on some people, but mine is too

severe to have something like that help me. Good luck to you, when are you

having your test??

fg

At 08:57 AM 03/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>I am so sorry to hear about that, but am glad that the surgery was helpful

to you. I guess I had no idea of the extent to which sleep apnea could be

debilitating. I just got two videos and a manual on sleep apnea from Dennis

(the sleep lab tech) to go over this weekend. Your experience has made me

want to become more aware of this problem.

>

>Again, to all of you with sleep apnea, I apologize if I seemed to take it

lightly, as it was not my intention. Steve, it appears that I probably

won't need surgery to insert large things in my mouth, " my foot made it

through with very little difficulty. "

>

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LOL ! :-) I didn't think you were taking things lightly at all.

In fact, before I was diagnosed, I thought that sleep apnea was the

" diagnosis of the 90's " . When I read the article about it and realized I

was reading my own biography, I was shocked. It's like some people don't

understand fibromyalgia.....until they have it. It's human nature. Most

people who are not fat do not understand obesity (with one of the exceptions

being our own adored Dr R). I pray they find that your are free of it, or

at the very least, that you are mildly apneic at night. Sometimes with mild

sleep apnea, you can be fitted with a mouthpiece to wear at night to keep

structures in a position that keeps the airway open at night. Even breathe

right nose strips are supposed to work on some people, but mine is too

severe to have something like that help me. Good luck to you, when are you

having your test??

fg

At 08:57 AM 03/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>I am so sorry to hear about that, but am glad that the surgery was helpful

to you. I guess I had no idea of the extent to which sleep apnea could be

debilitating. I just got two videos and a manual on sleep apnea from Dennis

(the sleep lab tech) to go over this weekend. Your experience has made me

want to become more aware of this problem.

>

>Again, to all of you with sleep apnea, I apologize if I seemed to take it

lightly, as it was not my intention. Steve, it appears that I probably

won't need surgery to insert large things in my mouth, " my foot made it

through with very little difficulty. "

>

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<<my hubby calls

me frankenbutt >>

LOL, I have one of those too, but it's from a pilonidal cyst removal

instead.

Steve

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> >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:00:46 EST

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> ><< I have to ask, was it really 5 pounds of flesh?? >>

> >

> >Probably not, that's just the way I like to describe it :)

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Jerry,

I, too, had some very high number of sleep stoppages during my sleep study (Titration). I use a CPAP with a nose-mouth mask. It did take some time to get used to it, but I was determined to master it and I did. I no longer "nod off" every time I sit down to watch TV, sleep thru football and basketball games or while carrying on conversations with friends. I wouldn't dream of going to bed at night without "the machine." Tell your brother to give it a try and don't give up. The results will be amazing!

Barbara Pond in VA

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I just had my first consultation with my oral surgeon. My ortho had

recommended upper/lower jaw surgery (Le Fort I with 3 segments and a

BSSO) and the surgeon concurred, as I have an overbite, with a

receding jaw. During our meeting, he asked me if I snored. Which I

do and it has gotten worse in the past couple of years,

unfortunately. The surgeon then went on to talk more about health

implications of sleep apnea, etc. Almost as if I was there for that

health problem! :)

Anyways, I realized that possibly he was going into detail about this

for insurance reasons and that it would be more readily covered, as

opposed to having jaw surgery for an overbite or misaligned jaw.

Has anyone else gone this " route " to get insurance coverage?

According to my surgeon, sleep apnea is a very serious health concern

which may be why insurance companies are more willing to cover this

procedure. So, I'm wondering if he's going to submit his letter to

the insurance company, saying it's necessary to have these surgeries

to help with that, rather than fix my bite.

If it helps with my snoring, then I'm all for it! :)

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Vivian

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Insurance only covers these masks if you have dry eyes?!?! Why?

Also, as I am now scheduled for 3/31 for my sleep study, I forgot to ask ... do they give you something to help you sleep if you are having trouble falling asleep? ... I seriously doubt I would have trouble, but just in case ...

Thanks to anyone who wants to answer!,

Joan

P.S. I forgot to increase my font size on the last few posts ... sorry.

I use a bipap which I find more comfortable. I also use a "Mirage"mask--it's designed not to let any air out -- I have to have a full face mask because of a deviated septum, and I have to have the special mask because I have super dry eyes from the secondary Sjogren's. See if you can get a catalogue from your oxygen provider. That mask also is super comfy and stays put, plus if you have dry eyes insurance covers it at 100%.Hope that helps.I having major problems with it again myself. I just got a new cpap mask, I think it'll start helping soon. I just have to adjust it so that when I roll over, it doesn't shift off my face. It's so much better than the last one-- which I'd stuck with for the last 4 years. Sleep apnea is tested by an overnight stay in a sleep center, wired to electrodes that measure eye movement, limb movement, tooth grinding, etc. It really is amazing to find out that you wake yourself up hundreds of times a night because your soft palate collapses over the airpipe, and you startle yourself awake because you aren't breathing. The fix is so simple too. Make these idiots test you. hugs, me

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Joan, it must vary from facility to facility. At my hospital they do provide a sleeper if you need it, usually Ambien. Rose

Re: sleep apnea

Joan they do not give you anything to fall asleep if you have trouble.

You take the meds with you that you take at night when you are at home.

Sharon

Insurance only covers these masks if you have dry eyes?!?! Why?

Also, as I am now scheduled for 3/31 for my sleep study, I forgot to ask ... do they give you something to help you sleep if you are having trouble falling asleep? ... I seriously doubt I would have trouble, but just in case ...

Thanks to anyone who wants to answer!,

Joan

P.S. I forgot to increase my font size on the last few posts ... sorry.

I use a bipap which I find more comfortable. I also use a "Mirage"mask--it's designed not to let any air out -- I have to have a full face mask because of a deviated septum, and I have to have the special mask because I have super dry eyes from the secondary Sjogren's. See if you can get a catalogue from your oxygen provider. That mask also is super comfy and stays put, plus if you have dry eyes insurance covers it at 100%.Hope that helps.I having major problems with it again myself. I just got a new cpap mask, I think it'll start helping soon. I just have to adjust it so that when I roll over, it doesn't shift off my face. It's so much better than the last one-- which I'd stuck with for the last 4 years. Sleep apnea is tested by an overnight stay in a sleep center, wired to electrodes that measure eye movement, limb movement, tooth grinding, etc. It really is amazing to find out that you wake yourself up hundreds of times a night because your soft palate collapses over the airpipe, and you startle yourself awake because you aren't breathing. The fix is so simple too. Make these idiots test you. hugs, me

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