Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Am I just lucky or what? My readings are not high in the am. Nor are they extreamly low since I started taking Lantus in the morning rather than at night. Morning reads are usually between 70 and 95, sometimes 100. I dont usually take my reading til I have been up for a few minutes, do the bathroom thing and let the dogs out. Ruby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 posts, in response to Marilyn A thread a week or so ago indicated that there is confusion about what exactly the dawn effect is, but I understand that it has to do with high morning sugars and being more insulin resistant in the morning. Some folks report that they can stop it by eating something when they first get up, or by waking, eating a bit, and sleeping a bit more, or by eating at bedtime. I think some folks can prevent it by using a long lasting insulin. I can't prevent or stop it, it seems. For me, my sugars rise in the morning, and I can't prevent that no matter what I do. So far I can't make heads or tails about why the rise starts. Sometimes it starts before I wake up, sometimes it starts about 30 minutes after I wake up. Regardless of when it starts, my sugar goes up to 135-145, and then drops back to around 100 by 10:30 AM. The way I currently cope is to simply wait it out, so I don't eat until around 11:00 AM. The net result is that I am down to 2 meals per day, which I guess will cut down on my weight a bit. And my " average " sugar level seems to have dropped by 10-15 points, leaving me in the 90s between meals. > Could someone explain " the dawn effect " for me? I'm so new to this diabetes language, even after taking a class at the hospital, I don't believe it was mentioned. Thanks! > Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 With that creamy stuff in the middle! That's the kind I liked the most, LOL. Sue > > I'm looking for something wonderful happening if you eat > chocolate-coated > donuts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 It was explained to me, if I remember correctly, that the dawn effect is the body's getting ready for the new day, in lay terms, by pumping extra insulin through the body. In " normals " the body automatically corrects for this. In diabetics, it doesn't -- that mechanism simply doesn't work properly, if at all Now, if I have that wrong, someone is certain to correct me, smile. Vicki Dawn Effect > posts, in response to Marilyn > > A thread a week or so ago indicated that there is confusion about what > exactly the dawn effect is, but I understand that it has to do with > high morning sugars and being more insulin resistant in the morning. > Some folks report that they can stop it by eating something when they > first get up, or by waking, eating a bit, and sleeping a bit more, or > by eating at bedtime. I think some folks can prevent it by using a > long lasting insulin. I can't prevent or stop it, it seems. > > For me, my sugars rise in the morning, and I can't prevent that no > matter what I do. So far I can't make heads or tails about why the > rise starts. Sometimes it starts before I wake up, sometimes it starts > about 30 minutes after I wake up. Regardless of when it starts, my > sugar goes up to 135-145, and then drops back to around 100 by 10:30 > AM. > > The way I currently cope is to simply wait it out, so I don't eat > until around 11:00 AM. The net result is that I am down to 2 meals per > day, which I guess will cut down on my weight a bit. And my " average " > sugar level seems to have dropped by 10-15 points, leaving me in the > 90s between meals. > > > > >> Could someone explain " the dawn effect " for me? I'm so new to this > diabetes language, even after taking a class at the hospital, I don't > believe it was mentioned. Thanks! >> Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I think you meant extra sugar, not extra insulin? BGs are usually going up, after all SulaBlue > >> Could someone explain " the dawn effect " for me? I'm so new to this > > diabetes language, even after taking a class at the hospital, I don't > > believe it was mentioned. Thanks! > >> Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 thank you, yes. V. Re: Dawn Effect >I think you meant extra sugar, not extra insulin? BGs are usually going >up, after all > > SulaBlue > > >> >> Could someone explain " the dawn effect " for me? I'm so new to >> >> this >> > diabetes language, even after taking a class at the hospital, I >> > don't >> > believe it was mentioned. Thanks! >> >> Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Vicki - some observations I have noticed over the past few weeks about rising BG fasting numbers. I have found that in my case, which we know is quite " unique " , if I have a low carb/protein snack before bed, my fasting will be a normal 90-100 about 8 hours later. I have to eat right before I go to bed so I don't go low during the night. However, if I eat something high carb, possibly fruit with no protein or a dish of " regular " ice cream, I wake up in about 6 hours with BG between 60 and 70. My thinking is that it is a reactive low to a spike from the carbs earlier. Just my hypothesis and I don't know if it has any basis in truth, but I have tried it a few times and it always seems to come out the same, at least for me. Have only had real ice cream once - it was delicious - since I usually eat the low carb stuff (it's cold and it's creamy). I wonder if anyone else has any thoughts about a correlation like that. As usual YMMV Barb in NH Diabetes caused by Surgery 7.5 mg Glipizide daily Low carb diet/not enough exercise ----- Original Message ----- It was explained to me, if I remember correctly, that the dawn effect is the body's getting ready for the new day, in lay terms, by pumping extra insulin through the body. In " normals " the body automatically corrects for this. In diabetics, it doesn't -- that mechanism simply doesn't work properly, if at all Now, if I have that wrong, someone is certain to correct me, smile. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 At 03:29 PM 7/16/05, Barb Mandel wrote: >Vicki - some observations I have noticed over the past few weeks about >rising BG fasting numbers. I have found that in my case, which we know is >quite " unique " , if I have a low carb/protein snack before bed, my fasting >will be a normal 90-100 about 8 hours later. I have to eat right before I >go to bed so I don't go low during the night. However, if I eat something >high carb, possibly fruit with no protein or a dish of " regular " ice >cream, I wake up in about 6 hours with BG between 60 and 70. My thinking >is that it is a reactive low to a spike from the carbs earlier. Just my >hypothesis and I don't know if it has any basis in truth, but I have tried >it a few times and it always seems to come out the same, at least for me. >Have only had real ice cream once - it was delicious - since I usually eat >the low carb stuff (it's cold and it's creamy). I wonder if anyone else >has any thoughts about a correlation like that. As usual YMMV I'm looking for something wonderful happening if you eat chocolate-coated donuts..... sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Sky wrote: > > I'm looking for something wonderful happening if you eat chocolate-coated > donuts..... LOL! As much as nutrition information and opinion varies from year to year, I somehow doubt we'll EVER hear anything good about chocolate-covered donuts (more's the pity ;@). But I have had good luck with a pre-bed snack of low-carb chocolate covered nuts - protein and fat, no sugar, low carbs, and NO nasty trans fats from the deep fryer. -- el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net) " wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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