Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Thank you --I'm a believer in plenty of water--but, it's so easy to " forget " to do this one very health-enhancing thing, even though simple and cheap! I need occasional " pep talks " about this. Carol Lee wrote: > Hi all, > > I just finished a fantastic book called " Your body's many cries for water " > by F. Batmanghelidj M.D. He details how important water is to proper > functioning of the body. I can't even summarize the scientific stuff, > there is too much of it, but he does write about getting enough water (not > coffee, tea, soda, juice, etc.) for the treatment of dizzyness, arthritis, > asthma, stomach and colon problems, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, > obesity, alzheimer's, etc. > > He advocates at least 6-8 8oz glasses a day, I know we've all heard that, > but he really backs it up with references etc. He also advocates > increasing your salt intake along with the water (1/2 tsp p day). He > especially recommends you drink a glass of water 1/2 hr before you eat and > 2 hrs after and before bed for proper digestion and dilution of fats and > cholesterol. Also, drink lots of water before you shower if you get dizzy > or have headaches. He points out that as we get older our thirst > recognition triggers get less effective so most people end up drinking less > water when we should be drinking more! > > Enough preaching, just wanted to share this with you. You can get this > book on amazon.com for $14.95 or maybe your library has it. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > -- /docvault/rosacea-support/?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 Hi there, I know exactly how you feel, ceans are on the lowest end of the food chain when it comes to Medical attention! When I told my physician that I joined a support group, he looked at me and chuckled! Fortunately, he took a step back and actually asked me some questions about the group. He was curious as to what I gained and it actually touched him! I mentioned it was a place to go and discuss different products/treatments/medications and the reactions/success we have. A place to discuss the emotions involved with this horrific disease. And a place to learn that you may not be as bad off as you think, and also a place to learn you've got it the worst! Definitely a place for true support! I remember it had been over a year before this same Physician diagnosed my cea properly, and I was at my wits end! I was feeling the mix of anxiety and depression, because my skin was ruddy, red, & painful! So let's just hope that the Heartless Physicians out there will take notice sometime soon! Kennedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 jim This sounds interesting. What sort of questions did you ask in your telephone screening? Did you actually get to talk to the doctor or just the receptionist? chris No Subject > > > > I just got back from seeing a dermatologist through my HMO, and I am a > > bit irritated. This doctor seemed to belittle my concerns. > > His attitude was that I should stop " focussing on rosacea " . His only > > advice to me was to stop worrying and stop " being such an intense > > person. " What he doesn't understand is that when you are first > > diagnosed with this, you naturally have lots of question. He obviously > > doesn't understand the emotional implications. When I told him I was > > planning on seeing a counsellor for stress mgmt, he basically replied > > " gimme a break; that's overkill " (not his exact words, but it was > > apparent that's what he thought). He was about to write me a > > prescription for tetracycline and metrocream (what I'm already on), but > > I asked him if I could switch to doxycycline and noritate (Thanks to my > > " overly-zealous " research, I knew about these meds.) > > > > Despite all that I've read, he doesn't believe the reports on how > > hydrocortisone causes or aggravates rosacea. When I told him I did > > lots of research online, he shook his head, dismissing it all. Again, > > he called me a highly intense person because of all the research I've > > been doing. > > > > This is the second dermatologist I've seen, and both seem to know > > little more than the basic regime of antibiotics and cream, and neither > > seem to understand or give a hoot how a patient could be emotionally > > upset over this condition. > > > > Am I asking too much in a doctor? Is there a dermatologist that is > > actually caring, understanding and more knowledgeable about rosacea? > > Of course, I've read about Dr. Sy and Dr. Nase, but I have no > > idea where they are. Do I sound like I am being " too intense " and > > expecting too much out of a doctor? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole > group. > > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > > -- /docvault/rosacea-support/?m=1 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole group. > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > -- /vote?listname=rosacea-support & m=1 > > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 In a message dated 3/4/00 7:48:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, Kennedy949@... writes: << I remember it had been over a year before this same Physician diagnosed my cea properly, and I was at my wits end! I was feeling the mix of anxiety and depression, because my skin was ruddy, red, & painful! So let's just hope that the Heartless Physicians out there will take notice sometime soon >> Very well said. Too bad more of the " heartless physicians " would drop by now and then and learn a few things! Marji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 hi Yes, part of the incentives HMO primary care physicians receive is to not refer their patients to specialists. Actually, I just saw on 60 minutes that the attorney who successfully sued the tobacco industry is the same one currently bringing suit against the big name HMO's. Chris No Subject > > > > > > > I just got back from seeing a dermatologist through my HMO, and I am a > > > bit irritated. This doctor seemed to belittle my concerns. > > > His attitude was that I should stop " focussing on rosacea " . His only > > > advice to me was to stop worrying and stop " being such an intense > > > person. " What he doesn't understand is that when you are first > > > diagnosed with this, you naturally have lots of question. He obviously > > > doesn't understand the emotional implications. When I told him I was > > > planning on seeing a counsellor for stress mgmt, he basically replied > > > " gimme a break; that's overkill " (not his exact words, but it was > > > apparent that's what he thought). He was about to write me a > > > prescription for tetracycline and metrocream (what I'm already on), but > > > I asked him if I could switch to doxycycline and noritate (Thanks to my > > > " overly-zealous " research, I knew about these meds.) > > > > > > Despite all that I've read, he doesn't believe the reports on how > > > hydrocortisone causes or aggravates rosacea. When I told him I did > > > lots of research online, he shook his head, dismissing it all. Again, > > > he called me a highly intense person because of all the research I've > > > been doing. > > > > > > This is the second dermatologist I've seen, and both seem to know > > > little more than the basic regime of antibiotics and cream, and neither > > > seem to understand or give a hoot how a patient could be emotionally > > > upset over this condition. > > > > > > Am I asking too much in a doctor? Is there a dermatologist that is > > > actually caring, understanding and more knowledgeable about rosacea? > > > Of course, I've read about Dr. Sy and Dr. Nase, but I have no > > > idea where they are. Do I sound like I am being " too intense " and > > > expecting too much out of a doctor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole > > group. > > > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > > > -- /docvault/rosacea-support/?m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 Jim thanks for the tips. I may use them sometime. C No Subject > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from seeing a dermatologist through my HMO, and I am a > > > > bit irritated. This doctor seemed to belittle my concerns. > > > > His attitude was that I should stop " focussing on rosacea " . His only > > > > advice to me was to stop worrying and stop " being such an intense > > > > person. " What he doesn't understand is that when you are first > > > > diagnosed with this, you naturally have lots of question. He > obviously > > > > doesn't understand the emotional implications. When I told him I was > > > > planning on seeing a counsellor for stress mgmt, he basically replied > > > > " gimme a break; that's overkill " (not his exact words, but it was > > > > apparent that's what he thought). He was about to write me a > > > > prescription for tetracycline and metrocream (what I'm already on), > but > > > > I asked him if I could switch to doxycycline and noritate (Thanks to > my > > > > " overly-zealous " research, I knew about these meds.) > > > > > > > > Despite all that I've read, he doesn't believe the reports on how > > > > hydrocortisone causes or aggravates rosacea. When I told him I did > > > > lots of research online, he shook his head, dismissing it all. Again, > > > > he called me a highly intense person because of all the research I've > > > > been doing. > > > > > > > > This is the second dermatologist I've seen, and both seem to know > > > > little more than the basic regime of antibiotics and cream, and > neither > > > > seem to understand or give a hoot how a patient could be emotionally > > > > upset over this condition. > > > > > > > > Am I asking too much in a doctor? Is there a dermatologist that is > > > > actually caring, understanding and more knowledgeable about rosacea? > > > > Of course, I've read about Dr. Sy and Dr. Nase, but I have no > > > > idea where they are. Do I sound like I am being " too intense " and > > > > expecting too much out of a doctor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole > > > group. > > > > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > > > > -- /docvault/rosacea-support/?m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole > > group. > > > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > > > -- /vote?listname=rosacea-support & m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole > group. > > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > > -- /vote?listname=rosacea-support & m=1 > > > > > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 Carol, Thanks for posting this. Malignant melanoma left untreated can easily spread through the body and kill. Jim Re: No Subject > No! > I have gone to several dermatologists and this " one size fits all " should be " one > size fits no one in particular " !!! A dermatologist must have an open mind and > their concerns should be focused on your concerns!--in a very real sense, they > are YOUR EMPLOYEE....so, I " fired " several, and am now very impressed with > Kodama here in the Tacoma area. This is the same office I've generally gone to > for many years (and now I'm back!) after a neighbor of mine, who had been > basically " blown off " by a couple of dermas she had seen, with great concerns > over a " spot " on her leg, went to Dr Kodama, and voiced her concerns over this > suspicious leg spot--guess what? it was melanoma; surgery was performed and my > neighbor is doing great (funny looking dent in her leg, because the malignancy > turned out to be quite large--but ALIVE and well!) This dermatologist is now > OUR DOCTOR for skin stuff!! > Carol > > " M. Riley " wrote: > > > I just got back from seeing a dermatologist through my HMO, and I am a > > bit irritated. This doctor seemed to belittle my concerns. > > His attitude was that I should stop " focussing on rosacea " . His only > > advice to me was to stop worrying and stop " being such an intense > > person. " What he doesn't understand is that when you are first > > diagnosed with this, you naturally have lots of question. He obviously > > doesn't understand the emotional implications. When I told him I was > > planning on seeing a counsellor for stress mgmt, he basically replied > > " gimme