Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 " It is also used to lower cholesterol. " That is the the PRIMARY function of this drug. Every drug has a number of conditions for which it is approved for. " Foogy brain " (I would love to hear the actual medical term for this) is not a condtion listed for use with Cholestyramine - it was not approved for this. Therefore, there is no data supporting its use or effectiveness in this regard. ----Original Message Follows---- From: & quot;hwpiatek & quot; & lt;hank@... & gt; rheumatic Subject: rheumatic Re: Foggy Brain Symptoms Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:04:36 -0000 & gt; For weeks now, I can not concentrate & gt; on anything. I start something and can't finish it. I don't & gt; comprehend books I am reading. I just want to lay around and do & gt; nothing but cry. Then someone mentioned to me about her Fibro and & gt; foggy brain. *************************************** Ask your DR to try Cholestyramine. You will know, after the first dose, if it works or not. This is the first time I got immediate and spectacular results from a drug in a long time! I took it in the evening and woke up clear- headed. I have had this & quot;brain fog and fatigue & quot; for months (Year?) and it was gone. The theory: toxins from & quot;PA or PA Drugs- Sulfasalazine? & quot; circulate thru liver, bile, intestines, and back to liver. Cholestyramine breaks the loop. When the toxins which are fat soluble reach the colon (I think that's where this happens), they both are immediately sucked back and the fat recycled along with the toxins, as the body conserves in this manner. When we take the cholestyramine, it is a resin that captures the toxins and they are excreted because in this resin, they are forced out of the body. Cholestyramine (a prescription drug) never enters the body and is quite safe and cheap. It is also used to lower cholesterol. I take it once a week. H _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 A drug that has been approved for one application can be used for another without prior approval - and this happens everyday. Cholestyramine (Questran - brand name) is being used very effectively to remove neuro toxins. Check out the work of Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, author of Desperation Medicine. His website is www.chronicneurotoxins.com. Cholestyramine may not be effective in all cases. Dr. Kane has also developed a protocol to deal with neuro toxins. Another example of an approved drug being used in another application is in the new Marshall protocol where they are using Benicar (a blood pressure lowering drug) to reduce inflammation. Ethel rheumatic Re: Foggy Brain Symptoms > Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:04:36 -0000 > > > & gt; For weeks now, I can not concentrate > & gt; on anything. I start something and can't finish it. I don't > & gt; comprehend books I am reading. I just want to lay around and do > & gt; nothing but cry. Then someone mentioned to me about her Fibro and > & gt; foggy brain. > > *************************************** > > Ask your DR to try Cholestyramine. You will know, after the first > dose, if it works or not. > > This is the first time I got immediate and spectacular results from > a drug in a long time! I took it in the evening and woke up clear- > headed. I have had this & quot;brain fog and fatigue & quot; for months > (Year?) > and it was gone. > > The theory: toxins from & quot;PA or PA Drugs- Sulfasalazine? & quot; > circulate > thru liver, bile, intestines, and back to liver. Cholestyramine > breaks the loop. > > When the toxins which are fat soluble reach the colon (I think > that's where this happens), they both are immediately sucked back > and the fat recycled along with the toxins, as the body conserves in > this manner. When we take the cholestyramine, it is a resin that > captures the toxins and they are excreted because in this resin, > they are forced out of the body. > > Cholestyramine (a prescription drug) never enters the body and is > quite safe and cheap. It is also used to lower cholesterol. I take > it once a week. > H > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Interestingly, lots of drugs are now used (and ultimately " approved " ) for things they were not originally approved for, especially most of the " classic " RA drugs. MTX was (is) a cancer chemotherapy agent, Plaquenil (sp?) is for treating malaria, Sulfasalazine for urinary infections and colitis. A pharmacist friend told me that these drugs were discovered to be useful by accident - that people with RA took them for the approved illnesses and noticed their RA felt better. After who knows how many of these reports, they were approved for RA. And that most of these drugs haven't ever undergone the " double blind, clinical trials " to prove their effectiveness in RA, since there was so much " anecdotal " evidence. I don't know if this would happen today.... It would be interesting to know how many drugs are out there which are now used to treat illnesses and conditions for which they were not approved.... Regarding the " foggy brain " , I would be surprised if there's any " medical term " . My oncologist denies this but every chemo survivor I know insists that they have never recovered their clarity of thought - so who's right? It wasn't a problem for me with RA, but if someone says it is for them, I believe them. Regards, Jeffery scott wrote: > " It is also used to lower cholesterol. " That is the the PRIMARY function of >this drug. Every drug has a number of conditions for which it is approved >for. " Foogy brain " (I would love to hear the actual medical term for this) >is not a condtion listed for use with Cholestyramine - it was not approved >for this. Therefore, there is no data supporting its use or effectiveness >in this regard. > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: & quot;hwpiatek & quot; & lt;hank@... & gt; >rheumatic >Subject: rheumatic Re: Foggy Brain Symptoms >Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:04:36 -0000 > > > & gt; For weeks now, I can not concentrate > & gt; on anything. I start something and can't finish it. I don't > & gt; comprehend books I am reading. I just want to lay around and do > & gt; nothing but cry. Then someone mentioned to me about her Fibro and > & gt; foggy brain. > >*************************************** > >Ask your DR to try Cholestyramine. You will