Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 on 11/20/04 9:46 AM, DNA at dnalrose@... wrote: > > From what I've read, insulin resistance is the step prior to becoming diabetes > termed Prediabetes. You mean diabetics are no longer insulin resistant? I know they simply do not produce insulin anymore becasue their pancreases are ka-put? But they are no longer insulin RESISTANT??? > With insulin resistance the blood sugar levels are > usually either normal or high. Huh? That sounds like diabetes. WHen I used to be pre-diabetic my sugar would go super high and them slam down to super low (around 50) becasue there was too much insulin in my system, I thought. I guess they call that Redacitve Hypoglycemia, a situation where you are insulin resistant but still go too low becasue you have too much insulin pouring out. > There aren't low levels like most diabetics > experience. Is there someting I am not understanding? (Sorry, I have never been diabetic) I thought that diabetics only go too low when they have taken too much insulin, but are otherwise always too high, even while fasting. I suppose they might still be considered insulin resistant maybe, only they just don't really have anymore of their insulin being produced. Am I correct? You know, I get tired of lableing symptoms with names...but I guess it helps for people to communicate about these things. Just trying to clear up my understanding. Thanks, ~Inga > =============================== > So what is PCOS? > > PCOS stands for polycystoc ovary syndrome, though one does not have to have > the cystic ovaries to have the syndrome. The ovaries produce too much > testosterone which in turn causes the insulin resistance and a host of other > symptoms. The insulin resistance then in turn causes the weight gain. > > ------------------------------ > > How does Metformin EX work in the body? > > ======================================= > > It helps the body deal with the high insulin levels and the breaking down of > carbs. It also helps to lower testosterone levels in those with PCOS. Both > my insulin and tstosterone levels have dropped since on Metformin ER. I also > lost 12 pounds on it. Hypoglycemics get too much insulin poured out. So this should be great for a person awho is hypoglycemic then, right? Or worng? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Ingrid Mager wrote: on 11/20/04 9:46 AM, DNA at dnalrose@... wrote: > > From what I've read, insulin resistance is the step prior to becoming diabetes > termed Prediabetes. You mean diabetics are no longer insulin resistant? I know they simply do not produce insulin anymore becasue their pancreases are ka-put? But they are no longer insulin RESISTANT??? Some are insulinresistant still ad some aren't. > With insulin resistance the blood sugar levels are > usually either normal or high. Huh? That sounds like diabetes. With diabetes, the blood sugar can go extremely low (hypoglycemia) with insulin resistance its either normal or high. When the pancreas burns itsself out over time, then the person becomes diabetic and can have very low and very high blood sugars. WHen I used to be pre-diabetic my sugar would go super high and them slam down to super low (around 50) becasue there was too much insulin in my system, I thought. That sounds a lot like diabetes > There aren't low levels like most diabetics > experience. Is there someting I am not understanding? (Sorry, I have never been diabetic) I thought that diabetics only go too low when they have taken too much insulin, but are otherwise always too high, even while fasting. Diabetic can go low if they haven't eaten enough, did too much exercise, or need more medication. I think you are thinking of Type I, where it type II it starts out as insulin resistance first before turning into fullblown diabetes. My Dad has type II and on oral medication. He experiences both highs and lows i blood sugars. I'm insulin resistant and experience either normal or high blood sugars. I suppose they might still be considered insulin resistant maybe, only they just don't really have anymore of their insulin being produced. Am I correct? Some will always have the insulin problem. You know, I get tired of lableing symptoms with names...but I guess it helps for people to communicate about these things. Just trying to clear up my understanding. Thanks, ~Inga > =============================== > So what is PCOS? > > PCOS stands for polycystoc ovary syndrome, though one does not have to have > the cystic ovaries to have the syndrome. The ovaries produce too much > testosterone which in turn causes the insulin resistance and a host of other > symptoms. The insulin resistance then in turn causes the weight gain. > > ------------------------------ > > How does Metformin EX work in the body? > > ======================================= > > It helps the body deal with the high insulin levels and the breaking down of > carbs. It also helps to lower testosterone levels in those with PCOS. Both > my insulin and tstosterone levels have dropped since on Metformin ER. I also > lost 12 pounds on it. Hypoglycemics get too much insulin poured out. So this should be great for a person awho is hypoglycemic then, right? Or worng? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 From: Ingrid Mager >>>If I were to take metformin,(Glucophage, I found out) would it have a tendancy to lower my blood sugar, or does it work simply on efficient cell metabolism? .......I found the stuff at an online pharmacy, but have a feeling it is not for me. Any comments? I love what I am hearing about it taking away sugar cravings and making one lose weight.>>>> I'd like to know more about this metformin too. Got a link? Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Type II Diabetes involves what happens when the pancreas still produces some insulin. This is the second event after insulin resistance, but it doesn't mean that they are no longer insulin resistant. This is the #1 main problem. This is also why low thyroid or cellular resistance to thyroid is very closely akin to it, as many types of cellular receptors become insensitive to the substance that they take up into the cell. I'm thinking that it's the beta receptors involved with diabetes. Their sugar can't get into the cells where it belongs, plus whatever insulin is put out by the pancreas goes " nowhere " because it can't put the sugar where it belongs. Therefore, each succeeding meal causes more outpouring of insulin AND a high blood sugar before that, that can't be taken care of properly. This is why they go back and forth between hypoglycemia and extremely high blood sugar levels, and it is so hard to control, in some cases. The diet helps, as the insulin will respond more to non protein substances (bad carbs). Insulin gone wild creates a bad situation, as does all that sugar that can't be done away with. It's a very delicate balance. The good carbs distribute more slowly in the blood stream, and small protein feedings help keep it under control. It's more complicated than that, and is sometimes hard to understand what the differences are between a cellular situation and a pancreas that will no longer produce any insulin (Type I Diabetes). Re: *Insulin resistance > > on 11/20/04 9:46 AM, DNA at dnalrose@... wrote: > > > > > From what I've read, insulin resistance is the step prior to becoming diabetes > > termed Prediabetes. > > > You mean diabetics are no longer insulin resistant? I know they simply do > not produce insulin anymore becasue their pancreases are ka-put? But they > are no longer insulin RESISTANT??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 OKAY...WELL....I GUESS THAT WOULD BE OKAY when I am EATING A LOT OF CARBS, BUT IF I AM eating a low carb diet that could put me down pretty low. Are you a reactive hypoglycemic as well as insulin resistant? I'm REALLY trying to figure this out...LOL...thanks all. I don't feel much difference between 0 grains armour and 3 1/2 grains, except that with thyroid I get periods, without thyroid, they stop abruptly...so I at least now that I need it. My temps are about 97.6 most of the time, but my Amalgam Illness manual says that merdury toxic people tend to have temps of about 97.5 Soooo......how to I figure by temps? My pulse has NEVER been low in my lfe that I know about. After I eat, my temps ten to go to 98.6 or a little higher sometimes. ~inga > If you go on metformin, you want the extended release version as the regular > version can cause a lot of gastric upset. It will lower your blood sugars, but > not by an extreme amount. Mine went down about 12 points and I lost 12 pounds. > My insulin and testosterone levels went down slightly as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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