a break; that's overkill " (not his exact words, but it was > > apparent that's what he thought). He was about to write me a > > prescription for tetracycline and metrocream (what I'm already on), but > > I asked him if I could switch to doxycycline and noritate (Thanks to my > > " overly-zealous " research, I knew about these meds.) > > > > Despite all that I've read, he doesn't believe the reports on how > > hydrocortisone causes or aggravates rosacea. When I told him I did > > lots of research online, he shook his head, dismissing it all. Again, > > he called me a highly intense person because of all the research I've > > been doing. > > > > This is the second dermatologist I've seen, and both seem to know > > little more than the basic regime of antibiotics and cream, and neither > > seem to understand or give a hoot how a patient could be emotionally > > upset over this condition. > > > > Am I asking too much in a doctor? Is there a dermatologist that is > > actually caring, understanding and more knowledgeable about rosacea? > > Of course, I've read about Dr. Sy and Dr. Nase, but I have no > > idea where they are. Do I sound like I am being " too intense " and > > expecting too much out of a doctor? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole group. > > > > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > > -- /docvault/rosacea-support/?m=1 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole group. > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > -- /docvault/rosacea-support/?m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 I'll tell you how to get him to go. I manage a major law firm, and one of the attorneys in my office (who is only 34 years old) had a teeny tiny black mole on the side of his knee. His wife kept trying to get him to have it checked, to no avail. Finally, when it started to grow a little, he went. Guess what? Yep. It was melanoma! He was freaked out and had to have major surgery to remove it followed by radiation. All from a tiny mole on the surface (which had spread underneath). Tell your stubborn husband that you love him and a fifteen minute visit to the doctor is worth his life. Cancer knows no age. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2000 Report Share Posted March 14, 2000 Hello, I'm new here and a little confused. I want to know why my derm would prescribe me MetroGel. He says that i have acne vularis and knows that I have had it since i was an adolesent. But since I am now 29 he gives me MetroGel because I am an adult. (He was speaking to me like I was 10 years old at the time). I was coming off of Cleocin T because it was too irritating on my skin. that didn't make sense to me but he had worn out my patience so I didn't push any further. He first prescribe Metrolotion which was to heavy for my oily broken out skin. I contacted Galderma (phrm co.) to find out if it was comedogenic. They said it was, he said they were wrong. He gave me a sample of the gel and a scrip reluctantly. It was much lighter. I can't put a finger on what his problem is other than he copletely minimized my concerns. He hinted that he thought I was vain. So much for HMO's Excuse the rant. I'll get back to my original question. What can Metrogel do for acne vulgaris? .................................................................................\ .. iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? .................................................................................\ .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2000 Report Share Posted March 14, 2000 <There are lots of acne meds out there that could help you more than MetroGel Matija> Yes, I just looked at several medical web sites about Acne Vulgaris and did not see MetroGel as a treatment on any of them. Here is a link to one of the sites: http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/kw/derm/acne/index.htm Jim Re: No Subject > I saw in a magazine or online that some derms are prescribing MetroGel > for adult-onset acne. MetroGel has never reduced my bumps/zits at all. > It just reduced my rosacea redness a bit. I'm surprised that it is > intended for adult acne that is not accompanied by rosacea. > > MetroLotion has mineral oil in it, so that's what probably clogged your > pores. > > Maybe you should pay out of pocket, if you can afford it, to see a derm > in private practice. There are lots of acne meds out there that could > help you more than MetroGel. > Matija > > yinka green wrote: > original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=14 > 074 > > Hello, > > > > I'm new here and a little confused. I want to know why my derm would > > prescribe me MetroGel. He says that i have acne vularis and knows > that I > > have had it since i was an adolesent. But since I am now 29 he gives > me > > MetroGel because I am an adult. (He was speaking to me like I was 10 > years > > old at the time). I was coming off of Cleocin T because it was too > > irritating on my skin. > > > > that didn't make sense to me but he had worn out my patience so I > didn't > > push any further. He first prescribe Metrolotion which was to heavy > for my > > oily broken out skin. I contacted Galderma (phrm co.) to find out if > it was > > comedogenic. They said it was, he said they were wrong. He gave me a > > sample of the gel and a scrip reluctantly. It was much lighter. > > > > I can't put a finger on what his problem is other than he copletely > > minimized my concerns. He hinted that he thought I was vain. So > much for > > HMO's > > > > Excuse the rant. I'll get back to my original question. What can > Metrogel > > do for acne vulgaris? > > > > ..................................................................... > ............ > > iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? > > ..................................................................... > ............ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole group. > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- /ChatPage?listName=rosacea-support & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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