Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hi jennifer. I too am having a lot of anger lately. I spent time journaling about it this morning. I find myself I am angry becasue I can't control everything perfectly, the more I try the more I fail. How long have you been here? I just joined yesterday but have been eating hunger and fullness, or attempting it all year, starting with Thin Within. I find there is not many people around me that I can talk to about losing any kind of weight eating just when I am hungry and stopping when I am full, they quite honestly think I am nutty or crazy. So that part makes me kind of angry to, that people just don't get it. Then I tend to think well maybe I am not doing the right thing, etc. So really I don't have the best advice, but would love to hear what others say too as it may help me as well. I think really the big thing for me to continue remembering is that no matter what other people do, if its not for me then I can't obsess about it otherwise I fall and start losing track of what I am doing. So if I focus just one what I am doing and enjoy the company of others regardless of waht they think or do with eating...that helps. sigh Kim Left out of the diet party I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions for dealing with this are much appreciated.~ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hello . I have been left out for various reasons at many different place. Though how did I handle the situation like that. I admit at first I was so angry and hurtful to point I was near end up overeating. However, I didn't and I decide whenever I feel left out from some party or whatever plans were suppose to be fun. I would just get my stuff and walk out. I don't worry about how they feel if they find out that I left early. They can ask why if they want to knows. Otherwise I would keep walk out and not come back again. Eliza > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions for dealing with this are much appreciated. > > ~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Kim, I have been in here at least a year, I am thinking. It's the only place I feel understood! > > Hi jennifer. I too am having a lot of anger lately. I spent time journaling about it this morning. I find myself I am angry becasue I can't control everything perfectly, the more I try the more I fail. How long have you been here? I just joined yesterday but have been eating hunger and fullness, or attempting it all year, starting with Thin Within. > > I find there is not many people around me that I can talk to about losing any kind of weight eating just when I am hungry and stopping when I am full, they quite honestly think I am nutty or crazy. So that part makes me kind of angry to, that people just don't get it. Then I tend to think well maybe I am not doing the right thing, etc. So really I don't have the best advice, but would love to hear what others say too as it may help me as well. I think really the big thing for me to continue remembering is that no matter what other people do, if its not for me then I can't obsess about it otherwise I fall and start losing track of what I am doing. So if I focus just one what I am doing and enjoy the company of others regardless of waht they think or do with eating...that helps. sigh > > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 this reminds me of what my mom used to say to me when I was a kid - " If all your friends were jumping off a bridge, would you jump too? " Another saying that I heard later in life that gives me a smile and re-sets my 'course' is - " All the birds CAN fly in the wrong direction. " IE is all about what is best for YOU. None of us do IE because we 'have' to, we do it because we want to - reacquaint and honor OUR OWN bodies. You don't have to go into 'superior to everyone' mode either, just be happy to gift yourself a more peaceful, and probably healthier, life doing the best you can. And by the way, I and the members here are NOT attending that 'party' so you are hardly alone either ;-) BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions for dealing with this are much appreciated. > > ~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I guess we are in the right place then! I am wanting to get this book. I need to find it, probably Amazon? I have read Thin Within and a few others but this book seems to have some tools that may benefit me as well. Thanks ! look forward t getting to "know" you Kim Re: Left out of the diet party Kim,I have been in here at least a year, I am thinking. It's the only place I feel understood!>> Hi jennifer. I too am having a lot of anger lately. I spent time journaling about it this morning. I find myself I am angry becasue I can't control everything perfectly, the more I try the more I fail. How long have you been here? I just joined yesterday but have been eating hunger and fullness, or attempting it all year, starting with Thin Within.> > I find there is not many people around me that I can talk to about losing any kind of weight eating just when I am hungry and stopping when I am full, they quite honestly think I am nutty or crazy. So that part makes me kind of angry to, that people just don't get it. Then I tend to think well maybe I am not doing the right thing, etc. So really I don't have the best advice, but would love to hear what others say too as it may help me as well. I think really the big thing for me to continue remembering is that no matter what other people do, if its not for me then I can't obsess about it otherwise I fall and start losing track of what I am doing. So if I focus just one what I am doing and enjoy the company of others regardless of waht they think or do with eating...that helps. sigh > > Kim> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Kim it really is a GOOD thing that you can note and feel your anger. Emotional eating is a very usual thing for us all. Its also difficult to find that this can't be overcome or reversed overnight either. That can trigger frustration and more anger too. Keep noting and posting, you are understood and 'heard' here too. I do NOT think you are a bit crazy, only made 'crazy' by unrealistic expectations - from yourself and others. IE offers alternatives to the dance of madness we know as dieting. