Re: StarPulse and spider viens

February 16, 2000

Hi Joe, I had a treatment with the star pulse laser and it

helped a little, but not very much. It is not the same as

photoderm, which has helped me a great deal.

Meg

" joe calsa " wrote:

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> Hi all, while doing my research on Derms in the Dallas area (I'm

> searching), I narrowed down my choices to three Derms so I requested

> the " finalists " or rather their office to mail me brochures (while I

> check them out via Better Business and other sources...one was

referred

> from this site). Anyway, one brochure speaks highly about the

> " StarPulse-Aesthetic Laser Treatment " . Is this the same as a

> Photoderm? less than a Photoderm? Anyone heard of it? Quotes from the

> brochure regarding spider viens or " cea-Telangiectasia " follow:

>

> " StarPulse is known as the gentle laser. StarPulse is a

> revolutionary technology that treats vessels with a series of laser

> light pulses. These pulses are absorbed into blood cells, causing the

> blood to heat and coagulate. This leaves the blood vessel walls

> unsupported, causing them to collapse. Then, after the treatment

> during the healing process, these vessels dissolve within the body.

> With the vessels gone, the treated area returns to the natural color

of

> your skin " ... " Star Pulse virtually eliminates bruising by gently

> collapsing blood vessels without causing rupture or

February 17, 2000

Hi Meg,

First let me thank you for documenting your photoderm treatment so well. I

am fairly new to the list, but saw from your recent notes that you seem to

be near the end of your treatment cycle. I ran a scan of the archives and

read your photoderm updates back to your treatment #4 post on 10/30/99. They

are extremely thorough.

My symptoms are very similar to yours - blushing and flushing. I was quite

interested when you mentioned that your testing indicated no perspiration. I

also quit sweating when my symptoms became severe 3 years ago. When mine

first flared, my face burned so badly that I would keep the temp in my house

below 65, cover up and lie with the fan about one foot from my face to stop

the burning. I saw about 10 docs, had X-Rays and numerous rounds of testing;

results were all negative. Finally now the condition is somewhat under

control via oral medications and lifestyle modifications on my part.

<<My recovery time has varied and has been different lengths for different

treatments. Some have only been a day or two, and my worst was a week and a

half. I think we all react differently. Good luck with your treatment.>>

One question - have you experienced much " down time " during recovery from

photoderm sessions, i.e., having symptoms so severe that you would be unable

to work, go out shopping, etc? I recall Dr. Nase' remark that he would have

his treatments on Friday, then after a 3-day weekend he was able to go back

to work on Monday. Have you had similar recovery process after treatments?

I'm thinking about visiting Dr. Bitter's clinic myself, but am somewhat

concerned about post-treatment recovery.

Again, thanks for all of the info in your posts.

--Jim

Re: StarPulse and spider viens

February 17, 2000

Joe

Keep us posted, I'd like to know how you make out if you opt to have this

done.

Chris

StarPulse and spider viens

> Hi all, while doing my research on Derms in the Dallas area (I'm

> searching), I narrowed down my choices to three Derms so I requested

> the " finalists " or rather their office to mail me brochures (while I

> check them out via Better Business and other sources...one was referred

> from this site). Anyway, one brochure speaks highly about the

> " StarPulse-Aesthetic Laser Treatment " . Is this the same as a

> Photoderm? less than a Photoderm? Anyone heard of it? Quotes from the

> brochure regarding spider viens or " cea-Telangiectasia " follow:

>

> " StarPulse is known as the gentle laser. StarPulse is a

> revolutionary technology that treats vessels with a series of laser

> light pulses. These pulses are absorbed into blood cells, causing the

> blood to heat and coagulate. This leaves the blood vessel walls

> unsupported, causing them to collapse. Then, after the treatment

> during the healing process, these vessels dissolve within the body.

> With the vessels gone, the treated area returns to the natural color of

> your skin " ... " Star Pulse virtually eliminates bruising by gently

> collapsing blood vessels without causing rupture or

> hemorrhage " --------------------Unquote.

>

> I think I'll go talk to this Derm, but if anyone has any knbowledge on

> this product/remedy, please comment.

>

> Joe Calsa

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February 17, 2000

Hi Jim,

Yes, your experience sounds a lot like mine! Especially having

to keep the house cool and sleep with a fan! My flushing became

so severe that I had to stop working for about 4 months. I had

my first appointment with Dr. Bitter about a month after I left

work, and after 3 months of treatment, I was able to return to work.

I have only had a small amount of occasional flushing now that I

am back to work. Its such a relief! I am determined to go as far

as I need to to try an eradicate the flushing. I am quite good after

9 treatments, but will continue until I am flush free, or I don't see

any results at all. Dr. Bitter believes I will need touch ups every

12 to 18 months once I have stopped my treatments.

Regarding your question on down time. Every treatment has varied for

me. My 3rd and 5th treatments were the worst. I was very swollen for

one to one and a half weeks. Now, its much milder and I can have a

treat-

ment on Friday and go to work on Monday with very mild swelling.

Everyone

reacts differently, though. Some report little to no sweling, while

other

have severe swelling. I find it is sometimes worse when they go close

to

the eyes, so the treatments where I had my eyelids done had more

swelling

then the others.

Hope that helps. Meg

" jim clary " wrote:

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937

> Hi Meg,

>

> First let me thank you for documenting your photoderm treatment so

well. I

> am fairly new to the list, but saw from your recent notes that you

seem to

> be near the end of your treatment cycle. I ran a scan of the archives

and

> read your photoderm updates back to your treatment #4 post on

10/30/99. They

> are extremely thorough.

>

> My symptoms are very similar to yours - blushing and flushing. I was

quite

> interested when you mentioned that your testing indicated no

perspiration. I

> also quit sweating when my symptoms became severe 3 years ago. When

mine

> first flared, my face burned so badly that I would keep the temp in

my house

> below 65, cover up and lie with the fan about one foot from my face

to stop

> the burning. I saw about 10 docs, had X-Rays and numerous rounds of

testing;

> results were all negative. Finally now the condition is somewhat under

> control via oral medications and lifestyle modifications on my part.

>

> <<My recovery time has varied and has been different lengths for

different

> treatments. Some have only been a day or two, and my worst was a week

and a

> half. I think we all react differently. Good luck with your

treatment.>>

>

> One question - have you experienced much " down time " during recovery

from

> photoderm sessions, i.e., having symptoms so severe that you would be

unable

> to work, go out shopping, etc? I recall Dr. Nase' remark that he

would have

> his treatments on Friday, then after a 3-day weekend he was able to

go back

> to work on Monday. Have you had similar recovery process after

treatments?

> I'm thinking about visiting Dr. Bitter's clinic myself, but am

somewhat

> concerned about post-treatment recovery.

> Again, thanks for all of the info in your posts.

> --Jim

>

> Re: StarPulse and spider viens

>

February 18, 2000

Joe,

Is the " Star Pulse " an nd-YAG laser? If so, it ought to be good for " zapping

and

nuking " those capillaries on the face.

Carol

Joe Calsa wrote: