Intravenous Vitamin C

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The website http://www.doctoryourself.com has loads of information about

intravenous vitamin C and how to get your family physician to do it for

you. There's also information on obtaining the legal documents to ensure

that you get intravenous vitamin C if you're ever hospitalized.

E.

> Regarding intravenous vitamin C, where would one have this done? Is this

> a common procedure used by mainstream doctors, or do we have to talk our

> AP doctor into doing it?

>

> Ellen

> Re: rheumatic prodigal one returns

>

>

>

> > You are possibly dealing with a virus and in that case large doses of

> > intravenous vitamin C should be tried.

>

> Ethel, It boggles my mind that you recognized that with me telling you

> so

> little of what has been going on. I have indeed been battling a

> recurring

> flu-like illness for going-on two years now. It seems to defy building

> up

> resistance to it, or it is very good at mutating. It really comes with a

> lot

> of joint aching and muscle aches too...not just for me, but for everyone

> I

> know who has caught it.

>

> It has both a respiratory component and attacks the GI system too. I

> have

> had so much trouble with the GI issues, that I have had to virtually go

> off

> minocin altogether as my stomach and intestines won't handle it. That

> sent

> me into an ever-worsening flare. I have had times in the past year when

> I

> could not walk for a good part of the day, and had to get around the

> house

> with a desk chair.

>

> It causes some real out-of-control inflammation, in different areas

> every

> time it comes back on me. Right now it is attacking half of my left

> hand,

> but has variously hit me in the back, hips and knees also. I had to go

> back

> on poisonous prednisone and NSAIDS in order to get out of bed and take

> care

> of my family, and that, of course, is just wreaking more havoc in the

> long

> term, but I could not abandon my babies and had to keep going.

>

> Ethel, everything you suggested rings true with what my heart is telling

> me

> to do. I have already started as much of it as I can with what I have

> on

> hand, and some topical herbal treatment my doctor suggested. Also

> golden

> seal, as East Of Eden says it is good for circulation, and it seems to

> take

> a little of the punch out of this virus. I am taking slippery elm and

> wild

> yam to try and get my guts to quiet down. It feels as if I have

> colitis,

> and my stomach is very sensitive too.

>

> The specialists who treated me in hospital (vascular surgeon and

> orthopedic

> surgeon with hand specialty) want me to go to the rheumatology clinic at

> UCSF, and I will probably go to take advantage of the testing I know

> they

> will do, but it seems insane to me to take immunosupressants in light of

> what I have been going through. I've restarted minocin again

> recently....please, all of you, pray for me that I can tolerate it this

> time. PS Thanks also for the suggestions, Ray.....you may be interested

> to

> know that the vascular surgeon told me that HBOT is believed by some to

> help

> with this. I also have bromelain, so will try that again too.

>

> They did an echocardiogram & arteriogram in hospital. There was no

> evidence

> of clots floating around, and my arteries, at least the part they looked

> at,

> seem clear of atherosclerosis, and my cholesterol is fine. I guess all

> that fish oil and veggies is paying off. Something is just causing the

> blood vessels to spasm, or there may be some kind of collagen

> buildup-related blockage. They were not able to say for sure which.

> They

> don't think it is vasculitis, as my sed rate was not that high. I have

> been

> getting scores of nodules this past summer, and one is contributing to

> this

> by pressing on a nerve and small artery in the finger, but there is

> nothing

> they can do like surgery or injection, the ortho said, until the finger

> has

> a healthy blood flow again.

>

> The good side of this is that I may be getting to go to a pain

> specialist

> now, which we have been trying to get me taken on by for some time. On

> my

> government health coverage that is a miracle if it really happens.

> Guess I

> am a more interesting case now, LOL.

>

> The really spirit-killing thing for me now, is that the only thing that

> has

> been keeping my sanity together through all this is that a year ago I

> decided to take up being a working entertainer again after many years

> away

> from the profession, and playing the piano and singing is my main

> refuge/distraction from the pain and sickness. I can't play with a numb

> finger, or if I lose the finger (which is a real possibility). So I

> have a

> lot of despair and anger at this situation. Please pray for me. It is

> so

> hard for me right now being dead-broke and unable to work and not

> getting

> enough help from my family. DH is in massive denial. What I wouldn't

> give

> right now for a husband like Ethel's and a way to see a real AP doc like

> Dr

> Franco!!! The kids are doing well in spite of it all but I worry about

> them.

> My blood pressure is high (normally below average), and I somehow lost

> over

> 20 pounds this summer without noticing. I am now down to 103, which is

> too

> thin for me to feel good and have any energy.

>

> Thank you all for being there for me. I have to go now, but if anyone

> has

> any ideas, keep them coming. : )

>

> Love and hugs, Liz G.

>

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> I know from searching the archives that this does not work as a

> chelator, however, our doctor says it is much more effective than

> DMSA! Are there any published articles I can reference which prove

> the point- or does Andy's book cover this.

My book discusses this, and you might find the article

Arch Environ Health. 1994 Jan-Feb;49(1):49-52. Related Articles,

Links

Mercury excretion and intravenous ascorbic acid.

Dirks MJ, DR, Cheraskin E, JA.

Center for Improvement of Human Functioning International, Inc.,

Wichita, Kansas.

We tested the hypothesis that intravenous ascorbic acid increases

urinary excretion of mercury in subjects with low mercury levels from

dental amalgam, food, and other sources. From 89 adult volunteers we

selected 28 subjects with the highest mercury excretions (2 to 14

micrograms/24 h). We administered intravenous infusions of 500 ml

lactated Ringer's solution with and without addition of 750 mg of

ascorbic acid/kg body weight, up to 60 g ascorbic acid. Average mercury

excretion during the 24 h after infusion of ascorbic acid was 4.0 +/-

0.5 micrograms (mean +/- SEM), which was not significantly more than

after infusion of Ringer's solution alone (3.7 +/- 0.5 micrograms).

Lead excretion was similarly unaffected. If ascorbic acid administered

intravenously benefits some persons with suspected adverse reactions to

mercury, the benefit in subjects similar to ours appears unrelated to

short-term enhanced excretion of mercury or lead.

informative. The article itself does discuss checking fecal excretion

as well as urinary excretion and also finding this unchanged even

though that detail didn't make it into the abstract.

>The DAN protocal just

> said there was no concensus for intravenous Vit C.

>

> I could try to find another doctor but in the UK it is v difficult to

> find a doctor who understands the even the basics of autism

> interventions.

Most of the self proclaimed experts in the US don't either.

You need one willing to help, and interested. They don't need to know

it all. You'll have to figure it out anyway regardless of which doctor

you use. Just find an open minded one who won't have a fit if you want

to do it your way.. . . . . . . .

> Going it alone is always an option but a bit daunting.

>

> Thanks

>

> Tina

>

> Hampshire UK