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Hi jennifer. I too am having a lot of anger lately. I spent time journaling about it this morning. I find myself I am angry becasue I can't control everything perfectly, the more I try the more I fail. How long have you been here? I just joined yesterday but have been eating hunger and fullness, or attempting it all year, starting with Thin Within. > > I find there is not many people around me that I can talk to about losing any kind of weight eating just when I am hungry and stopping when I am full, they quite honestly think I am nutty or crazy. So that part makes me kind of angry to, that people just don't get it. Then I tend to think well maybe I am not doing the right thing, etc. So really I don't have the best advice, but would love to hear what others say too as it may help me as well. I think really the big thing for me to continue remembering is that no matter what other people do, if its not for me then I can't obsess about it otherwise I fall and start losing track of what I am doing. So if I focus just one what I am doing and enjoy the company of others regardless of waht they think or do with eating...that helps. sigh > > Kim > > Left out of the diet party > > > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions for dealing with this are much appreciated. > > ~ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Amazon does have it, including in Kindle version, lol. I have seen it used in bookstores, as well. > > I guess we are in the right place then! I am wanting to get this book. I need to find it, probably Amazon? I have read Thin Within and a few others but this book seems to have some tools that may benefit me as well. Thanks ! look forward t getting to " know " you > Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Katcha, that's why I am here :-) It's just family get-togethers lately the conversations are rotating around dieting/weight loss, and then mom's WLS and now the new year's weight-loss resolutions and...just thankful this is a place safe from dieting! > > this reminds me of what my mom used to say to me when I was a kid - > > " If all your friends were jumping off a bridge, would you jump too? " > > Another saying that I heard later in life that gives me a smile and re-sets my 'course' is - > > " All the birds CAN fly in the wrong direction. " > > IE is all about what is best for YOU. None of us do IE because we 'have' to, we do it because we want to - reacquaint and honor OUR OWN bodies. You don't have to go into 'superior to everyone' mode either, just be happy to gift yourself a more peaceful, and probably healthier, life doing the best you can. And by the way, I and the members here are NOT attending that 'party' so you are hardly alone either ;-) > > BEST to you, Katcha > IEing since March 2007 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Thanks Katcha! I will keep posting as I do have major unrealistic expectations of myself. What has me the most right now is that I lost my weight by eating between hunger and fullness and through this year I have gained nearly 20 pounds of it back more likely due to eating a bit past full each time I ate and then binge eating when i got frustrated or had big circumstances that felt out of my control... Here to do this, Kim Left out of the diet party> > > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions for dealing with this are much appreciated.> > ~> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 It can definitely be lonely to be left out of all the diet conversations.The thing is, as all those people " fall off the wagon " , diet-wise, they will all most likely be suffering with guilt and anger and frustration in silence and alone, thinking there is something wrong with them for not being able to stay on the diet. Yes, they are filled with hope and optimism... but I think we have something better, which is trust and faith in ourselves. When you are feeling lonely or frustrated about all this, come and post to us -- we DO understand! I have not found that ANYONE " out there " believes that you can lose weight by listening to and trusting your body! which is crazy, to think that some outside expert could understand our bodies better than we can. SO I am not sure that trying to explain what you are doing will be a very fulfilling activity. I usually just try to find a different conversation to participate in, or change the topic as soon as I can.I have also been dealing with a lot of anger and frustration about how the second half of 2009, in particular, turned out. I think it's important to work through the anger if you hope to feel better and move forward. It's a GOOD thing to be able to feel and express negative emotions. And by expressing, hopefully, we are not stuffing them down with food. It's really a brave thing to do, to allow yourself to " be " with negative emotions. But if you need to use to food to help yourself get through it... that's ok, too! we all do the very best we can; I truly believe that.good luck!  Thanks Katcha! I will keep posting as I do have major unrealistic expectations of myself. What has me the most right now is that I lost my weight by eating between hunger and fullness and through this year I have gained nearly 20 pounds of it back more likely due to eating a bit past full each time I ate and then binge eating when i got frustrated or had big circumstances that felt out of my control...  