know, after the first >dose, if it works or not. > >This is the first time I got immediate and spectacular results from >a drug in a long time! I took it in the evening and woke up clear- >headed. I have had this & quot;brain fog and fatigue & quot; for months >(Year?) >and it was gone. > >The theory: toxins from & quot;PA or PA Drugs- Sulfasalazine? & quot; >circulate >thru liver, bile, intestines, and back to liver. Cholestyramine >breaks the loop. > >When the toxins which are fat soluble reach the colon (I think >that's where this happens), they both are immediately sucked back >and the fat recycled along with the toxins, as the body conserves in >this manner. When we take the cholestyramine, it is a resin that >captures the toxins and they are excreted because in this resin, >they are forced out of the body. > >Cholestyramine (a prescription drug) never enters the body and is >quite safe and cheap. It is also used to lower cholesterol. I take >it once a week. >H > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > >To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Yes, yes....that drugs and treatments are being used for something other than their original purpose is obvious and understood. I'm not making any kind of judgement on whether that's good, bad or otherwise. I only stated a general fact (see " Therefore... " ), which is simply worthwhile to consider when evaluating one's own use of a drug. If one person over the internet articulated their experience with using a drug to address the symptoms of a condition for which the drug was not tested and approved for, I would weigh that perspective accordingly with the volumes of data and information obtained from thorough and reputable research, especially if my own symptoms had not even been diagnosed. Knowing the intended purpose of the drug in this regard would simply be helpful - just seems worthwhile and prudent to me, but then everbody is free to follow their own way of evaluating (or not evaluating) the drugs they put into their own bodies. Foggy brain?? I think its also called being human....who hasn't gone through peroiods when nothing clicks? I don't doubt the symptoms, but the notion that anyone could effectively diagnosis or provide a factual basis for those symptoms is beyond reason. There perhaps a bazillion reasons why someone's ability to focus or comprehend becomes impaired. The stress from excess worry is probably itself more damaging. Jeff ----Original Message Follows---- From: Kolar & lt;pinto@... & gt; rheumatic Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: Foggy Brain Symptoms Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 10:00:01 -0500 Interestingly, lots of drugs are now used (and ultimately & quot;approved & quot;) for things they were not originally approved for, especially most of the & quot;classic & quot; RA drugs. MTX was (is) a cancer chemotherapy agent, Plaquenil (sp?) is for treating malaria, Sulfasalazine for urinary infections and colitis. A pharmacist friend told me that these drugs were discovered to be useful by accident - that people with RA took them for the approved illnesses and noticed their RA felt better. After who knows how many of these reports, they were approved for RA. And that most of these drugs haven't ever undergone the & quot;double blind, clinical trials & quot; to prove their effectiveness in RA, since there was so much & quot;anecdotal & quot; evidence. I don't know if this would happen today.... It would be interesting to know how many drugs are out there which are now used to treat illnesses and conditions for which they were not approved.... Regarding the & quot;foggy brain & quot;, I would be surprised if there's any & quot;medical term & quot;. My oncologist denies this but every chemo survivor I know insists that they have never recovered their clarity of thought - so who's right? It wasn't a problem for me with RA, but if someone says it is for them, I believe them. Regards, Jeffery scott wrote: & gt; & quot;It is also used to lower cholesterol. & quot; That is the the PRIMARY function of & gt;this drug. Every drug has a number of conditions for which it is approved & gt;for. & quot;Foogy brain & quot; (I would love to hear the actual medical term for this) & gt;is not a condtion listed for use with Cholestyramine - it was not approved & gt;for this. Therefore, there is no data supporting its use or effectiveness & gt;in this regard. & gt; & gt;----Original Message Follows---- & gt;From: & amp;quot;hwpiatek & amp;quot; & amp;lt;hank@... & amp;gt; & gt;rheumatic & gt;Subject: rheumatic Re: Foggy Brain Symptoms & gt;Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:04:36 -0000 & gt; & gt; & gt; & amp;gt; For weeks now, I can not concentrate & gt; & amp;gt; on anything. I start something and can't finish it. I don't & gt; & amp;gt; comprehend books I am reading. I just want to lay around and do & gt; & amp;gt; nothing but cry. Then someone mentioned to me about her Fibro and & gt; & amp;gt; foggy brain. & gt; & gt;*************************************** & gt; & gt;Ask your DR to try Cholestyramine. You will know, after the first & gt;dose, if it works or not. & gt; & gt;This is the first time I got immediate and spectacular results from & gt;a drug in a long time! I took it in the evening and woke up clear- & gt;headed. I have had this & amp;quot;brain fog and fatigue & amp;quot; for months & gt;(Year?) & gt;and it was gone. & gt; & gt;The theory: toxins from & amp;quot;PA or PA Drugs- Sulfasalazine? & amp;quot; & gt;circulate & gt;thru liver, bile, intestines, and back to liver. Cholestyramine & gt;breaks the loop. & gt; & gt;When the toxins which are fat soluble reach the colon (I think & gt;that's where this happens), they both are immediately sucked back & gt;and the fat recycled along with the toxins, as the body conserves in & gt;this manner. When we take the cholestyramine, it is a resin that & gt;captures the toxins and they are excreted because in this resin, & gt;they are forced out of the body. & gt; & gt;Cholestyramine (a prescription drug) never enters the body and is & gt;quite safe and cheap. It is also used to lower cholesterol. I take & gt;it once a week. & gt;H & gt; & gt;_________________________________________________________________ & gt;Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! & gt;http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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