Here to do this, Kim  Left out of the diet party> > > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions for dealing with this are much appreciated.> > ~> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I've been surprised that I actually am fine with participating in diet conversations. I listen and ask questions without judgment. I usually just don't add any of my ideas to the question, though, which is fine. I also like to compliment the ladies on how they look right now. It's my small understated contribution to an IE world. Sara > > > > > > Hi jennifer. I too am having a lot of anger lately. I spent time > > journaling about it this morning. I find myself I am angry becasue I can't > > control everything perfectly, the more I try the more I fail. How long have > > you been here? I just joined yesterday but have been eating hunger and > > fullness, or attempting it all year, starting with Thin Within. > > > > > > I find there is not many people around me that I can talk to about losing > > any kind of weight eating just when I am hungry and stopping when I am full, > > they quite honestly think I am nutty or crazy. So that part makes me kind of > > angry to, that people just don't get it. Then I tend to think well maybe I > > am not doing the right thing, etc. So really I don't have the best advice, > > but would love to hear what others say too as it may help me as well. I > > think really the big thing for me to continue remembering is that no matter > > what other people do, if its not for me then I can't obsess about it > > otherwise I fall and start losing track of what I am doing. So if I focus > > just one what I am doing and enjoy the company of others regardless of waht > > they think or do with eating...that helps. sigh > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > Left out of the diet party > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and > > was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the > > main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly > > everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > > > > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so > > I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions > > for dealing with this are much appreciated. > > > > > > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: > > 12/30/09 07:27:00 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 > > 07:27:00 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I agree Sara. I large part of me feels an incredible freedom at this time of year for the first time. I clearly remember(because it wasn't that long ago) that i had such anxiety about which diet to be on, which exercise routine i needed to be doing, which one would work??? Just the other day i was at Panera Bread by myself reading a book and I overheard someone talking incessantly about the new diet she was starting this year. She was going on and on about the number of protein and vegetable portions she needed to eat while staying under her calorie amount. Then she started talking about how these portions needed to be the size of her palm and started comparing her palm to the other girls palm to see if she could eat more less than her - whew - i wanted so badly to tell her she doesn't have to do this to herself. IE has been life changing for me in the relatively short time i've been doing it and i don't miss the diet convos in the least. So happy to be done with them! =) ~ > > > > > > > > Hi jennifer. I too am having a lot of anger lately. I spent time > > > journaling about it this morning. I find myself I am angry becasue I can't > > > control everything perfectly, the more I try the more I fail. How long have > > > you been here? I just joined yesterday but have been eating hunger and > > > fullness, or attempting it all year, starting with Thin Within. > > > > > > > > I find there is not many people around me that I can talk to about losing > > > any kind of weight eating just when I am hungry and stopping when I am full, > > > they quite honestly think I am nutty or crazy. So that part makes me kind of > > > angry to, that people just don't get it. Then I tend to think well maybe I > > > am not doing the right thing, etc. So really I don't have the best advice, > > > but would love to hear what others say too as it may help me as well. I > > > think really the big thing for me to continue remembering is that no matter > > > what other people do, if its not for me then I can't obsess about it > > > otherwise I fall and start losing track of what I am doing. So if I focus > > > just one what I am doing and enjoy the company of others regardless of waht > > > they think or do with eating...that helps. sigh > > > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > Left out of the diet party > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been angry over the last week, as you all probably know, lol, and > > > was talking through my feelings with a friend last night. We hit upon the > > > main reason (other than really being concerned for my mom's health)--nearly > > > everyone I love is having a diet party and I feel left out! > > > > > > > > I figure this time of year I can't be the only one feeling like this, so > > > I thought I would throw it out there for discussion. Also, any suggestions > > > for dealing with this are much appreciated. > > > > > > > > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: > > > 12/30/09 07:27:00 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 12/30/09 > > > 07:27:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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